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Lefty SRH
02-24-2013, 11:40 AM
I am tempted to pick up (if I can find it) a can of Accurate 5744 for my heavier .308 (180gr) and 7x57 (170-175gr) loads. What has been your experience with this powder and cast boolits?

sundog
02-24-2013, 11:53 AM
I've run a lot of cast loads through a Rem bolt .308, 12 twist, and to date the best load has been the RCBS 30-180-SP over 5744. Just have to run the speed/pressure up and down for your alloy/loob to find the best charge. I'm sure there are other combinations that just have to be discovered.

5744 is NOT my 'goto' choice on anything else right now, but it does work in a lot of stuff.

Lefty SRH
02-24-2013, 12:01 PM
I've run a lot of cast loads through a Rem bolt .308, 12 twist, and to date the best load has been the RCBS 30-180-SP over 5744. Just have to run the speed/pressure up and down for your alloy/loob to find the best charge. I'm sure there are other combinations that just have to be discovered.

5744 is NOT my 'goto' choice on anything else right now, but it does work in a lot of stuff.

What sort of accuracy have you gotten with that specific boolit and powder. I've been eye-ballin that mold actually....

BruceB
02-24-2013, 12:11 PM
It was amazing to me to discover that my M1A (semi-auto .308) functioned perfectly with 25.0 5744/152-grain 311466, with accuracy of a degree that reliably hit a 14"x16" plate at 417 yards ....iron sights, sitting position, no sling, and witnesses.

To say that I was pleased would be an understatement.

My .416 Rigby (Ruger #1) groups TEN RCBS 416-350s into one inch at 100 yards, driven at 2050 fps by 55.0 5744.

Other rifles have also given me good results with this powder, and I'd hate to be without it.

GabbyM
02-24-2013, 12:34 PM
This thread isn’t very encouraging.

Just purchased an 8# jug of AA5744 a few weeks ago. Now I read here it likes a heavy bullet. Was hoping it would burn well at lower pressures than RL#7 or H-4198 in my 243 AI , 270 Win and 223.

What I see in the Lyamn load manual is 5744 listed as the accuracy load under a #225415 bullet of 55grains in a 223. This being the start load pressure to boot. That’s not a heavy bullet. Guess I’ll find out when I load some up.

ukrifleman
02-24-2013, 12:36 PM
62297

I have found 5744 (or as we know it this side of the pond Lovex DO60) is a very good powder for .30/.32 cal loads.
My standard charge of 25.5gn works well in most of my rifles.

These loads were out of my Model of 1917 Remington
ukrifleman.

sundog
02-24-2013, 12:51 PM
Lefty, are you a southpaw? I am. My rifle is a Rem 700 VS LH with either a Weaver V-series or Tasco V-series mil dot scope (don't remember right now as I moved scopes around awhile back). Nice rifle capable of very fine accuracy with both cast and jacketed (does very well with 125 gr Nosler ballistic tips). The 30-180-SP in that rifle with ~25/5477 does close to MOA out to 200 with 5 shots. Can't ask for more than that, eh? If I spent a little time with it, I think I could shrink it a little more. Good boolit.

I've used the RCBS 30-180-SP for several applications including using it for military bolt matches in 03A3 for years. It is a very capable performer. I recently changed to 314299 for the mil bolt matches with equally fine accuracy.

FWIW, 5744 is a high nitroglycerin content powder.

Lefty SRH
02-24-2013, 12:57 PM
Lefty, are you a southpaw? I am. My rifle is a Rem 700 VS LH with either a Weaver V-series or Tasco V-series mil dot scope (don't remember right now as I moved scopes around awhile back). Nice rifle capable of very fine accuracy with both cast and jacketed (does very well with 125 gr Nosler ballistic tips). The 30-180-SP in that rifle with ~25/5477 does close to MOA out to 200 with 5 shots. Can't ask for more than that, eh? If I spent a little time with it, I think I could shrink it a little more. Good boolit.

I've used the RCBS 30-180-SP for several applications including using it for military bolt matches in 03A3 for years. It is a very capable performer. I recently changed to 314299 for the mil bolt matches with equally fine accuracy.

FWIW, 5744 is a high nitroglycerin content powder.

EXACTLY which mold do you have? I am showing RCBS hakes orhas made 2 molds both numbered 30-180-SP. One of these only has 2 greese grooves, the other has 3 greese grooves. Do you mind posting a pic please.?
Do you have any velocity data?
My plan is to shoot a NOE 311-041 clone out of a LH Ruger GSR with 5744.
I do like the LH Remingtons but never seem to find them when I have the dough. I do have a LH Savage FLP that performs VERY well with the right handload and j-words. I haven't tried cast in it yet.

Lefty SRH
02-24-2013, 12:57 PM
Keep em coming, I'm off to the range!

sundog
02-24-2013, 01:14 PM
2-groove.

Thumbcocker
02-24-2013, 01:15 PM
I have had better luck with 4759.

uscra112
02-24-2013, 05:07 PM
This thread isn’t very encouraging.

Just purchased an 8# jug of AA5744 a few weeks ago. Now I read here it likes a heavy bullet. Was hoping it would burn well at lower pressures than RL#7 or H-4198 in my 243 AI , 270 Win and 223.

What I see in the Lyamn load manual is 5744 listed as the accuracy load under a #225415 bullet of 55grains in a 223. This being the start load pressure to boot. That’s not a heavy bullet. Guess I’ll find out when I load some up.

My experience is that it likes to be 25K psi or above (as calculated by Quickload), just like RL-7. Anything less and it leaves a lot of semi-burned kernels behind, and the S.D.s go up. I did pick it over RL-7 when I was doing a lot with my .35 Rem., using a 211 grain GC boolit, but went to 2400 for plain base boolits from that gun, because with the lower pressures 5744 was leaving too much junk behind. I also tried it in my early experiments with the .25-20SS. Same deal - OK at 25K and above, (j-warts at 1850+ fps), not OK for plain base (1400 fps) boolit loads. Nowadays I burn almost exclusively AA#9 for the 1400 fps loads in everything, from .25-21 Stevens to .357 Max. Although lately I've been messing with Ed Harris' Red Dot loads in a K31. Not using the Remmy these days, due to Ohio hunting law.

CWME
02-24-2013, 05:21 PM
I like 5744 but why is it so much more expensive than other powders? Makes it not so attractive at the checkout line.

mstarling
02-24-2013, 10:44 PM
I use 5744 extensively in large capacity cartridges and cast boolits. Things like the .375 H&H, .416 Aagard (.376/.416 Steyr Improved), .416 Rigby, .458 Acc-Rel, and .470 Nitro Express often do very well with it!

Have done some .308 Win and planning to do more.

Doc Highwall
02-24-2013, 11:11 PM
In my Remington 40X chambered in 7.62 NATO using 19.6 grains of AA5744 with SAECO #315 175gr TCGC and Fed 210M primers my record 5 shot group at 100 and 300 yards is .305" and 1.600".

Having unburned powder in the barrel with great accuracy vs a clean barrel with poor accuracy to me is a no brainer.

quilbilly
02-24-2013, 11:50 PM
My 30/30 loves 5744 as does my 338 WM (both with CB's of course). I have also had good results with 5744 in my 444 but my 6mm does not like it (so far). You just have to try it. The problem is that, at least in this area, 5744 is hard to come by so I always have to be aware of easier to find alternatives.

Lefty SRH
02-25-2013, 09:53 PM
Well I've located some 5744, just have to go pick it up. Hopefully wednesday.

Lefty SRH
02-27-2013, 11:07 PM
I picked it up.....they got me on this pound but I won't be buying anymore from them. I had to $40 and tax for this pound can. Hopefully this stuff works!

TXGunNut
02-28-2013, 12:12 AM
I picked it up.....they got me on this pound but I won't be buying anymore from them. I had to $40 and tax for this pound can. Hopefully this stuff works!

Maybe not, this powder was a bit pricey last summer when I wanted to try it. Wish I could remember the price but pretty sure it was at least $32-35.

Lefty SRH
02-28-2013, 06:23 AM
Everywhere else I checked it was $30 but no stock. This one store is known to have higher prices but I also noticed that he has raised his powder prices atleast $10 across the shelf. PUND INTENDED.

winelover
02-28-2013, 10:24 AM
I recently picked up some 5744, from Powder Valley, for use in my 338 WM and am very happy with the results. Their price was $23 / pound. Had they had it in a 8# jug, it would have been more cost effective. Even though, I still don't think it is overly expensive, especially if it works for the intended purpose. I'm only using 29 grains per load (200 grainer) and getting one hole groups. My notes show that Marshall of Beartooth Bullets, considers this powder as one of the most economical for their 235 gr cast boolet, for this cartridge.

Winelover

Doc Highwall
02-28-2013, 11:43 AM
I am glad I picked up 3 - 8# jugs of it last year. I think thet were $143 each delivered.

TheCelt
02-28-2013, 12:00 PM
My 30/30 loves 5744 as does my 338 WM (both with CB's of course). I have also had good results with 5744 in my 444 but my 6mm does not like it (so far). You just have to try it. The problem is that, at least in this area, 5744 is hard to come by so I always have to be aware of easier to find alternatives.

What is your 338M load???? 338 WM loads are hard to find.....just bought a 250 gr mold but can't find data!