What am.....

[RMulhern]

I doing here?

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[Nobade]

Gotta let the air out or the lube won't stay put.

[Don McDowell]

"What am I doing here?"
Inside lubing the case necks, and then trying to dig the excess lube out, so you can load your 300 gr blockbuster greasegroove gaschecked bullet over your favored charge of trail boss??:mrgreen:

[RMulhern]

"What am I doing here?"
Inside lubing the case necks, and then trying to dig the excess lube out, so you can load your 300 gr blockbuster greasegroove gaschecked bullet over your favored charge of trail boss??:mrgreen:

Don me boy,

You KNOW BETTER THAN THAT!!:):mrgreen:

Oh...btw....been shooting some 'dry patched' stuff recently and the groove in me patchin board works like a champ! I sand-papered the edges of the groove, lay the patch paper down on a drawn straight line and all need doing is to rotate the bullet and the patch is tight!

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[montana_charlie]

That is similar to my method, Rick. I use a plastic cutting board and foam tape where you use plywood with a groove. But, the mechanics are the same.

When the patch is positioned as in your picture, I lick my left thumb and swipe it on the tip of the patch, on the side facing me.
That causes the paper curl over the bullet, and makes certain the pointy tip lays flat as the wrap goes over it.
( ... only works when the grain in the paper runs crosswise to the patch ... )

CM

[Don McDowell]

Rick is that paper the 8lb yellow rolls from utrecht?
I've been using one of those conveyor belt blocks from Kenny and sure like the way it works both wet and dry patches. Matter fact when rolling wet, I just take a dap of water on my finger tip, spread it on that block and lay the patch down. Works like a champ.

[RMulhern]

Rick is that paper the 8lb yellow rolls from utrecht?
I've been using one of those conveyor belt blocks from Kenny and sure like the way it works both wet and dry patches. Matter fact when rolling wet, I just take a dap of water on my finger tip, spread it on that block and lay the patch down. Works like a champ.

Don

I think this is Seth Cole 7#; I'll have to check the label to see! I've got a BUNCH of it!! Measures 0.0018" thickness.

[Don McDowell]

I sure like that seth cole 8# on the fat bullets in the 44.

[RMulhern]

I sure like that seth cole 8# on the fat bullets in the 44.

It's taken me 15 years to get to where I know how to work with the .45; don't think I got time to start on a .44!!

[Don McDowell]

You know that's a shame that most folks take that point of view. I don't think I've ever had anything that was as easy to get to shooting as this 44-77. It was the most chambered cartridge until about 76, had a great reputation both in the field and on the target range. I'm thinking it probably dropped deep into obscolecence maybe because it's a gaawd awful big case for the smokeless powder of the time..
But really with this paper patching thing no matter what the chamber, we're just now back to the knowledge that most 12 year olds had in the 1870's.

[Rattus58]

But really with this paper patching thing no matter what the chamber, we're just now back to the knowledge that most 12 year olds had in the 1870's.

That is true of everything... they were much smarter then than we are today in basic stuff.... fer sure!

[Lead pot]

You know that's a shame that most folks take that point of view. I don't think I've ever had anything that was as easy to get to shooting as this 44-77. It was the most chambered cartridge until about 76, had a great reputation both in the field and on the target range. I'm thinking it probably dropped deep into obscolecence maybe because it's a gaawd awful big case for the smokeless powder of the time..
But really with this paper patching thing no matter what the chamber, we're just now back to the knowledge that most 12 year olds had in the 1870's.

Don I agree with you 100% . All of my .44's except one of the .44-90 bn's shot from the go.

Rick your lube looks like you may have put some graphite in it???
By the way I dont use a board, I can get the patch on faster rolling it on dry with my fingers.
Kurt.

[Don McDowell]

Yuppers and even that one shot pretty decent, it twas just a tad finicky is all..:mrgreen:

[RMulhern]

Don I agree with you 100% . All of my .44's except one of the .44-90 bn's shot from the go.

Rick your lube looks like you may have put some graphite in it???
By the way I dont use a board, I can get the patch on faster rolling it on dry with my fingers.
Kurt.

Kurt

Graphite.....in my lube??? Naaaaawwww.....I wouldn't do that! Why...that would be taking advice from Col Frank Mayer....and we all know that he was nuttier than a fruit cake!!:):roll:

Lately I've been patching dry and I like the board as my fingers are just too big for just hand rolling and the edges of the paper stay exactly straight and inline using the slot on the board![smilie=1::)

[Don McDowell]

Mayer my foot.... We all know you got started with the graphite cuz the army was still using it when you mustered out. They hadn't made the switch to smokeless and jacketed bullets yet.

[Lead pot]

:-D :drinks:

[RMulhern]

Mayer my foot.... We all know you got started with the graphite cuz the army was still using it when you mustered out. They hadn't made the switch to smokeless and jacketed bullets yet.

:mrgreen::drinks::roll:

[Area Man]

Rick is that paper the 8lb yellow rolls from utrecht?
I've been using one of those conveyor belt blocks from Kenny and sure like the way it works both wet and dry patches. Matter fact when rolling wet, I just take a dap of water on my finger tip, spread it on that block and lay the patch down. Works like a champ.


I hold the parch 10" away from a spray bottle on the mist setting. Lightly coats one side which causes it to curl.

[Seth Hawkins]

So Rick, what are you doing in the original post?

[RMulhern]

So Rick, what are you doing in the original post?

Seth

I use a .400" thick lube cookie in all of my 45 2 7/8 loadings and it's a simple matter to insert the lube cookie into the case as demo shows in first photo. After compression I insert a .030" Walters wad atop the powder, then the cookie, followed by a .060" Walters wad adjacent the bullet. Wads are inserted with a steel dowel made to just slide down inside the interior of the case. Air pocket is broken with a paper clip run down to touch the OPW before insertion of the top wad. As for the lube pan....I level it before pouring the lube so all lube cookies will be the same thickness.:mrgreen::):drinks:

[Doc Highwall]

How do you make it .400" thick? I assume you put something in the pan that thick and pour in the lube till it is just covered to allow for shrinkage due to cooling.

[bigted]

Don me boy,

You KNOW BETTER THAN THAT!!:):mrgreen:

Oh...btw....been shooting some 'dry patched' stuff recently and the groove in me patchin board works like a champ! I sand-papered the edges of the groove, lay the patch paper down on a drawn straight line and all need doing is to rotate the bullet and the patch is tight!

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Rick...this shows the boolit pointing to the left when patching. i do it the oposite with the boolit pointing to my rite.

is this reality or has the direction changed due to photograghy? and what differences have you seen with the direction of the patch on accuracy?

[Don McDowell]

Rick is left handed, even his bolt guns have the handle on the wrong side

[RMulhern]

bigted

I do it as shown.:)

Don

Actually I'm ambidextrious but my left eye is my master eye.:mrgreen:

[RMulhern]

How do you make it .400" thick? I assume you put something in the pan that thick and pour in the lube till it is just covered to allow for shrinkage due to cooling.

Doc

Metal pans SUCK; they're usually 'bowed' in the middle! I stole a long glass cookie dish from my wife's kitchen which IS FLAT-BOTTOMED and I have a mark on the side that I pour the lube up to! When not in use I keep it in the refrigerator which I have in my Bears Den! It gets DAMN HOT here in the summer...which isn't far off....unfortunately!!

[bigted]

HA !!!! im ambidextrious as well...slong as it winds up with my right hand doing the trigger yankin...

thanks Rick...have you sever experimented with rolling the other "rite" way to see if the accuracy or patch cutting/destruction is different?

ill second the glass container as mine...[two]...pie plates are nice n flat across the bottom...also from my wifes stuff...got busted tho and had to replace em...[gladly done as these work very well for me.

[country gent]

I tried Randolph Wrights suggestion in his book for making grease cookies.
A cookie/brownie sheet pour water in it depth isnt as important as covering bottom of pan good. Heat lube in double boiler of an appropriate amount. Heat water to near boiling. Pour melted lube on water and let cool Hot water gives lube more time to float to top and level it self. By pouring the water in the pan its level anywhere. I have a scales on a magnet I can set to depth of water then measure lube thickness when being poured. other than cooling time it really works pretty good. When I started working with my pendersoli I made .060 sheets that way I could make diffrent thicknesses of grease cookies in 1/16" increments easily by adding a layer to the loads.