what do you know about US Census "mandatory" surveys?

[scottiemom]

First, I'd like to state I have never in my life broken a law - and I certainly don't want to start now.
That being said, we got a "you have been selected to participate in the US Census household survey" letter.

Frankly, I don't want to answer most of the questions on that survey. I tend to be a very private person and the information being requested is pretty personal. It is no ones business how much I paid for my house, what car I drive or how much I spend on household expenses. But the letter stated it is mandatory by Federal Law that the survey has to be completed. That there are fines and penalties associated with not filling it out.

It also says that someone from the Census department would come to the house if the survey is not returned.

Anyone know what these penalties etc. are?

I would be interested in your opinions of all of this as well.

Thanks guys!

[LUCKYDAWG13]

was it a registered letter if not toss it [smilie=1:

[Love Life]

I got one of those last year. As the deadline for mailing it got closer I started getting phone calls from the Census people. I finally filled it out, but made sure my handwriting was so poor that it would take very serious effort to read it. I also dunked it in water and let it dry before sending it off. I never got any calls on it so who knows?

Mine was titled "Community Survey"

[cbrick]

The Constitution says they have count noses plus the census has been finished for three years now so what would they be trying to do? Sounds like a scam letter to me.

If this is something that has you worried get the phone number for them in DC (not off that letter) and call and ask if they are sending out such a letter. I'd bet they are not.

Rick

[Charlie Two Tracks]

http://directorsblog.blogs.census.gov/2012/06/04/why-are-some-census-surveys-mandatory/
Looks like they are.

[Matt_G]

https://askacs.census.gov/faq.php?id=5000&faqId=7455

Your call. I know what I would do...

[jonas302]

Had the same letter and phone calls told them how many people lived here and to send the sheriff if they needed any more information
The questions were extremly invasive and none of there business

[merlin101]

I got one on a bad day last year and answered with things like "i don't remember, I don't know, and I don't care! They called and left about 3 messages before getting ahold of me I basicly said WHAAT??? They left this dumb hillbilly alone. :)

[Love Life]

It is legit. I called to verify as well. I was just hoping they would forget, but alas they did not and started the calls. Thus my response.

[Houndog]

Janet,
IF if didn't come registered or certified mail deposit it in the round file cabinet (trash can) and forget about it! That's the only way they can certify you got the letter! The ONLY thing the census people get from me is how many people live in the household and NOTHING else.

[williamwaco]

Hey guys, Wake up. They have been doing that since at least the '50s.

You need to understand that all that talk about your "rights" is just that - talk.

They have been taking away a few every year and now they are all gone.

[00buck]

Oh.. they can "make" you answer personal questions..but cant ask if your a legal citizen?

[Jim]

Oh, that's EXACTLY what I want is for somebody to come up here (assuming they could find the house!), bang on my door and tell me I HAVE to answer their questions. If you don't have a subpeona or a court order and a deputy to serve same, you're trespassin', sport.

I'd hate like hang to do somethin' to cause Sheriff Zeman to be dissapointed with me, seein' as I'm on first name basis with most of his force. But like every man, I have my limits of what I'll tolerate. You push me too far an' I'll show you what an ol' retired Irish pipefitter is made of.

[cbrick]

Your not responsible for anything left in your mail box unless you sign for it. I know what I would do.

The constitution says the gubmint will count noses every ten years, it says nothing of asking for personal info which is none of their business. That's all I ever tell the census, how many live here. As was posted already, they better send the sheriff with an arrest warrant if they plan on attempting to get more.

As was also posted, nobody can ask me if I'm in the country leagally but they can ask about anything personal? BS!

Rick

[TCFAN]

I got one of these surveys back in 2010. Like you I came here to to see if any one had any info. Here is a link to that thread
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?96651-The-American-Community-Survey

I finally did fill mine out and return it. They did call several time before I sent it in......Terry

[Jim]

Your not responsible for anything left in your mail box unless you sign for it. .....Rick

That's what I told Janet. If they don't have a signature to PROVE you got it, they ain't got stink in a dog yard.

Besides that, the envelope was addressed to my PHYSICAL address, not my PO box. We don't even have a mail box out on the road. You look up my physical address and it will send you to an empty lot.

I've been discussing this with Janet since she wrote the opening post. Man, this makes me hot! I sure hope none o' them fools try to come up here. I'm liable to get myself in trouble sure as the world.

[Love Life]

Wait until they start calling Jim and offer to send another survey or do the survey over the phone.

[geargnasher]

Had the same letter and phone calls told them how many people lived here and to send the sheriff if they needed any more information
The questions were extremly invasive and none of there business

Exactly.

Same as CBRick and others have said, your constitutional mandate begins and ends as a HEAD COUNT. Anything else and they can suck wind.

I filled out the number of persons and left the last bit blank on mine, and sent it back with delivery confirmation. Come to think of it, I don't recall getting that confirmation postcard returned, Hmmmmm.

Anyway, I don't recognize any federal law greater than those in the constitution and it's amendments. They can send the Marines down here if they want to, but they're not getting more than a head count out of me, nosey bunch of jackwagons.

Gear

[Idaho Mule]

Sounds like good firestarter to me. JW

[TXGunNut]

Takes a court order to get my phone number and an appointment to get me to answer the door. I got the long form once, read it over, called BS and didn't give it another thought. Census takers came by 5-6 times before they got the message.
No idea why they're doing it now, our tax dollars at work.

[Jim]

Sounds like good firestarter to me. JW

Staple it on a target board.

[462]

I returned the 2010 census form, after filling out only the section asking for the number of people living in the household. Some weeks later, a lady knocked on the door, identified herself, and started asking questions. I politely interrupted her, said that the Census Bureau had all the infomation that was required of me, and that the conversation was over. When she started with the typical bureaucratic authoritive and aggressive behavior, I said goodbye and closed the door.

[dbosman]

They also survey businesses. That one is mandatory. The part I most dislike about that one is getting lumped in with all the other "small" businesses with 100 - 1000 employees. Mine had one employee, me.

Then "they" put out reports on manufacturing activity that has no relationship with current reality. Those get reported (distorted) in the press and help cause panic or depression.

[dbosman]

When you don't answer, they are authorized and do, talk to your neighbors to get the answers. For my neighbors the answers were; I'm not sure, maybe, and I'm really not sure.

[Harter66]

I did 1 of those many years ago. Told the truth. Winter heating $135 cause the kids whine if I don't feed the while they cut split and stack 5-6 cord o wood, $4/hr after your cut, 62'checker that I was paid to haul away,$10 k under appraised value of the lot and garage they threw in the house and a 65 checker parts car and so on.

[Duckiller]

Answer the survey. They probably aren't making you answer under penality of purjury. Give them any answer you want. They aren't going to make you prove what you said. Make up half way reasonable answers and the number crunchers will overjoyed.

[jonas302]

And ignoring will not make them go away If you think your hot now Jim wait till the phone calls start coming on my cell phone, at work, on Sunday it was worse than telemarketers boy am I glad no one showed up in person I'm still pretty worked up about it maybe it would have been better have a good time and fill the survey in with funny answers rather than argue with those sobs

[L1A1Rocker]

Exactly.

Same as CBRick and others have said, your constitutional mandate begins and ends as a HEAD COUNT. Anything else and they can suck wind.

I filled out the number of persons and left the last bit blank on mine, and sent it back with delivery confirmation. Come to think of it, I don't recall getting that confirmation postcard returned, Hmmmmm.

Anyway, I don't recognize any federal law greater than those in the constitution and it's amendments. They can send the Marines down here if they want to, but they're not getting more than a head count out of me, nosey bunch of jackwagons.

Gear

Gear is right:


Article 1 Section 2 of the US Constitution states in part:
The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

The one I got in 2010 had the number of people at my residence and that quote with "none of your business" written in on the rest of the questions. I never heard back from them.

[RPRNY]

With the greatest of respect to those who believe the Census an invasion of their privacy, I would point out that just as we demand the Second Amendment to the Constitution be respected, so must we respect the Constitution. Else we are but the same hypocrites that we decry among the revisionist Liberals. The Constitution requires a Census tobe conducted in the manner Congress shall determine. Just as we demand that Congress and the State legislatures abide by the 2nd Amendment whether they like it or not, so we must abide by the Constitutional requirement for Census - as determined by Congress. Further, when you fail to report, you under - represent productives and allow govt statistics to over - represent takers. When policy is built on fact (admittedly rare), you help make it appear that there are plenty of "takers " out there supporting a euro - socialist approach to policy. Report loudly and proudly. Stand up and be counted.

[Mk42gunner]

Most of the land titles from Misssouri that I have seen have "Ten dollars and other valuble considerations." for the cost of the land, unless it was a tax sale.

Robert

[10 ga]

I love getting stuff like that. I always answer their questions and return promptly. However I also try to skew the parameters of the questions as best possible. Like answering all money questions with a handwriten notation that the values are in Kroner or Krugerrands or in "2083" dollars. One of the guys I hunt with has a Klingon to English and vsversa app on his smart phone and I have even given all the answers in Klingon. Whenever it is a "multi choice" type question I scratch it out and just write what I want. I have never had a call or followup letter on any of these surveys. Have survey now that you get when you get a HIP# for hunting migratory birds. That is fun too. My kill/take numbers reflect that I hunted every day of every season and took bag limit of all available birds every day. And that is for VA and NC. I don't know if they use real people or machines on that survey as it is mostly multiple choice bubble dot answers. Yes, LOL. Ya got to look for opportunities to have some fun and screw up some bureaucrat at the same time. Hope all well out there, 10 ga

[L1A1Rocker]

With the greatest of respect to those who believe the Census an invasion of their privacy, I would point out that just as we demand the Second Amendment to the Constitution be respected, so must we respect the Constitution. Else we are but the same hypocrites that we decry among the revisionist Liberals. The Constitution requires a Census tobe conducted in the manner Congress shall determine. Just as we demand that Congress and the State legislatures abide by the 2nd Amendment whether they like it or not, so we must abide by the Constitutional requirement for Census - as determined by Congress. Further, when you fail to report, you under - represent productives and allow govt statistics to over - represent takers. When policy is built on fact (admittedly rare), you help make it appear that there are plenty of "takers " out there supporting a euro - socialist approach to policy. Report loudly and proudly. Stand up and be counted.

I have to correct you. The Constitution does not specify a "census" which often includes demographic information. The constitution specifies an "enumeration" to be taken. That is done for one purpose only. To determine the number of Representatives in the House each state shall have. For a point of clarification, enumeration (as specified in the Constitution) does not collect demographic information as a census does (or can). What we have here is a government that was given an inch and has taking a mile. The government has intentionally distorted what the Constitution mandates by calling it something that the Constitution does not; a census. There is NO Constitutional requirement to give ANY information other than the number of people in the residence.

[Stephen Cohen]

So America has that socialist rubbish too. I filled one out years ago where it said sex I said I like it, and where it said place of birth I said under gum tree. I put it in the unmarked envelope and handed it in. Next morning I got a visit from an officer asking If I wanted a second chance. So much for privacy.

[WILCO]

Contact an Attorney, go from there.

[dragon813gt]

I wish they would send one to me. I love screwing with people. I filled out only the number of people that live in my home along with race on the 2010 census. They still kept coming to my door because I didn't fill out more. I got a lot of joy when they knocked. I would open the door, walk out, close the door behind me, lock it up and walk away without acknowledging that they were there. I can't respect anyone that works for the census bureau. Just another waste of my tax money IMO. They didn't respect that I already did my constitutional obligation so why should I respect them?

[farmerjim]

Your first statement is incorrect. We have so many laws now such that the average person commits three felonies a day without knowing .

[gew98]

I've chased them off every time. Last 'census' they had a couple chubby ninnies come out. They had a real pious attitude and my wife asked them politley to hit the public gravel. They came back a second time while I was in..I was not as polite in affirming the public gravel road was their chosen path and not mine !.

[Jim]

Your first statement is incorrect.

Oh, really! And what factual evidence do you base your statement on?

We have so many laws now such that the average person commits three felonies a day without knowing .

My wife is not average.

[Cactus Farmer]

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We have so many laws now such that the average person commits three felonies a day without knowing .

My wife is not average.


Calling mine average will start a fight you may not win.

[farmerjim]

Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent [Paperback]
Harvey Silverglate (Author)

[captaint]

I don't really have a problem with the census every whatever number of years.
However, in this case, you just know they're working on a way to screw us a
little harder. Take a little more money that belongs to us. They're just figuring
out how to make it more "painless". No such thing. We are all forking out too
much now. No such thing as enough. More. More. More. Mike

[dakotashooter2]

One can answer the questions honestly and still not give them any information. "How much did you pay for your house?"... "Too much" "What is your annual income?"...... "Not enough?"

I guess one could "plead the 5th"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL......................


It is strange that you would be getting census matterial NOW..........................

[Jim]

.....
It is strange that you would be getting census matterial NOW.....

In researching this, Janet found that the census bureau mails 250,000 of the questionaires every month. The plan is that everyone will have received one within five years. The fact that we just received one only indicates where we are on the list.

HERE IS A LINK (http://www.truthistreason.net/how-to-legally-refuse-to-participate-in-the-census-survey)to a site Janet found that has a lot of good information. The author's post is lengthy, but informative. There are over 700 responses ranging from thanks for the information to horror stories about census bureau workers climbing fences and peering in windows.

[472x1B/A]

I got one. Now with all respect to my fellow Cast Booilteers, I filled mine out and sent it in. This took many many hours for me to deal with this. Jim, I DO NOT blame you or Janet for being extremly, vehemently furious about this. It was received on 06-02-12. THE NEXT DAY I get this little snipit postcard that says,"A few days ago, you should have received an American Community Survey questionnaire.If you have already mailed it back, thank you. If you have not, please send it soon.

Local and national leaders use the information from this survey for planning schools,hospitals, roads, and other community needs."

I and the city police chief are on a first name basis, I showed this to him for his input. When he saw the questions on the survey he was 'upset' and asked me what I intened doing. I also showed him the postcard. My responce was 'what are you going to do when you get yours?'. We both kinda sat there and looked at each other.

So some questions were answered, some weren't, some ?, and some ?n't, some coffee was spilled accidentally, some gun cleaning solvent was spilled accidentally, (I have no idea how the questionnaire got into the gun room.)and some other 'stuff' got spilled accidentally on the questinnaire. It was dried out to the best of my ability and sent in. So next time, penalty or no penatly, it's going into the can and they can come get me. This was disgracefull.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

My wife worked for the census for a few weeks , they can ask anything but all they need is the number of persons in your house hold fill that out and return.

they even tried to communicate to the large Latino community in a near by town that they were better off filling out just that and returning it or someone would be around to ask more questions

what it came down to for her was she told them we live in rural wisconsin she wanted to work in rural wisconsin and they sent her to down town city 40 miles away , working the west side of the river , the east side of the river a few hundred yards away got paid more because it was considered a hazard area with hazard pay for high crime. she did that area for one day in the pouring rain then quit

DID YOU KNOW THAT THEY CONFIRMED THE GPS COORDINATES OF YOUR FRONT PORCH WITH THE LAST 2010 CENSUS

[10 ga]

HERE IS A LINK (http://www.truthistreason.net/how-to-legally-refuse-to-participate-in-the-census-survey) ranging from thanks for the information to horror stories about census bureau workers climbing fences and peering in windows.
Anybody peering in my windows better have 2 things, hands over head in the air and a blue/yellow/pink paper in their hands that is titled "warrant". If not that then "you will be hearing from my attourney" (I'm a lottery winner) and the local LEOs will be summoned as I'll be holding your *** for their arrival. They can come to the door but don't leave the path! See my previous post for my usual response to the mail inquirys.

10 ga

[BRobertson]

We got one a couple of years ago

I told them how many people live here, and that was all!!

Bob

[gray wolf]

No way they get all that info over here, I looked it up and now I just show them the LAW,
how many people in the house, and how old, there might be one more, we give them a printed copy and wish them a good day.
3 years ago I had a dude follow me around and insist we fill out this huge amount of paper work,
I kept telling him I wasn't going to do it and to leave us alone. When I got home that day he had left a plastic bag on the deck with two more sets of papers. He came around latter that day and told me he would give me $40.00 if I filled them out, I looked at him and said.
"" I will give YOU 40 seconds to get off my porch "" never seen him since. Or any of the other critters wanting my life story, they can read about it when it comes out in book form.
I couldn't believe he offered me money, never seen that before.

[10 ga]

So America has that socialist rubbish too.

All too much/many of them, however they are fun to antagonize!

I filled one out years ago where it said sex I said I like it, and where it said place of birth I said under gum tree. I put it in the unmarked envelope and handed it in. Next morning I got a visit from an officer asking If I wanted a second chance.

Of course you want a second chance, but do the same thing but send/post it to another province/state/area far far away and then start over.

So much for privacy.

Should have blanked out all the barcodes and such on the paper, I usually cut them out with scissors so there is no getting them up for ID purposes. Then when they send another inquiry just answer differently and with great and incredible detail, like "I was born on the X floor in room Y in Z hospital that was operated by L church and may parents were charged $*#. Eventually you can get to the Lat/Long of the place and be incredibly accurate and factual.

WOW, now I hope they send my letter soon. I need some entertainment. Thanks, 10 ga

[Jim]

.....DID YOU KNOW THAT THEY CONFIRMED THE GPS COORDINATES OF YOUR FRONT PORCH WITH THE LAST 2010 CENSUS

In order for that to be confirmed, they have to be on my front porch to do it. Not only have they never been here, they would never find the house.

The few people I've had as guests, I've told "I'll meet you at the post office , you can follow me home. You'd never find the house." So far, I've had two tell me "Just give me your address, I'll find it." So, I let 'em try. Both called and told me they couldn't find the house. After meeting them on the highway and leading them back, they both said something to the effect of "Dang, Jim, I hope you never need the fire department!"

I have a very nice hiding place and I like it.

[Phoenix]

Whatever you do if you fill it out with inaccurate information DO NOT SIGN IT.

VERY few people get messed with by the census people. There were statistics back in 2010 about how 10s of thousands of people that do not respond and only a few are ever charged with anything. But if you look up some info on that. You will find most of the people charged with something are related to threats, brandishing and others but one thing stands out. When you sign it you are affirming it is the truth. That gives them what they need to at least give you a hard time or threaten you to get what they want. I havn't even received a census form in 30 years. So I guess I am a lucky one.

[45nut]

plead the 5th.

[Phoenix]

Dang, Jim, I hope you never need the fire department

This is funny. I just got in a fight with the county a few months ago. They charged me $75 per year for the Volunteer fire department. I said they would never show up. They said Sure they will its their job. I said does it count if they show up 3-24 hours later? The fire department is an hour drive from me, They have never showed up before they were no longer needed anywhere in this place. I told them the only person that is going to put out a fire is me or time. The fire department will never be useful to me. and if the forest catches then it will be the state with helicopters that will put it out. and that is a separate line on my taxes. That one I am glad to pay.

[Phoenix]

plead the 5th.

This wont work. They say that your information is private and cannot be used in proceedings against you. I was told that since the information is protected you cannot claim the 5th. The part about it being protected is a bold faced lie.

They also say all information is private. that is also a lie. They released all the data from the 2010 census. except the names. Well all the data people did was cross reference the postal address database with the census data and merged them using a few other sources to extrapolate all the data for the entire US. I refuse to answer on of those on the grounds they do not protect my information as the law says it is to be. Everything is available from data crunchers for a price.

[MUSTANG]

No way they get all that info over here, I looked it up and now I just show them the LAW,
how many people in the house, and how old, there might be one more, we give them a printed copy and wish them a good day.
3 years ago I had a dude follow me around and insist we fill out this huge amount of paper work,
I kept telling him I wasn't going to do it and to leave us alone. When I got home that day he had left a plastic bag on the deck with two more sets of papers. He came around latter that day and told me he would give me $40.00 if I filled them out, I looked at him and said.
"" I will give YOU 40 seconds to get off my porch "" never seen him since. Or any of the other critters wanting my life story, they can read about it when it comes out in book form.
I couldn't believe he offered me money, never seen that before.


Gray Wolf:

The offer of $40.00 is indicative of the Temporary Hire "Paid Census Taker". I know for a fact that during the 2010 census there were census workers supplied by ACORN. They were paid by the US Census Bureau, but were also receiving "Bonus Pay" from ACORN and other Liberal Progressive groups. This is where the money came from to offer you a $40.00 "Bribe".

We had a friend who was out of work (Phoenix Area) and took a job with the 2010 Census. Just before they would qualify for full time employment, Census workers there were fired/laid off. After a day passed they were called and told to report for work again. This was a strategy by the Obama Administration to keep them from being listed as Full Time Employees, because as soon as they were Full Time they would count as newly unemployed and once they left the census, it would screw up the "Jobs Created" Stats and result in a huge "Unemployment Up=Tick", they were manipulating the unemployment data with Census woorkers.

This same friend also relayed that they were repeatedly instructed (Verbally with no ability to record) to ensure that everyone was counted, if no one was at home or could not be found, then fill out the form with your best guess. (In other words, make it up). If the supervisory persons were dissatisfied with the count and data collected, they would tell the worker surveyors to change the information. If they did not, then the Supervisory people would take the forms and send them away, presumably the Supervisory persons changed data themselves at that time. (Seems to be the old tactic of get some one to do something illegal, that way they can't rat on you for your illegal acts and they can be controlled). Our friend refused, but was quietly informed that if a charge of fraudulent activity was filed, they would fire them and they had plenty of people who would swear that this friend had falsified data and was taking pay from outside entities. In other words slander them with charges of activity that was rampant throughout the census group, but the person refused to engage in.

During the 2010 census I was approached at the house by a census worker who wanted me to fill out a huge form. I filled out my name, address, and how many persons were in the household. I then handed him a copy of the Constitution, plus one for his supervisor, and told them to get back with me after they read it. Never heard from them again.

Mustang

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

In order for that to be confirmed, they have to be on my front porch to do it. Not only have they never been here, they would never find the house.

The few people I've had as guests, I've told "I'll meet you at the post office , you can follow me home. You'd never find the house." So far, I've had two tell me "Just give me your address, I'll find it." So, I let 'em try. Both called and told me they couldn't find the house. After meeting them on the highway and leading them back, they both said something to the effect of "Dang, Jim, I hope you never need the fire department!"

I have a very nice hiding place and I like it.

Well that may have been the case , I only know that they were hired to confirm data they had the pads they had had built in gps they would log into them and get their assignment, travel to the starting point then confirm each address location and some basic things about the house or apartment some of the time they were just confirming info , then in the case of a street that had been miss labeled or some such thing it had her verify every house number and push the take coordinates button. in training they were told "because they were the government they could go past gates ans right up to the house" but her trainer said it was up to their discretion so any time a gate was reached she just took the mark at the gate and let the people be. but like i said she really didn't feel comfortable doing the job , and quit after 1 day of actually taking assignments on her own. i would like to thank you all for the 2 weeks training she got paid for , and the added tax benefit of her having income that year we collected the making work pay tax credit.

meth labs are a reality in rural south west Wisconsin and the training class discussed this and opted to not pass any gates , that year apparently the labs were right in town , had 2 blow up a few months later

either way i would fill in number of occupants and send back

[w0fms]

Interesting. In 2010, we had one of those big surveys sent to us -- but they did eventually give up. But they sure did try. Even had a "supervisor" show up. We politely let them know that we checked the law and knew what we had to answer and what we were not obligated to under the law and we didn't really care if they were a "supervisor" or not. We did answer what we were obligated to.

And as far as the GPS coordinates.. that's a fight already lost if you've ever used Google Earth.. just sayin'....

[wv109323]

If they mandated me to fill it out I would get creative with my answers.
Number of people in household: 2 Americans, 27 illegal Mexican aliens, 4 Zombies.
Sex: Twice a week
Annual Income:Yes
Etc.....Etc.....

[shooter93]

Census stuff is always a bit of trouble here. Colleen is a good person...I'm not. No matter what they send they get a head count from me....nothing else. The census is to determine population to be sure representation/representatives are alloted correctly. They only need a head count for that. Any other information they ask for is either for some tax scheme or more likey to narrow areas by ethnicity/income etc so the crooks who represent you now know where and how to pander to specific groups to get re-elected.

[.45Cole]

Most of what the C.B. is doing is collecting data. They are trying to get a good representation of the country. I grew up in Kersey; here's what the survey says about this town (read the Demographics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kersey,_Colorado

There are plenty of great things that can come from this data collection, so don't screw with their numbers. If you feel like it's too invasive, answer approximately so that something like the demographics in the wiki page are still accurate, remember-you're paying for it!
P.S. I've had one come by, and things went great.

[jcwit]

My wife and I have gotten letters a few times over the years to show up for jury duty without the letters being registered.

Try telling the judge you never got the letter when he holds you in contempt of court.

Judges have no sense of humor when it comes to matters such as this.

[dakotashooter2]

Fill it out.....let the dog play with it for a while....stuff it in the envelope..... insert a few drops of fox or skunk essence.... drive over it... put it in a big blue mail box.....................

[scottiemom]

wow - lots of interesting responses and some very creative suggestions! I have no problem complying with the census done every 10 years. this is different. it is a survey (a very invasive survey in my opinion) done by the census but not related to the one done in 2010. Someone said it earlier- if you knowingly give erroneous information that gives them something to get you on as opposed to not filling it out at all. I also found out that there was a bill last year to declare this "survey" unconstitutional and to have them stopped but it did not pass.
Will let you know what happens next. I just feel sorry for the person who decides to come to the back door - only to be greeted by Gretchen (my wonderful and very protective German Shepherd)!

[Gator 45/70]

I tell them that i'm dead and i'm just a friend here for the wake.

[462]

+1 on what Mustang said. For anyone other than the sheeple, those shenanegans were common knowledge.

Information, other than the head count, is used for social engineering and liberal agendas.

[bob208]

i had some one from the census show up at the house. i told them how many lived in the house. after that they got i plead the 5th.

[firefly1957]

I got one last year never returned it and nothing came of it, since there is no way to verify who filled it out i was tempted to have fun with them by filling in bad information but it was not worth the effort!

[Blacksmith]

Scottiemom,

Write on it their legal mandate is for an enumeration every ten years and that you satisfied that in 2010 and will be happy to update that information in 2020.

[jcwit]

Way more than likely they already know all about you anyway.

[TXGunNut]

Way more than likely they already know all about you anyway.



Yep! And the barcode probably has your info as well.