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phil3333
02-19-2013, 11:10 PM
if anybody has tried these I would be interested in hearing how they performed

bear67
02-19-2013, 11:33 PM
I have been loading with them for several years now. Loaded several LP, and SP in revolver and pistol calibers. Loaded 2500-3000 and shot at least 2000 of them and never a hickup. I did have some very old .45 Colt brass that you really had to push to seat the primer flush with the bottom of the cases. They were .003 deeper than CCI large pistol, but the CCI's also were hard to seat flush. I will hand clean these cases as I load the rest or reload those already loaded.

I did load 500 or so of the Tula small rifle for my son in law and he shot them in various ARs and had no issues. The price break was good for range ammo usage. I still buy US primers for accuracy and for bench rest and competition rifle loads. I prefer the way they are packaged over the CCI's and Remingtons. easier to place in primer flipper tray to load primer tubes. Wish I could justify an automatic primer tube loader!!!

Any primer at this point in history. Glad I had 10K plus on hand.

USMC87
02-20-2013, 12:11 AM
I have used them in revolver and autos without a problem. They perform just fine for me.

phil3333
02-20-2013, 12:19 AM
thanks

khmer6
02-20-2013, 12:47 AM
There are mixed feelings on them same as wolf, but at 15 per k who can complain

oldscool
02-20-2013, 03:38 AM
They pop when hit by a firing pin.

dauntlessdave
02-20-2013, 10:04 AM
On another site I frequent there's a big discussion about Tula primers and the comments have been mixed. I have used their small rifle magnum primers for several years with very few FTF's in my AR's and find them to be extremely economically priced as compared to other brands. I also use their small pistol primers and have had equally good results. To me they're a good deal and reliable enough to continue buying.

One of the questions posed was......are Tula and Wolf ultimately the same primer? I know they're made at the same Russian facility but appear to be different. Anyone know for sure?

khmer6
02-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Again, there are mixed stories with wolf and tula primers are the same or not. When I was shopping for primers, I noticed everywhere tula was significantly more expensive than wolf.

dbar
02-20-2013, 06:32 PM
Yeah but they are in stock now at Natchez Large Rifle Magnum primers

fusionstar916
02-21-2013, 03:45 PM
If they are the same as wolf, I have used the .223 SRP for .40 .223 and .300 aac loads. First pack in the same 1k box were oversized and were very hard to seat with a manual hand primer, the rest went in smooth. But they ALL went bang. If you want to shoot groups, get something else. I cant get it below 1moa with the same load with cci primers that shoot 1/2 moa or better. Saves only half a cent per shot. If you can find ANY primers. stock up then tell me so I can stock up lol.

Hip's Ax
02-21-2013, 04:00 PM
I use Wolf in my match rifles for accuracy reasons. The price I paid for them is just gravy. I use SRM in my AR-15 NM at 200/300/600 and LRM in my 6XC 600 yard prone rifle and I use LR in my 6.5-284 1000 yard rifle.

Murom Device would be the actual manufacturer, I am surprised to hear that some think the Tula brand is different than Wolf, PMC or the original Russian packaging. If Tula is indeed different this is a first, in the past the packaging made no difference. I bought them with the Wolf packaging and I am very glad I did.

oldred
02-21-2013, 04:05 PM
Natchez has some CCI BR LR primers in stock but at $52/1000 and they also have some Federal Champion LR in stock for $32/1000, at least they did 5 minutes ago!

GabbyM
02-21-2013, 11:46 PM
I've heard internet stories of people having issue with the lead free versions.

I've poped a few Wolf primers. Get very low E.S. readings with them. LR and SR.

Wayne Smith
02-22-2013, 08:36 AM
www.DAGAmmo.com. Dominic is the brother of the importer and handles most of the sales. He's USMC and a good guy.

dilly
02-23-2013, 03:30 AM
I have used then and had no complaints. I thought they were on the hard end of the spectrum, but I don't claim top have used every brand of primer there is.

khmer6
02-23-2013, 12:28 PM
If the price margin on then is still what it used to be, then they are worth a shot for half the price of winchester federal and cci. Problem was no one locally had them.

CATTLEMAN
03-13-2013, 03:15 AM
I use them and like them. I don't use them for high accuracy loads only because I have not evaluated them for those loads. I used a bunch this afternoon in a 300 blackout AR and they worked great.

sirgknight
03-13-2013, 07:58 PM
Haven't used the Tula brand, but Wolf is now my go-to primer, especially in .223. Haven't seen any real proof where the wolf SRM primer can be beat in that cartridge. I would guess that I have loaded somewhere around 25 or 30 thousand wolf's, small and large, pistol and rifle. I can honestly say that I can remember only two misfires and can't prove that they weren't my fault in the priming process. I will tell you this...there was a time when I didn't have any small pistol primers so I loaded my .38 rounds with small rifle magnum primers. Only about 4 out of 10 would ignite. I found out the firing pin on my firearm was not strong enough to fire the primer. Never did that again.....wolf primers are an outstanding value and outstanding performer, IMO.

km101
03-13-2013, 11:30 PM
I have used Tula LP and SP primers and have not had any issues. I have shot about 2K small pistol primers in the last 2 months, and around 1.5K large pistol. I have not had any FTF problems and they have loaded just fine. I use them im all my pistol loads and in SR for my ar's. And the price difference makes me like them even better.

I still use Rem and CCI for my rifle loads, because I have a stock of them, and I dont use as many of them as I do pistol, but if I run out of the Rem and CCI, I would use the Tula there also.

A pause for the COZ
03-14-2013, 12:05 AM
I have been through about 6 or 7 thousand of them. Works fine for me.

ukrifleman
03-14-2013, 01:19 PM
I have used several thousand Murom manufactured Russian L/R primers and have not had any problems so far.
ukrifleman.

Beesdad
03-14-2013, 06:04 PM
Well into my first 10,000 SP primers with only one FTF... Fired on my second attempt. Just placed another order. The price is right at 22.00 / 1000. To compare I picked up 500 Federal SP primers at the LGS yesterday priced at 40.00 / 1000 (500 is their limit per customer).

wyattjames
03-14-2013, 08:04 PM
i have used the wolf tula and had some very early russian import primers 12 yrs ago have shot tens of thousands of them and have not had any problems, and will continue to use them

jdgabbard
03-17-2013, 11:27 AM
I recently ordered another sleeve of them... They are great. I swear by them. I would use them over CCI any day. I bought a sleeve of CCI once, and 1 of 3 were FTFs... I have 2-3 per thousand in the Tula or Wolfs that do this. And that is good enough for me.

dmclark523
03-17-2013, 12:10 PM
I've been loading them into 9mm, shot maybe, 300-400 so far. Out of that many, I've had maybe 3-4 that, when trigger was pulled and the primer pierced, didn't go off. I just chambered a new one, kicked the bad one aside, and kept shooting.

I've been loading less than a year though, so it may be due in part to some error on my end of things... just my $.02

tom357mag
03-17-2013, 07:49 PM
I just loaded some for my AR and they preformed flawlessly.

ACrowe25
03-17-2013, 08:04 PM
I've heard internet stories of people having issue with the lead free versions.

I've poped a few Wolf primers. Get very low E.S. readings with them. LR and SR.

I've also heard of some troubles with the lead-free versions, but has anyone had first hand experience. I don't usually like going by the "heard" stories.

ACrowe25
03-17-2013, 08:04 PM
I'm looking forward to this market turning around and I'll be buying a case or two of them for my 45 ACP loadings, seems to be a good primer for them, again, from things I've heard.

Alley Cat
03-18-2013, 06:42 PM
I've shot several thousand spp and lpp and would not hesitate to buy more, especially for $22/1000. They do fit a bit more snugly into a primer pocket than other brands and I had a few fail to ignite on the first strike which I discovered were due to not fully seating. Once I fixed my seating problem, I haven't had a single issue since!

olddaddy
03-19-2013, 08:48 PM
I was looking at the Dagammo web page and they list two types of large rifle primers, Boxer and Berdan. Can someone educate me on the difference? They mention reaming and scraping stuff to get proper seating, which makes me a little nervous. I'm relatively new at reloading having started again after a 30 year layoff. So, even at $139 for 5K I want to be sure I get the right thing. I am loading a Marlin .30/30 with cast bullets using a Lee C-type press. Any advice appreciated.

TheCelt
03-19-2013, 09:35 PM
I was looking at the Dagammo web page and they list two types of large rifle primers, Boxer and Berdan. Can someone educate me on the difference? They mention reaming and scraping stuff to get proper seating, which makes me a little nervous. I'm relatively new at reloading having started again after a 30 year layoff. So, even at $139 for 5K I want to be sure I get the right thing. I am loading a Marlin .30/30 with cast bullets using a Lee C-type press. Any advice appreciated.

You want Large Rifle Boxer Primers. As for cleaning the primer pockets............the little Lee tool you got with your kit will do fine, just spin it in the primer pocket and you're good to go.

trapper300RUM
04-05-2013, 09:14 PM
I am planning to use them in my Lee Pro 1000 Progressive I have found a site thats selling them by the case for a fair price finally

Dark Helmet
04-05-2013, 11:53 PM
trapper, is this the site? http://www.dagammo.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page_2
He does gunshows from Va. Beach up thru Northern VA.

trapper300RUM
04-05-2013, 11:57 PM
Sure Is Dark Helmet

Giggidy
04-06-2013, 07:05 PM
I've used tula and cci small pistol primers for my 9mm and 9x18 reloads and have noticed no substantive difference in performance between them. All of my tula reloads have gone bang.

Floydster
04-06-2013, 08:21 PM
:DI have used 35,000 in the last four years, please don't buy any---save them for me

Egturbo02
04-07-2013, 01:09 AM
Never had any problems with them and the have the best prices.

Lloyd Smale
04-07-2013, 07:41 AM
id take some small pistol primers right now even if the package said Obama on them.

gandog56
04-07-2013, 04:45 PM
I've had no usage problems with them, but they seem a bit harder to prime your cases. A little extra effort using a hand priming tool was needed. Sort of like when I use ANY type primer to prime Winchester and S&B 7.62X54R brass. Their flash holes seem to be a bit smaller than norm. I'm kind of thinking Tula primers may be a bit BIGGER than normal. Would REALLY hate to use them, a hand primer tool, and a Win/S&B case!