410 shotshell reloadable hulls

[Andrew Mason]

so.

i have developed a home brew way similar to the lee hand loader to reload my own .410 shells.


however, i am not sure on what hulls are the best for reloading.

i would prefer to reload 3" shells,
but i also have some 2.5'' that i might as well do as well.

i have some estate shells, and some Remington nitro golds.


are these good shells to use?
i did some reading that says Winchester super-x .410 hulls are good,
but i am seriously considering some magtech brass shells, or even reloading the russian golden bear shells that are brass plated steel.

if i go with either the of the brass or steel/brass shells i will adapt them to use 209 primers for ease of reloading.

thank you for reading.
andrew mason

[jmort]

Sounds like you are crimping and if so go for the skived. If roll crimping get unskived. I would get 3" high brass and then cut them down when worn out and use them as 2 1/2"
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/410-hulls/products/199/

[Andrew Mason]

thank you, those are very afordable hull prices.

yes, my plan was to crimp the shells, and then cut down and reuse as they wear down.

but i am serriously considering the idea of a roll crimper.

whats the major advantages of each?

[jmsj]

Andrew,
A while back I started a similar thread. Many suggestions for hulls but none were readily available. The suppliers that listed Winchester and Remington fired hulls and new hulls were all back ordered.
I found that Graf's had new Chedditte (2-1/2" and 3") hulls for about what they were charging for fired Win. and Rem. hulls and no waiting. Using these hulls I taught the kids to load their own .410 shells on a MEC 600 under my supervision. We loaded up 500 of these and have not cycled through them yet to see how they hold up to reloading.
Just a thought.
Good luck, jmsj

[Andrew Mason]

jmsj

i have thought about the chedditte hulls, but i have heard about the plastic seperating from the brass base, and that has me worried.

i was thinking of the fiocchi hulls, they are only $1 more for 100

[jmort]

"i was thinking of the fiocchi hulls, they are only $1 more for 100"

I would too. Roll crimp less pressure. Need overshot card - loads look cool

[jmsj]

I would have bought Fiocchis too but at the time all that was available anywhere were the Cheddittes. I use Fiocchi hulls in all my slug loads and I know they are good.
jmsj

[Andrew Mason]

i have yet to find a recepie that lists the chedditte hulls or fiocchi.

i think i may just buy some winchester HS hulls,
and mabe some of the Russian brown bear shells.

[jimb16]

With Cheddittes, I use 14.5 gr WC820 with a Windjammer wad and 1/2 oz #9s for skeet. WAA primers. Dirty, but they shoot well.

[Andrew Mason]

is that for a 2.5" or 3"
im trying for 3" shells
id like to load 3/4oz of shot

[JIMinPHX]

I fooled around with loading .410 a few years ago. I found that the Winchester HS hulls were the best by far, like 5 or 10 times better than anything else in .410. I also found out that .410 hulls vary dimensionally by quite a bit from brand to brand. The loading dies that worked well with one brand of hull did not work well with another brand.

[jimb16]

That is for the 2.5 inch hulls.

[Andrew Mason]

oh okay

right now im doing a basic load of 12 grains of 2400 with 1/2 oz of shot in a Remington gold nitro hull.
i have not yet shot them.
as of this point, i am getting crimps that are "okay"
i am definatly thinking of getting one of the star shape crimp starter tools, and also a roll crimping tool.

either way, i see the metal 410 shells being the end solution, but for now, its just going to be a order of 100 plastics
to last and slowly buying more and more of the metal ones.

[725]

In a pinch, you can use .444 Marlin rifle brass for .410 shells. Over cards glued in when loaded.

[Andrew Mason]

i have read about the .444 marlin brass, and i looked at all my stores around here...none.
if i could happen across some, but if im going to go online to get it, im getting 3"

[Tao77]

Good info is here.
http://www.endtimesreport.com/410reloading.html