Favorite reduced loads

[ez4545]

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What is your favorite reduced load?

The ones you would put together for rifle or revolver?

Bill

[DanWalker]

6.5 grains of Red Dot under a 250 grain keith boolit, in a 45LC.
I shoot a thousand or so per year of this load.

[Buckshot]

..............45-70, 12.0 Unique and either the Lyman 292 FNPB or the RCBS 300gr FNGC.

30-06 is 8.0 SR7625 and the Lee C309-113F

357 is 3.0 W231 and most any 140 to 158 WC or SWC.

...............Buckshot

[725]

.45-70 or .458 Win Mag -- .457 roundball & 9 gr Unique It's a real zipper, resonably accurate (enough for rabbits and coons), and quiet.

[jonk]

11 gr of Red Dot in basically any military cartridge of the 30 cal class with bullets up to 200 gr.

[MT Chambers]

19.5 grs. of 4759 with 180-205gr. cast gc bullet in the .308 Win.

[felix]

My Standard Loads, where typical means start one grain lower than shown:

32WS is 30-33 of any of the H335/WC844 variants with the one and only RCBS 170 grainer.
35Rem is 38-40 of any of the H335/WC844 variants with any of the 180 grainer boolits.
308W is 23.0 VeeVee-N120 and the Lee C309-113F.
22-250 is 15.0 VeeVee-N110, or 19.0 VeeVee-N120 and the Lyman 225646.
222 is 9.0 BlueDot, or VeeVee-N105 and the Lyman 225646.
357Mag is 13.0 WC820 or 13.0 AA-9, any boolit/bullet at or less than 165 grains.
44Mag is 19.5 WC820 typical or 18.5 AA-9 for any boolit/bullet at or less than 250 grains.
41Mag is 17.5 WC820 typical for any of the 220-230 Keith types.
45Colt is a case full of RL7 or WC680 with any boolit heavier than 300 grains with zero compression, boolit just touching powder. This is NOT a cowboy load.

... felix

[Ron in PA]

11.5 grs. of 820 with 115 gr. RCBS cast gc boolit in the M1 Carbine. Ron

[sundog]

30-06 - 20-22/4227 and just about any GC'd 165-200 grainer
35 Whelan - 38-40/4895 or 40-42/4064 and 358009 (not really a reduced load)
6.5x55 - 17.0/4227 and Ly 150 grainer (don't recall the #)
32 Win Spl - what Felix said
308 Win - 4895 and 311041 and push it as hard as accuracy allows
30-30 - 16.0/4227 and 311041 (this is a very mild shooting and accurate load)
.357 Mag - 10.0/HS7 and 358156 (nice medium load)
35 Rem - 4895 and the RSBS 35-200-FN (you pick the charge/fps)
44 Mag or 44 Spl - any of the Grn Dot cowboy loads (I prefer Lee 200 RF for the light loads)

[Old Ironsights]

5gr BP or Sub under Farina and a 180gr pure lead boolit in .38 or .357... though I may try 1gr Titegroup next...

[Boomer Mikey]

357 Magnum 4 grains TiteGroup and any 158-160 grain cast bullet (cowboy load)
357 Magnum 15 grains H110 and 170 Sierra JHC, 13-15 grains H110 and any 180 -200 grain cast bullet [Federal 205 primers] (full power loads)
375 Win./38-55 23-25 grains H4198 255 grain cast bullet.
44 Magnum 6.4 grains TiteGroup and any 240 grain cast bullet (cowboy load)
45-70 25 grains H4198 & RCBS 45-325-FN-U Plain Base

[NVcurmudgeon]

Most of my rifle CB loads could be called "reduced," being in the 1400-1800 fps muzzle velocitiy range. To avoid redundancy, I'll list only one greatly reduced load. Rifle and revolver .44 Magnum load: 7.0 gr. Green Dot/RCBS 245 PB SWC. This load is very accurate in a S&W 8 3/8" M629, mv 950. It also shoots about as good as any load in a Marlin Cowboy 24", mv 1200.

[Ben]

30 - 06 Springfield
11.5 grs. Unique
Cast bullet 160 - 200 grs. in weight.

Always an accurate load in all 06's I've shot it in.

Ben

[Uncle Grinch]

This thread needs a sticky...

[frugal]

7.62 x 39 311466 13.0 WC820
7.62 x 54R 311334 21.0 IMR4198
7.5 x 55 311291U 18.0 SR4759
6.5 X 55 266469 14.0 WC820
303 British 311334 17.0 IMR4227
30-06 311299 21.0 IMR4198
7.62 X 25 3118 7.3 WC820
44 special 429421 4.0 Bullseye

Been trying to perfect these for a while, all are accurate for me.
Frugal

[SharpsShooter]

45-70 43gr IMR 4064 w/405gr CB = 1400fps
30-40 23gr IMR 4198 w/ 208gr CB = 1700fps


Both are deadly accurate and recoil is mild.


SS

[1Shirt]

457124 over 26 gr. 2400 in 45-70
375449 over 15 gr. RD in 375H&H
250 Lee over 15 gr. RD in 375H&H
311291 over 22 gr. 2400 in O6
311284 over 22 gr. 2400 in O6
311332&311644 over 21 gr. 2400 in 06
311359 over 20 gr. 2400 in 308
311359 over 13 gr. RD in 308 & 06
358429 over 12 gr. 2400 in 357, Rifle
1Shirt!:coffee:

[4570guy]

All brass: Rem
All primers: CCI200
Groups were shot from the bench w/ forearm rest.

Marlin 1895 .45-70 -- 23 gr SR-4759 + 340 gr Lee cast from straight WW -- shot as cast; MV = 1265 fps; SD = 8 fps; GS = 3.0 in @ 150 yds (Williams aperture sight)

Model 1898 .30-40 Krag -- 19 gr SR-4759 + Lee C312-185-1R cast from straight WW + gas check; sized .313; MV = 1691 fps; SD = 6 fps; GS = 0.8 in @ 50 yds (military peep sight)

Soon to come -- .303 British in Savage/Enfield #4 Mk1*

[Larry Gibson]

Most all previous posted loads appear to be "avorite cast boolit loads" to me(?). I consider "reduced loads" to be those that take cast (or jacketed bullets) to less velocity than normally used. Most often my reduced loads are in the bottom end of velocities for any given cartridge/firearm combination, usually in the 750 to 1100 fps range. E.G.; 2.7-3.2 gr (depending on case capacity) of Bullseye under a 90 gr cast or Hornady swaged SWC .31 cal bullet in .30/.31 caliber cartriges. Also in .30/.31 calibers with 150-180 gr cast boolits 6-8 gr of Bullseye for 1050-1100 fps. My reduced load for the 45-70 is a 275 gr Rapine bullet over 8 gr of Bullseye for 1050 fps or a 210 gr HB Rapine bullet over 6 gr of Bullseye for 950-1000 fps. For handguns and example would be my reduced load in the .44 Magnum, a 240-250 gr SWC over 5 gr of Bullseye for 700 fps. I've numerous other "reduced" loads for other cartridges also, most use Bullseye powder. "Whisper loads" also use Bullseye powder and velocities of those are 250-550 fps.

Larry Gibson

[sledgehammer]

30/06 : 311284 over 13gr. SR7625
41 spcl : Lee 210 SWC over 6.5gr. Trail Boss
222 : 55 JSP over 10gr. Blue Dot (I know, I know!)
357 : 158 SWC over 5gr. Red Dot
[smilie=1: still looking for one for my Karlina W/170gr....
303 brit: Lee 200GC over 10gr. SR7625

[West Creek]

My Favorite are as follows:

45 colt reduced - 200 RFNP over 231 or Red Dot in the 750-800 fps range.
45 Colt - 250 WFN at 800 FPS is anice shootin all day load and VERY accurate out to 60 yards

32-40 - 14 grain of 4227 under a 170 LFN from Veral gives 1385 fps in my 1893 marlin and shoots 1.5" at 100 yards with original buckhorn and Williams Bead. 15.3 grain of 4198 does even better with nicer groups but I weigh each of those. 4227 meters nicely and easy to load to provide nice plinkin shootin with excellent accuracy to limit my desire to measure each load.

45acp and 5grain of bullseye under a 200 SWC is my favorite load - sooner or later I'll have my shootin facility done enough I can cast up some of the modified BD45s to try.

[quack1]

My favorites- all shoot pretty well in my guns.

357- 358271 13gr/2400 ; 4gr/bullseye
358429 6gr/herco ; 3.8gr/PB

30-06- 311291 19gr/4198 ; 16gr/5744 ; 16gr/2400

35Rem- 358430 8.5gr/herco ; 11gr/2400 ; 15gr/4227

45-70- 457121,457198,Lee 457340f 22gr/2400

9x18 Makarov- Lee 365-95-1r 4.2gr/unique ; 6.2gr/HS-6

[AZ-Stew]

.357 Mag. 358429 3.5 Bullseye

.41 Mag. 410459 6.7 SR7625 ~900-950 fps

.45 Colt 452424 8.0 Unique

.223 Rem. Hornady 50gr SX 6.0 SR7625 ~1800 fps (Bolt action load. Very accurate.)

Regards,

Stew

[357maximum]

Pick a light charge of an alliant shotgun powder and pick a few light wadcutters for the 38 j frames..normally greendot..I have lots of it.

I do not download any other pistols

I only shoot one cast rifle with "reduced" charges, everything else is shot just like them red pills at full throttle.

35 rem 1953 marlin 336RC Straight stock

9.0 700X over a cci 200 and under a 357446, and shot in match prepped:roll: range brass or oddlot brass. never chronied it, lyman claims just above 1400....
all I know is that all boolits seek the same hole at 50yards, and like to form tight "schools" at 100, and still has "ENOUGH" to knock fourlegged furballs into their next life.

[EMC45]

11 gr. Unique under a 160 gr. Lee GCRN in .308 (kicks like .22 mag and clocks at 1500 fps)

3 gr. Bullseye under a Lee 158 gr. RFN

[pinshooter]

For .38 spl., 1.8 gr WST under any 148 gr WC. Great for indoor PPC (50 ft.). Recoil like a .22 lr. Great for teaching a new shooter. Not so good for outdoor PPC (50 yds.) but if the target backers are thick enough you can salvage your boolits without having to bend over!

A while back, (before I started casting) someone gave me half a coffee can of 110 gr. wc, lubed & covered with dirt. Being thrifty (read CHEAP) I cleaned off the lube and re-lubed with liquid earwax and loaded over the same 1.8 gr. Accurate enough at 50 ft. and recoil was less than a .22. But after around 50 rds. the chambers were so crudded up that loaded rounds had to be pushed in. Looked like not enough pressure with the 110 gr. load to swell up the case. Fired cases showed soot for about half their length where they are clean with the 148 gr. load.

[scb]

Reduced loads for my Springfield 1898 Krag rifle
10 gr. Unique
311284
Shoots into about 3" at 200 yds.

[Marlin Junky]

Has anyone tried WC-820 in the Whelen with 250+ grain boolits? I was also thinking about trying 35 grains of AA2200 under a 260 grain SWC in the Whelen.

MJ

[JSH]

30-20 BF
Lyman 31141/ 3.0 of bullseye

I have a friend with a 35 Whelan. He is using 7383 and a Lyman 204. Not really reduced, but shoots very well , at or below 1" at 100.

Jeff

[8mmFan]

Just a quick thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. I had never used Bullseye for reduced loads before. In my Yugo Mauser 8x57, my young sons and I tried 2.5g and 3.0 of bullseye behind the Lee 175g RN. It was a blast, pardon the pun! I didn’t chrono the load, but the 3.0g load drove the bullets completely through a semi-rotted 8-inch diameter piece of maple (from the firewood pile) at about twenty feet. We grabbed a different, thicker piece, and turned it end-wise and shot into the cut end of it. After splitting the piece and digging out some of the bullets, we found they’d pentetrated roughly five inches, with no deformation.

The point of it all is that my boys and I had a bunch of fun with an inexpensive load that trains them on the 8x57 and which, when taken to the range and scope adjusted for drop, we can probably use at 150-200 yards for extensive, cheap practice.

Thanks to all, and here’s to all of those that we memorialize on Memorial Day. Thanks to them and those of you who fought alongside them, my sons and I enjoy these rights and freedoms that are virtually unknown elsewhere on the globe. God Bless America, and God Bless the fallen.

Sincerely,

8mmFan

[robg]

7gr true blue 158 gr Lee pb boolit in 357 mag
20gr 2400 Lee 405 g boolit in 45-70
25 g tac 150 grgc boolit 30/30
18gr 2400 under 150/160/180grgc boolit in 308 win

[waco]

19.5 grs. of 4759 with 180-205gr. cast gc bullet in the .308 Win.

This one is hard to beat here! Glad I still have 12-13 pounds of it.

[waco]

165gr RD boolit with 6.2gr Redot in my Savage 340 30-30 shoots real well with no GC and PC boolits.

[BloodyO]

Been searching for a couple of weeks for reduced loads for my 44 magnums and found several and tried these below out so far. I have a couple of powders available so tried some of the loads I had found and can verify they were safe in my pistol:

Ruger Redhawk 4" barrel
Mixed brass, Rem and Starline 44 Mag cases with Lee Factory Crimp Die crimp default OAL
240gr SWC from Acme Bullets - tried both the coated and lubed ones
4.0 gr of Bullseye with Winchester Large Pistol Primer
5.0 gr of Bullseye with Winchester Large Pistol Primer
6.0 gr of Bullseye with Winchester Large Pistol Primer
5.7 gr of HP-38 with Winchester Large Pistol Primer
6.7 gr of HP-38 with Winchester Large Pistol Primer
The 4.0 gr of Bullseye felt like a 380 or 22mag coming out of that Redhawk
None of the loads felt anywhere close to my 357mag Ruger SP101 with 2" barrel. Even the 6.x ones felt like a Ruger LCP 380.