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barrybrice
12-01-2012, 12:22 PM
I have recently received a custom barrel by Bar-Sto for my 9mm Glock 34. As Bar-Sto has stated up front, factory purchased 9mm ammo will fit in their barrels and seat perfectly. I have check and tested this, finding it to be very true. The problem is that I like to cast my only bullets. I have a Lyman 3566337FV 4-cavity mold and they will not seat correctly in the Bar-Sto, not even close. The shape of the cast bullet hits the lands too early. I have a RCBS 9mm-147-FN and it does better but still hits the lands too early and does not seat as good as a factory bullet. I believe that it will work, but I want perfection. Can anyone recommend to me a 4-cavilty mold that is a TRUE round nose factory bullet shape at 124gr or larger.

rexherring
12-01-2012, 12:39 PM
Or you could have a gunsmith do a throat job on the barrel. It probably wouldn't need much.

primersp
12-01-2012, 12:39 PM
the original 9 m/m bullet were tronconique like rcbs 9-124tc ,i use this bullet successfull in cz 75, original po8 and s&w 5906

Shiloh
12-01-2012, 01:10 PM
Or you could have a gunsmith do a throat job on the barrel. It probably wouldn't need much.

+1
Send a couple of dummy rounds with it for a perfect fit.

Shiloh

40Super
12-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Why not just seat the bullet deeper in the case(shorter oal) and use the molds you have? Just about any 9mm boolet can be seated to work in any 9mm barrel. Book oals are not "the law" make them to what works in your gun and adjust powder charge accordingly.

A reamed deeper throat is nice if it is short to begin with but not alway neccessary..

deltaenterprizes
12-02-2012, 09:52 AM
Try some Magma 9 mm 125 gr RN

reloader28
12-02-2012, 11:18 AM
40Super is right.
Seat them a little deeper and save your money. You have to go by YOUR gun.

williamwaco
12-02-2012, 07:03 PM
I really like this one:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/366607/lee-2-cavity-bullet-mold-tl356-124-tc-9mm-luger-38-super-380-acp-356-diameter-124-grain-tumble-lube-truncated-cone

It feeds perfectly in all my 9mms and is deadly accurate in the .357 Mag.

runfiverun
12-03-2012, 02:05 AM
the magma 124 is really close to speer 124 fmj in profile they will lube size too.
i use the magma 125 rnfp for the 38 special with an oal of .995 they feed and fire in my 2 9's.
the 124 9m boolit will too, but eh,,, i like the rnfp.

Jason30-30
12-03-2012, 03:36 AM
I would go with Lymans 121 grains version of the 358242 it feeds in all of my 9's ,a 38 super & works in 38/357 mag too.

jameslovesjammie
12-03-2012, 04:33 AM
It is not uncommon to have to seat deeper in the case. 9mm's are all over the map as far as OAL is concerned. I shoot a CZ, and it has the "short, European" 9mm chamber. Not a big deal. I just seat to the length the CHAMBER dictates and work up my load data just like I would with any other cartridge.

Cherokee
12-03-2012, 11:57 AM
356402 Lyman is the classic for 9mm and works great in all I have tried it in, and it can be accurate. Second for me is the Lee 6 cv 356120 TC. I have loaded different 147 gr CB's and know the problem you mention. I seated deeper and reduced the powder charge, then worked up new loads. The Lee 6 cv 356-125-2R round nose also works for me but is not as accurate.

mdi
12-03-2012, 12:42 PM
Why not just seat the bullet deeper in the case(shorter oal) and use the molds you have? Just about any 9mm boolet can be seated to work in any 9mm barrel. Book oals are not "the law" make them to what works in your gun and adjust powder charge accordingly.

A reamed deeper throat is nice if it is short to begin with but not alway neccessary..
Agree. How much deeper must the bullet be seated? With starting loads, seating depth can be deeper than manual listed OAL. Perhaps a chamber cast to see excactly what your chamber deminsions are.

Nocturnal Stumblebutt
12-03-2012, 01:08 PM
I completely agree with Cherokee, since you are in a trial and error phase right now, try Lee's 356 125 2R, or 356 120 TC, if it doesn't work you are out $20, and if it does work, you can drop $40 for the 6 cav. I have heard very good things about the 356 120 TC, and it feeds very reliably, although personally I like Lee's 358-125-RF for 9mm, but that is because I size to .357 for factory barrels.

barrybrice
12-03-2012, 05:00 PM
I have done some further adjusting on my seating dia and added a Redding crimp die to the mix. The two photos will show my progress. Is my OAL getting too small? Is the case depth in the barrel acceptable?

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40Super
12-03-2012, 09:36 PM
Nope it's not too short . Depth in the barrel looks good, but to know for sure it is good you should be able to turn the round in the barrel while trying to lightly be pushing the round in further. That would tell you for sure the bullet is not hitting the rifling. When I'm finding my oal for a bullet I will gradually seat deeper a few thousanth's, then try in barrel, and repeat till I can twist the round in the barrel and it falls out of the chamber freely.

barrybrice
12-03-2012, 10:04 PM
I appreciate the advise 40Super, I will give that a try.

And thank you to everyone who has been providing feedback.

rodsvet
12-03-2012, 10:24 PM
I use the Saeco #924. It'd 124 gr. SWC with gas check. Works in 9, 357 Sig., and .357 mag. Enjoy! Rod

fcvan
12-03-2012, 10:50 PM
I've run the Lee 356-125 2R for over 25 years. With range scrap mine weigh about 125.5 and measure .359 in diameter. Through every 9mm I've had or shot they've worked great. I size to .358. This year, I bought the 356-120 TC which weighs 125 and measures .3585 which I also size to .358. I've had great accuracy with my Glock 22 Nd 23 (40 S&W with Lone Wolf conversion barrels) in my Marlin Camp Carbine, and a Taurus 709 Slim. I've also been running them lately with plain based gas checks. The only time I've had problems with the 9mm was when I tried sizing them to .357 and they key holed like there was no tomorrow. Back to .358 for me!