Primers available... at sickening prices

[1845greyhounds]

FYI - Brunos in Phoenix has primers in-stock. They are super expensive, but it's hard to make things go bang without them.
www.brunoshooters.com

Does anyone else know of a store with primers in-stock?

[khmer6]

thats awful. brunos was one of the shops that didn't gouge...... im glad i got my 50k last year. sportsmanwarehouse gets them in once in a while, if you dont see any on the shelves, ask a FEW of the gun guys about them. ;-)

[drklynoon]

That is just terrible. They could be getting all kinds of new customers if they stayed within some resemblance of normal prices.

[Huntducks]

they doubled their price heck that nothing compaired to some i have seen 4x

[starmac]

How do we know they didn't have to pay through the ying yang to get them themselves???

[possom813]

How do we know they didn't have to pay through the ying yang to get them themselves???

Ditto, and that's not really gouging, not from what I've seen. I've seen a couple of posts on other forums at $10-12 per 100.

The last primers I bought were small pistol magnum, and I paid $39 per 1k for those and saw it as a decent deal.

[fryboy]

they have to pay for their offer of free shipping and hazmat ( per 25,000 ) somehow .....

[blaser.306]

I likely shouldn't jinx myself and say anything. But here in Canada Primers are still selling for $34.99 a thousand ( regular price ) with currently a decent selection, for now. And I have also even found a couple of places that are currently having sales on propelant! Eight lb jugs of 2400 for $110.00 , Eight lb Unique $122.00 Twelve lb of 4759 $150.00 and RX-7 on sale for $16.00 ( not bad ) at a $20.00 per lb saving from list price for the RX-7 alone!

[P.K.]

I likely shouldn't jinx myself and say anything. But here in Canada Primers are still selling for $34.99 a thousand ( regular price ) with currently a decent selection, for now. And I have also even found a couple of places that are currently having sales on propelant! Eight lb jugs of 2400 for $110.00 , Eight lb Unique $122.00 Twelve lb of 4759 $150.00 and RX-7 on sale for $16.00 ( not bad ) at a $20.00 per lb saving from list price for the RX-7 alone!ROAD TRIP! For the primers and RX-7 alone!
My local supply has dried up till Aug. on Primers and RX-7 is still up in the air...

[500MAG]

Compared to what you have to pay otherwise, I don't consider it gouging and will be placing an order. Thanks for he link.

[mac60]

I guess I should consider myself lucky. On Jan. 18th I got an e-mail from Brownell's saying they had Rem. 9 1/2 lr primers in stock for $29.95. I jumped on it and ordered 5k. Their website continued to list them as in stock for several days thereafter, but then they went out of stock. I just got my shipping notification yesterday. I don't shoot as much as a lot of y'all so 5k will hold me for a while. Huzzah!

[Wis. Tom]

Anyone know if it is legal to transport primers and powder back over from the Canadian border?

[gkainz]

I stood in line for 45 minutes at sportsmans warehouse yesterday as they unloaded the delivery truck. Limit 1 box per SKU per customer for primers but price is still $31.99/1k - the only choices for brands was "take it or leave it"

[mazo kid]

I got 1000 SP primers at Recob's Target store in Prairie du Sac, Wi. last Sat for $28.25. Limit was the 1000. Wanted to try a couple of different pistol powders, but they were out of stock.

[mac60]

Anyone know if it is legal to transport primers and powder back over from the Canadian border?

My bet would be a big NO!

[jcwit]

Hey, the guy's only trying to make an honest living with the standard retail mark up as all do in the retail industry!

[S&W-629]

i just got some SP for $34.00/1000 or thay had them at $4.00/100 for CCI

[1845greyhounds]

On Jan 19, I visited Bruno's and bought 5k Fed No. 100 SP primers for $44.95/k (gag). When I bought them, I overheard them talking about the 1M primer delivery they had just received... Today Bruno's has the same Fed No. 100 SP primers listed for 54.95/k. It would seem that they raised the price because they could.

[1845greyhounds]

i just got some SP for $34.00/1000 or thay had them at $4.00/100 for CCI

Where?

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I paid $36.99 per 1K yesterday for WIN WSR's at my small time gunsmith store, where I'm working on a deal for a custom Jap38 rechambered for 6.5x55 swede. He also have reloaded 223 with Horn 50gr. v-max box of 50 for $38.
Jon

[Hardcast416taylor]

I paid $36.99 per 1K yesterday for WIN WSR's at my small time gunsmith store, where I'm working on a deal for a custom Jap38 rechambered for 6.5x55 swede. He also have reloaded 223 with Horn 50gr. v-max box of 50 for $38.
Jon

That`s the price per 1K of primers that William`s Gunshop in Davison here in Mich. was charging back in Dec. and before, the store is owned by a consortium of Doctors in a large local hospital chain. Haven`t been in their store since early Jan. so can`t say what the prices are now.Robert

[357maximum]

I know of at least one primer maker that never once raised their prices, not one copper coated zinc penny during the last "craz" and I suspect they have not this time....all the extra $$ is being made by middlemen/shop owners profiting on paranoia. Do not fall for the hype. shoot a little less if you have to and wait til the stupidity calms down a bit then STOCK UP with those places that were not ****** gunowners. I am not one to denounce capitalism, but I am not going to single handedly finance it either, and those that simply put the screws to people because they can...well they do not need anymore of my money ...ever again.

[khmer6]

I really like brunos. They aleays have had great prices. I would buy kegs if powder from them. They priced match a chrony for my on their website, seemed like the wrong price. What primer maker you speak of? Wolf? I have used tens of thousands of wolf with great sucess. But never used small spistol which is what I hear the issue was with. I just use sr or srm in my pistols

[shooter93]

Knowing Bruno's my bet would be they did pay dearly for them from a distributor so they had something for their customer base.

[jnovotny]

I just bought a 1000 large pistol primers at the local gunshow, for 35 dollars. May go try to find another thousand tomorrow.

[roverboy]

Small rifle primers is what I can't find. Most of the websites don't have any, and the stores locally don't either, unless you want to pay double. I was gonna buy about a thousand but, they were priced at $5.00 a hundred. A lot of the powders are out of stock too. People have went completely apecrazy.

[AviatorTroy]

I was bored today so I got on my motorcycle and went on a fact finding mission as they say in DC.

1st up, large national chain sporting goods store. No reloading supplies left, period

2nd, large gun store, largest in local area. (Mostly caters to black rifle and plastic pistol types) Lots of powder on shelves! No primers. Bought 2 pounds.

3rd, very small local gun shop. No powder, lots of ammo, and low and behold, plenty of primers! Bought 1000 each sr, lr, and lp. 40$/box which isn't the cheapest but not bad considering the madness.

4th, another very small local mom and pop gunshop. Limited powder, and did have a few boxes of primers.

So they are around.

[drklynoon]

I did the rounds today as well. I found LR and LP primers and some powder. I was looking for SP primers and came up empty. I did ask the guy at Academy if they had any reloading equipment or supplies and the dude told me that they don't carry it because it hurts ammo sales. Needless to say I won't frequent an establishment that works that way.

[khmer6]

They are around. 4 years ago and more frequently it is always small pistol you can never find, plenty of everything else. Today its hard to find anything. I stopped buying small pistol some time ago and switxhed over to srp or srm

[XWrench3]

yes, that is the case in many shops. to me, it is the easy way to tell the difference between a business man who runs a gun store, and an enthusiast who runs a gun store. personally, i would much rather deal with an enthusiast than a business man.

[Circuit Rider]

PK, PM inbound. CR

[tawastom]

Ive been paying $33.95 @1000 LR primers in Michigan, good store, no mail order though.

[tawastom]

That`s the price per 1K of primers that William`s Gunshop in Davison here in Mich. was charging back in Dec. and before, the store is owned by a consortium of Doctors in a large local hospital chain. Haven`t been in their store since early Jan. so can`t say what the prices are now.Robert

hardcast, ok I think then Michigan is probably ok on the primers, the store I mentioned in my reply is in Standish, so its a pretty good spread of miles between them.

[Huskerguy]

I was in a LGS yesterday and we were just talking about primers. He didn't have a huge supply and I asked if the wholesale prices have changed and he said NO. I see Powder Valley still has the same prices as well so that tells me there is gouging on the end - but only if you are willing to pay for them.

[mazo kid]

Today I was in Prairie du Sac and went over to Recob's Target Shop; they still had some SP primers at $28.29/1K so got a box. The limit is 1K primers and 4# of powder (if they have it). They were all out of any AA powders!

[P.K.]

PK, PM inbound. CR

Returned. Thanks.

[BCB]

Sometimes your “brother” can be your worst enemy…

As soon as the gun control issue was discussed with the newly re-elected president, prices went through the ceiling…

The people who raised the price ABSOLUTELY TOOK ADVANTATE OF THE POLITICS IN CONTROL…

I wonder if sometimes they don’t sort of look forward to such political animosity…

But the people who are taking ADVANTAGE are the ones that display the 2nd Amendment posters and they are vehemently advocates of no gun control at all…

Hell, they are controlling it themselves by making things so damn high priced that we can’t afford it…

Money is money to these people and that is what they do. They will use whatever tactic to rip-off fellow shooters—period…

Notice that as soon as the news says the price of gasoline might rise, for whatever reason, the local stations immediately tack on a nickel or whatever…

As Randy Newman said, “It’s money that matters, hear what I say!”…

One should remember who was selling the reloading components and firearms at high prices just as soon as there was an excuse to do so…

I know I will…

And so it goes...BCB

[Sparky141]

I was at a gunshow in Cambridge Ohio yesterday and a dealer there had plenty of primers and powder . their prices were $30/1000 for CCI or Winchester primers limit of 2000 , and $20 - 23 for powder . When the show closed Sunday they still had some left and I saw alot go out the door in customers hands .
I have a good stock at the house but I picked up 2000 LP just for good measures . When I got home a good friend called in dire need of some so I let him have them .

[Randy C]

I go in and out of local gun stores every week looking at supply’s here almost everything stays sold out when they get bullets or reloading supply in they don’t last long. I don’t have any SP or SR It will be hard to reload without them. I just received my RCBS PRO 2000 press in this sucks.

[bcr]

Ok, I'm going to get myself flamed here, but I think all of us who claim to believe in private property need to understand this: there is no such thing as price gouging. Prices are set by supply and demand. I believe along with the rest of you that my paycheck belongs to me. A corollary that perhaps we don't like is that means if I want to pay $40 or $400 for a box of primers, that is my business and absolutely no one else's. Consumers set prices, not producers. I own a rental property. Every time it's vacant, my property manager asks me what I want the rent to be. Every time, I tell him I want to get $1,000,000 per month for it. Am I price gouging? Of course not. No one's going to pay it because renters bidding against one another determine what the market prices are. But if I want to insist on $1,000,000, and let it sit vacant, that's my business. Heck, if someone comes along who is willing to pay $1,000,000 for a 3 BR house, that's their business. There is a run on guns and reloading equipment because people perceive (accurately or not is irrelevant), that they will not be able to get these things at today's prices. So they allocate more of their paychecks toward guns and reloading equipment and less toward other things that they would normally buy. I respect the guys that try to keep their prices the same, and I don't disrespect the guys that raise their prices to whatever someone is willing to pay for them. Personally, I like to buy mine when the craziness wears off, but (again, personally) I would rather see half a shelf of primers for $60/box than an empty shelf of primers for $29/box.

[wantoutofca]

It's price gouging when you have a captive audience and take advantage of them. Our local supermarkets were charging 2x what they should have when Walmart came in. One dropped their price the other didn't and if they go under it serves them right (they could go to half of Wally World and I wouldn't shop there). Our gas stations were $.75 higher a gallon than either town on either side of us. The funny thing was that the gas trucks had to drive through our town in the way to these (same truck). When the state was called in to investigate prices magically equalized. When there are primers at one shop for 30 and the other for 50 it's called gouging. I know our LGS owner and he does not do this. I know his prices from the chain have not changed. I have worked at gun shops before and know how the game is played. It's gouging pure and simple.

[RayinNH]

I just got one package of Fiocchi large rifle yesterday at a local gun shop. I paid $36.99, not bad because they are packed 1500 to the brick. They had no small pistol or rifle or large pistol...Ray

[bcr]

It's price gouging when you have a captive audience and take advantage of them. Our local supermarkets were charging 2x what they should have when Walmart came in. One dropped their price the other didn't and if they go under it serves them right (they could go to half of Wally World and I wouldn't shop there). Our gas stations were $.75 higher a gallon than either town on either side of us. The funny thing was that the gas trucks had to drive through our town in the way to these (same truck). When the state was called in to investigate prices magically equalized. When there are primers at one shop for 30 and the other for 50 it's called gouging. I know our LGS owner and he does not do this. I know his prices from the chain have not changed. I have worked at gun shops before and know how the game is played. It's gouging pure and simple.

OK, I guess you do not believe in private property then. Since I do believe in private property, I believe that I have the right to sell the box of SP primers in my reloading bench for $10,000 if I want to. Can you explain why with the "captive audience" I have, for some inexplicable reason, been unable to sell my box of SP primers for $10,000? How do you think primers should be allocated during a run like this if not by the highest bidder? Should we add a "primer czar" in Washington to our catalog of wise overlords so that they can benevolently make sure everybody gets their "fair share" of primers? What sets prices during non-run times? Come to think of it, $29 a box is price gouging, pure and simple. Primers should be $15 a box, regardless of size or brand, because it's so blatantly obvious that they're only worth $15. Bloody gougers trying to screw me all the time charging $29 a box, and then when a Democrat gets reelected, it's even worse! And curse those other consumers and, worst of all, hoarders, who have decided to allocate more of their own paychecks than I am willing to pay, and then get more than their fair share.

:kidding:

[wantoutofca]

You are not getting my point. In a free market you can charge whatever you want and yes I believe that firmly. However, there is a difference between a healthy profit and gouging. Gouging is a question of morality. There are places charging $200 for once fired .223 that they are (theoretically as I can't see their books) paying the same price for as when they charged $95. Free market? Yes. Every right to do it? Yes. Gouging? Yes. I am sure prices will normalize and I can assure you these places will not get my business. Is that free market? Yes. And I'm doing it because they are currently gouging.

Getting all you can because you can with no regard for others is not right no matter how you look at it, however legal it may be.

[GerryM]

Pats reloading had some CCI benchrest primers in stock , They too have raised their price.

[angus6]

Been doing this long enough to know to keep atleast 1 election term a head on supplies so I don't have a issue of what places are charging if they limit purchases, in fact it some what helps to get items in to more peoples hands

BUT what I have taken an issue with is last go a round the LGS put all their primers on GB as they got them instead of taking care of the local guys that keep them a float, haven't bought a thing from them sinces even though it never effected me

[troyboy]

They are only charging what some people will pay. I just won't buy. What someone else does is their business. One needs to plan ahead so he does not have to pay inflated market prices.

[novalty]

Well I think one factor that isn't being taken into consideration is that a lot of the inventory that flew off the shelf in the past month was to re-sellers. So out of curiosity I checked GB this morning, and this is what I found.

There were 79 auctions for "small pistol primers" on GB currently. Quickly adding it up in my head I came to over 272,000 small pistol or small pistol magnum primers.

There were 127 auctions for "small rifle primers" on GB as well. Quickly adding up in my head I came to over 237,000 primers.

Yeah the prices are crazy. Imagine if people who were looking actually maintained the will-power not to buy anything for 2 weeks...or a month on sites like GB. What do you think would happen to the prices?

[Griz44mag]

My next to last backorder from Powder Valley arrived via FEDEX today. 62# of powder and primers. CCI primers for 26.00/thousand, assorted powders in 8# jugs at 17-22 per pound. You don't get gouged when you order in bulk, and order in a timely manner.
When the next box arrives in about two weeks, I won't worry about reloading supplies until the lib-tard socialist in office is gone, and beyond the person who replaces him.

Best advice was given months ago, we all knew what was going to happen. Chance favors the prepared. It's not a guarantee, buts it's better than empty wishes.

[rmark]

Paid $38 for 1000 small pistol primers at the small shop nearby.

I've noticed a few complaints about gouging on the armslist ammo/reloading ads. It's those higher prices that has folks digging around in the back of their closets for ammo they no longer need and now its worth the trouble to sell.

[km101]

ROAD TRIP! For the primers and RX-7 alone!
My local supply has dried up till Aug. on Primers and RX-7 is still up in the air...


Same here PK! I may have to visit my son in Seattle. :) But could we get them back across the border? Dont know about inport rules/duties on Hazmat. And then I'd have to ship them to Texas. May not be workable. :(

[rasto]

I am really scared what I am reading about. I am happy for the first time (according component prices) that I am living in Europe and still can buy 1000pcs SPP (Fiocchi) for 20 bucks.
I am crossing fingers upon your BAN etc related to non real president.

[Griz44mag]

I am crossing fingers upon your BAN etc related to non real president.
Why is it that folks from Slovakia can see through this socialist **** but our own younger generation citizens cannot?
Thank you rasto.

[Gliden07]

One of the LGS up here had them for $49.99 thought it was to much and left!!

[oldtoolsniper]

By low and sell high. You make your money when you buy it. That being said I have been to many auctions and watched people buy used and as is where is things for more than the same thing new in the box cost. You pay for your education no matter what you are being educated on.

As for Gouging or selling it to the highest bidder, well that is capitalism. If you think it is to much vote with your wallet and walk away. If you think it should be regulated in any way than I would assume you voted for and support all of the restrictions being imposed on us now to keep everything fair.

You get it one way or the other. No one ever said life was fair. I'll take free choice over "Regulated Fairness" imposed on me in any way shape or form.

You can't just regulate fairness on the things that effect you. If you support that then we need to regulate everything for everybody.

They have a word for that........

[451whitworth]

My next to last backorder from Powder Valley arrived via FEDEX today. 62# of powder and primers. CCI primers for 26.00/thousand, assorted powders in 8# jugs at 17-22 per pound. You don't get gouged when you order in bulk, and order in a timely manner.
When the next box arrives in about two weeks, I won't worry about reloading supplies until the lib-tard socialist in office is gone, and beyond the person who replaces him.

Best advice was given months ago, we all knew what was going to happen. Chance favors the prepared. It's not a guarantee, buts it's better than empty wishes.
Griz44mag,
don't you see you are hoarding at the expense of other people?:kidding:

[.30/30 Guy]

I went into the local gun shop yesterday. The shelves were full of large pistol primers and a good supply of large rifle primers. The primers were priced at $36 up from $30 pre panic. Not a single small primer of any type in sight.

[PB234]

I have no problem with them asking high prices for primers. Better that they ask high prices and some are available at some price to anyone rather than selling them cheap and having them end up all being sold to someone who just putd them on their shelf keeping others from enjoying shooting even if it costs a few dollars more.

I read 4 million firearms were sold last December. If each of these new buyers wants 100 rounds of ammo to go with the firearm we can just forget about finding much factory ammo on the shelf for a long time.

I am glad that they are charging enough to maintain an inventory and keeping hoarders from emptying the shelves and ruining our sport even if it means I spend an extra few dollars every time I go to the range. It costs me about $30 in gasoline just to get to the range and back. Another few dollars is not going to change things much. No primers and the distance to the range doesn't matter.

[ROGER4314]

The primer prices in the OP were shocking! Of course, our local Houston Gun shop has a large primer shelf that is absolutely empty. There is not ONE primer of any brand, size or type (including 209 shotgun primers) in stock!

Flash

[KCcactus]

That's how free markets work. If he increases his price and people still buy, he makes more. If enough people don't buy, he either lowers his price or goes out of business.

Would I buy primers now at that price? No way. I would shop somewhere else and wait for a better price to be in stock. But, not everyone feels the same. We'll see
what happens.

[BillP]

I was at a gun show in Melbourne, Florida this morning. There was only one box of 1000 large pistol primers available with an $80 price tag. There wasn't another primer to be seen at the show. Last fall I paid $28 per 1000 at this show.

bp

[David2011]

Bcr: Should we add a "primer czar" in Washington to our catalog of wise overlords so that they can benevolently make sure everybody gets their "fair share" of primers?
David: The wealthy would of course be entitled to fewer and the poor would get more, to be fair.

Roger4314: The primer prices in the OP were shocking!
David: Cheaper than at the gun show I attended yesterday. Most sizes were available but at $60/K plus tax.

The gun show opened Thursday night and the power vendors said they had a good supply when it opened. Since it's a two hour drive from where I live I couldn't go until the weekend so most of what I would have purchased was sold out. I was able to buy a pound of 231 and a 4 lb jug of Titegroup (at an average price of $24.40/lb with tax) so will be able to shoot the IPSC matches in the area this year. Overall, powder prices were ordinary. Only primers were high. I'm still hoping to find some Win748 and H4895 in the next few months. My .223 works so well with 748 that I hate to even try anything else. The .22-250 and 6.5x55 are both very accurate with H4895 so again, I am reluctant to experiment. I have other powders that will work and I may find that they are as good or better than my current preferences. I'll spend more time expeimenting with BL-2C, Varget, 3031 and 4064 where appropriate.

One vendor had AR lower parts kits for $175, but after 3 days he still had plenty. These were the small parts kits without a stock and buffer parts. Commercially reloaded .223 wih V-max bullets was a buck a round.

I'll weather this one; just might have to use different powders.

David

[daniel lawecki]

Powder Valley has large pistol mag primers and large riflemag primers only they Tula $21.50 25.00 per 1000. I've been using these for 2yrs. Stashed my CCI for a later date.

[dagunnut]

The gun show I was at this weekend had a lot of the same vendors as the show 3 weeks ago. The gun prices were up $100 from the previous show. No powder and only 4 boxes of WLP primers at $50/1000. Lots of black guns walking into the show the cheapest I saw was $1200 but they are not selling. I guy had a table of 20rnd Thermold mags at $50 a mag, I had to take a picture of the price tag. Needless to say he didn't move a mag all weekend. I only saw one box of bullets a box of old Speer 30 cal 150grn J-words for $35. Some tables had little baggies of 22 shells maybe 50rnds for $6. Prices across the board were high. I swear every Tom, Dick, and Harry cleaned out the closet and spare part drawer to try and make a buck with the junk.

[TheDoctor]

Stopped by a local shop yesterday. Only small pistol they had was Federal small pistol magnum. $4.79 per hundred, limit 200 per customer per day. They seem to get them in once a week, and are sold out in hours. Guess that's not too bad a price compared to what I've seen them going for on the local adds, but since you will be lucky to get 2 boxes per week...... Have seen local individuals selling trying to sell them for $80.00+ per brick, $50.00+ per pound of powder.

[remy3424]

Quit buying these things until the frenzy is over!!!! I find it hard to believe that as many people who are on this thread don't have at least a 2 years supply of primers on hand after seeing what happened after Obama was elected 4 years ago. Buying now is just extending the current situation. It took almost 2 years then for prices and store inventories to return to normal...(the military might have been helping the shortage then also)...To me it makes little sence to build inventory at these prices guys. Rant over.

[TheDoctor]

Well, I normally would not buy SP primers at todays availability/prices. But, what was an adequate supply has turned into an inadequate supply. I only had one handgun that was small enough for SP. Now my wife has three. One gun that I did not shoot much, and three that she shoots a lot. All three acquired within the past six months. Situations change! Still fat on rifle and LP, but SP, I need. Like someone said, should have stocked up on gas when it was $.99 a gallon, then you shouldn't complain about the current price. You never know how much is an adequate supply. If you did, it means you can predict the future.

[I'll Make Mine]

I was in Gander Mountain the other day looking for .22 LR (nothing but shot caps and CB Shorts, plus a few .17 HMR), and noticed that they had primers (the last time I asked I was told they don't carry any reloading stuff except one press starter kit -- no components at all). Okay, 209 primers and various "clean burn" variants for inline muzzle loaders, I could see (they do carry black powder substitutes in powder and pellets, and both sabot and full bore muzzle loader bullets); I gather a few of the inlines use a large rifle primer instead of a shotgun type, and with certain BP substitutes a large rifle magnum might be preferred -- but why would they have large pistol if they "don't carry reloading components"? The only reasons I could think of were either for inlines that take large rifle, but for one reason or another have too weak a strike to reliably pop rifle primers, or that it was a purchasing error.

No, didn't buy any of the pistol variety (these were at Gander's usual pre-panic prices, around $3-$4 a flat or $30-ish for a box of 1000), but I did grab a couple flats of Large Rifle -- eventually, I'll have the bits together to load for my Mosin Nagant (got molds and lead, brass isn't too hard to find if you're willing to pay, locally available powder of the right variety may be the issue).

[ROGER4314]

With the craziness in our leadership and the volatility of the component and ammo market, this shortage was absolutely predictable.

Last year, I stocked up when the political climate was mellow. It isn't that I wanted to be a "hoarder" and I'm not posting this to gloat but I'm retired and all I do is play with guns, ride motorcycles and bicycles, and go to movies. If the component market tanked, I'd need to learn Knitting! So....I stocked up. It was looking like all that was unnecessary.................until Sandy Hook.

.22LR began to dry up and we had months of notice of what would come. A brick of .22LR is almost a fantasy today. Did you buy when we got the first hints that .22LR was going to tank?

We can learn from this experience. When things are mellow....buy supplies. That's why we cut fire wood in the warm months. We know that winter will come.

12 gauge shotgun shells are still plentiful and cheap but 20 gauge and 410 are less common, now. That's about the only ammo that's available right now. That should be a clear sign pointing out the next shortage.

Flash

[MostlyOnThePaper]

As far as I'm concerned $60 a brick is major price gouging. The store closest to me went up $2 on Remington LP since I last bought them 2 months ago. They have a much reduced stock but have not started with the epic prices. When they do I will be re-reading the primer rebuilding post I saw here awhile back using cap gun caps. Bruno's wasn't on my radar before, I don't order primers online because of the hazmat fee, but they don't sound like a place I want to do business with. I am similarly unlikely to buy anything from Cheaper Than Dirt ever again, a day or two after the panic started the Korean M1 Carbine mags that had been $8 went to $30. Can't post my thought on that.

Randy

[GT27]

I'll be shooting pellet guns mostly, and 22's sporadically for the next 3 years,they can cram them for the prices they want now...