Gov.Liq brass sales

[phil3333]

Well today was the close of bids and it wasnt pretty,several of the sales brought $10lb
9mm at $6 a pound, there is no way even at the high price brass is right now to retail
that and make any profit,I think people will stop shooting before they pay the prices that
will have to retail for

[TheDoctor]

Either that, or people will stop bidding insane amounts for stuff that is just not worth it. One reason I am not buying anything at all right now. Let the idiots and panic buyers spend all their cash now, will mean more for less later.

[Reg]

I bet it gets resold--- and at a profit.

[GRUMPA]

When I look for 223/5.56 cases I have to wonder how long will it be before I have to close my doors. There's no way I'm charging what I consider overly high prices just for the 300 Blackout brass I make and sell.

[phil3333]

I hear ya I wanted to pick up another sale mainly 223 or 9mm because I am sold out of those almost
but no way not at those prices

[Bonz]

In your opinion, what is preferred on Used Brass; 'decapped & cleaned by wet tumbling with ss pins' or 'picked up off the floor at the indoor shooting range' ?

[phil3333]

for me neither,I only buy military surplus that way I know for sure its once fired

[csmopar]

I've watched some of the Gov auctions go insanely high. Whats funny is the last group, a 1600 lb crate of 5.56 sold for over 7 grand, while the 60,000 lb dumpster full went for just 3200... man I wish I had 3200.

[dbosman]

With prices going the way they are, even a bank might loan for that kind of investment.

[USMC87]

I agree with the Doctor, I am not buying until the craze blows over or so they say. I have found several good local deals on brass lately. I am waiting on the ok on a plastic barrel of mostly pistol brass.

[FLHTC]

There are recycling yards that sell it for around $3.50 a pound. I get most of what i use from recyclers. I sorted out 100, 22 Hornet cases the other day and 25, 45-70 cases. Everyone sells there but i the only one who buys.

[phil3333]

I think you guys were missing my point, the auctions that went off tuesday basically sold for the going retail price
now or slightly higher,there is significant cost involved before the brass bought at auction is ready to retail. I am a small
player in this game so I don't claim to have any great insider info but one must wonder why the big boys spent so much
and what it means for future prices

[dbosman]

Perhaps a really naive question. The sites are too far away for me to consider anyway.
Is this for real?
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/search?cmd=results&words=brass&EqlExpression=%28%28P_Event_Id%3E=8000%29%20and%20 %28P_Event_Id%3C=8999%29%29

[shooter93]

It may be commercial loaders who sell re-manufactured ammo buying those huge lots.

[257]

hi alot of the goverment auctions are bought by brass foundrys (smelters). also 60000 lbs means 2 tri axle dump trucks. i have bought small lots of miltary 556 800 to 1200 pounds for about 1500.00 in the auction listings it will say end loading (small truck) or open top conviance (open top dump truck. also the chinese have goten back in the game witch drives the price up 200 to 300 persent.

[phil3333]

last time I checked pure copper was around $3lb so no foundry is paying $5-$10lbs for scrap brass
I am guessing that the large commercial reloader are driving the upswing in price

[Teddy (punchie)]

Back to supply and demand.

Look what they have done to gasoline and a few other things. Is there a reason for $3.70 gas when oil is under $100.00.

One has to look around and then shop and shop some more. There are a few deals out there, only trouble is there are also 10 people in front of you and behined looking for them too.

For now I'm shopping and trying to get what I may need, trading off what I don't need and trying to be fair. If I sale, I try sale to common every day Joe at a fair price , dealer or sales man, pays more, or allot more next time, or I don't sale to them any more.

[Swamp Man]

Any of you guys ever run across any RMC brass 410 hulls?

[Case Stuffer]

Several in this thread seem to be missing the point. yes as an indivual you can shop around for a better deal on a few thousand brass cases for your own use even if you have to buy a barrel ,hand sort for the ones you need and then sell other caliberas to you buddies,to members here or even just sell back to scrapyard at going scrap prices. There are many however who are in the business of sellinbg brass to reloaders and also those who are commericail reloaders on both small and large scales. A Dillion 1050 which is fully automated will load 900 plus rounds per hour and some reloaders (ammo remanufactures) have several of more of these running on more than one popular calibers.

Example .223 is extremely popular so 4 automatred presses at 900 per hour equalys 3,600 per hour times 40 hours a week equals 144,000 rounds per week and many are running more thamn 40 hours per week when / if brass and other componets are available.

[phil3333]

Yep the point of my thread is that therise
In cost of the wholesale auctions seems
To be settling in at that higher price level
And that is not a good thing not just for someone
Like me who buys and resales but the end
User
Nobody likes to see people priced out of
Shooting its going to become the most
Succsesful form of gun control

[km101]

If they cant get the guns, then make it too expensive to shoot them. This seems to be the thought process of this administration. They are buying up all the ammo, and pricing us out of the reloading market. So if we cant shoot our guns, maybe we will be more willing to give them up? Sounds like an economics approach to gun control.

And on the OP, I noticed that the descriptions state that the lots may contain blanks, and if the brass is packed in crates, the crates may be included as part of the weight. But they exclude the weight of the pallets. But the weight of the crates and the un-usable brass will make the cost even higher!

[Zombie Whisperer]

Recently I noticed some brass on Ft. Lewis (what they now call JBLM) that was once fired, and ran through a heated popper. When we gave them a call to ask if any of it was re loadable they told us no, and of course our next question was why did you run once fired brass through a furnace. The explanation equated to; some anti gunner was in charge, and they didn't want the brass to be sold to civilians that were going to re load it. This is aggravating on 2 fronts, the one that loves guns, and hates seeing them destroyed, and the tax payer that knows that in the current market that once fired brass is worth WAY WAY more then melted scrap, and just saw his money go up in a furnace for an unconstitutional cause that most of the military does not support!

[Zombie Whisperer]

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6175040

Here is the link to one of them

[Love Life]

It is actually run through the popper to set off any primers or left over powder. The side affect is non-reloadable brass.

[Zombie Whisperer]

I am just telling you what the guy at DRMO said when we called. They also said that they were heated to the point that the primers were fused to the brass.

[Love Life]

They run at 1600 degress.

[GRUMPA]

I think outside the box a bit on this. Before all of this took place with the poppers things were.....OK.

Now it seems that the ones with the control are making it so they are selling scrap to whomever.

The folks that bought it in the past would take there prize home or where-ever and break it up in smaller lots and of course be dispersed through out the country with little to no paper trails.

Now since what was once useful to other countrymen isn't, if you want any your being reduced to go to a company that of course keeps records and orders are generally done with a credit card.

If I wanted to know who got what and how much it would be kinda easy to find that out now.

And of course make things harder to get.

Before?.....not so easy.

Just thinking out loud on this.

[nvald1982]

where can you find gov. auction for brass? was wondering how much do they go for?

[Love Life]

Govliquidation.com

Depends on the weight, but right now 308 and 5.56 is going for $8.00+ per lb+10% buyers premium+tax+shipping if not local.

[lars1367]

Dang that's much higher than I am selling 5.56 and .308 for, and I tumble mine!
-Corey

[Love Life]

Yep. Those prices are steep. Right now the big names in 308 brass are right at or over $300.00 for cleaned only brass.

[dbosman]

They have to be that high as the brass sold for $10 and over, per pound. .308 is 25.5 lbs per thousand.
When commercial reloaders can sell at $1.00 a round - forty cents for the brass is something they can live with.

[Love Life]

Yep. Pretty sucky deal all around. Price goes up for them, which in turn means the price goes up for us the reloader.

I have several tons of 308 Milsurp brass and I will be sad to see it go. I won't be able to stock back up unless I just get lucky.

[257]

another aspec of these prices are the china scrap people they will pay 3 to 500 % over scrap prices then after all these big scrap yards are sitting on tons and tons of it they kill the market and a lot of yards go belly up then they come in and buy the places up in bankrupsey court ordered liquidation the did this about 3 to 4 years ago with iron and steel end result they bought up 5 of the largest scrap yards in the country from the courtsalso places like blackhills runs adds wanting to buy 10,000 rounds or more of brass from any one also black hills used to have you tube vids of there remanufacturing oper. they were using camdex loaders 3500 plus a hour