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Rangefinder
12-02-2012, 12:11 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190760208434&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

Anyone have a little light they could shed on this goofy looking bugger?

Guesser
12-02-2012, 12:13 PM
I have a Harvey SC in 45 around here somewhere. Anyone know where to get the zinc washers needed for Harveys?

762 shooter
12-02-2012, 12:20 PM
It's called a HARVEY PROTXBORE boolit.

I have a 44 mag. You are supposed to insert a zinc washer in the bottom slot then pour your lead.

The protuberance at the base of the boolit secures the washer that is .357 diameter.

Another take on a gas check.

I've played around with it a little but never could get the casting rhythm down pat.

Kind of a PITA.

762

Willbird
12-02-2012, 01:20 PM
This was called a Harvey Pro-tex bore ?? I once bought some 38 full wadcutters cast in one, never shot any of them.

http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=24

Lefty SRH
12-02-2012, 01:23 PM
Wow that is odd.

NoZombies
12-02-2012, 01:52 PM
Too bad on the price, that was most likely one of the early factory prototype molds made specifically for Harvey.

PS Paul
12-02-2012, 01:58 PM
You know, I had that very mold on my watch list cuz I've seen 'em go for a LOT more, but I spaced it and failed. Seems like a hassle and the original mfrs. claims were WAY exaggerated, but still a neat piece of history. One claim eas "No lube needed" due to self-lubing zinc washer. Imagine that?

beagle
12-02-2012, 02:15 PM
The Harvey Protex bores are from back in the 60s. Really not that old. I shot some .45s in a DCM M1911A1 back then but wasn't too thrilled with the concept.

Supposedly the zinc washer scrapes any leading out of the bore.

Check CH-4D. I think they may make the washers or a tool that makes them.

Personally, I have found GCs to be more affective./beagle

BCall
12-02-2012, 03:30 PM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?122625-Anyone-want-to-quot-sherardize-quot-their-bore

I've cast a few of them. I have ones in 45, 44, and 357. I have been kind of collecting them. I bought a 45 one with a hollowpoint from another member here a while back, and although I probably paid too much for it, I bought a 358503 Harvey wadcutter mold with a factory HP off ebay not long ago. While Lyman made molds for Harvey, so did H&G. The H&G molds are supposed to be "SFM" or shoot from mold, no sizing needed supposedly. While I have read a fair amount about the Protexbore molds, I have been unable to find much info about the Harvey Jacketed jugular molds and what was used to swage the cast cores to the half-jackets.

There is someone selling zinc washers on ebay, do a search for zinc gas checks. This is the only place I have found them. When I contacted CH4D they said that they no longer had them.

PS Paul
12-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Ahh, Beagle. I got news for ya: for some out there, "made in the '60's" IS old history! (insert chain-pulling icon here) ha-ha!!

762 shooter
12-02-2012, 07:08 PM
I was about to say that.

I think Beagle, myself, and others consider early 1900's to be old.

762


Ahh, Beagle. I got news for ya: for some out there, "made in the '60's" IS old history! (insert chain-pulling icon here) ha-ha!!

Dan Cash
12-02-2012, 09:05 PM
I was about to say that.

I think Beagle, myself, and others consider early 1900's to be old.

762

Early 1900's is not so old when I consider my daily working rifle is a 95 Win. made 1900, a truck pistol is a C96 Mauser made 1905 etc. Old is my Snyder.

MtGun44
12-03-2012, 12:07 AM
Hmmm. I remember the 60s VERY well so it was NOT a long time ago to me. OTOH, if you
are some kid born in, say the 80s [ ;-) ], it would probably seem to be a while back.

:bigsmyl2:

Bill

rintinglen
12-03-2012, 12:54 AM
Actually, I think they date from the 50's, which makes them on the wrong side of 50 years old. Like me. IIRC, Harvey was a gun-smith back east who sort of originated the group buy concept. He had Lyman (never heard of the H&G connection before) make the molds for him, which he advertised in the backs of sporting magazines and sold by mail. Never used one myself but an old timer of my acquaintance told me that the way he used to do it was to insert the washer, close the mold, dip a corner of the mold into the pot for twenty seconds ofr so, then ladle the lead in. Seems slow to me, but I've never done it.

starreloader
12-03-2012, 12:57 AM
Can't say I'm that "old" but I remember shooting rats at the dump in the early 60's. Bought my very first pistol in 63, a war time P-38 for $20 or $25 don't remember which... The late 50's and 60's were a great time for me.

Guesser
12-03-2012, 03:45 PM
I was introduced to casting in the 50's!!!! Anything made in the 60's is not old and that includes Chevelle Super Sports, so there!!!!

beagle
12-03-2012, 11:39 PM
Sorry guys. I keep forgetting some of you guys are "youngsters". I started loading and casting in the late 50s so I've seen a lot of things come and go and take much of it for granted. Sorry./beagle


Ahh, Beagle. I got news for ya: for some out there, "made in the '60's" IS old history! (insert chain-pulling icon here) ha-ha!!

georgewxxx
12-04-2012, 04:47 PM
1957 was when Lyman first listed them in their #41 catalog.