311299 ?

[Digger]

Just a question ... does the 311299 mold drop at around .312 or so ? ... depending on the alloy of course .
thanks , digger

[sundog]

That would be wishful thinking. It depends. Do not depend on Lyman moulds for size or round.

I cast this past weekend with an NOE 314299 4 cav (recent group buy), and let me tell you. It is one of the best moulds I have ever worked with. Bullets dropped from all 4 cavities at .315/.305, round, and 204 grains. Consistent.

Find an NOE 312299, or 314299 if that trips your trigger.

Sounds like an endorsement for [ Made in USA ] NOE moulds, eh? Yeah, I'll get more of them.

[leadman]

I have an older 311299 that casts a little over .312". It is not for sale.

[runfiverun]

i could tell you about my older 314299 mold that makes 314x304.
but i can't add anything to corky's post.
other than.
if i could buy a 311299 mold that made 311x300 [i'd settle for ish from lyman right now] cast from ww's and a little tin i'd have one.

[Baja_Traveler]

I just measured a sample 6 from the several hundred I cast a few weeks ago - they mic out at a consistent .310 with good concentricity - this is also an older lyman mold...

[Digger]

Quandary here ..... slugged my bore , .. garand , 308 ,,,, measured .310 in the groove ...:roll:

[I'll Make Mine]

Simple solution: Beagle. Get a .309 mold, and shim between the faces just a tiny bit (.002 to .003) -- Lee Precision actually suggests cigarette paper (thin side of the range) or plain typing/copy paper (thick side), held in place by a thin coat, on the face only (kept away from the cavities) of the same lube you use to lube sprue plate, pivots, and so forth.

[fouronesix]

One thing to keep in mind- The nose diameter is as important as the shank diameter for this style of bore rider. You can have a shank as large over groove diameter as you want or will chamber but if the nose is smaller than bore diameter chances are pretty good the bullet won't shoot very well.

[Digger]

Looking at Swede's website ... he doesn't have any 311299's available , ... Lyman is a roll of the dice ......
Would the next size up be to much to size down to a .311 or .312 ?

[fouronesix]

I don't know if the xxx299 styles are the best for the Garand (but some shooters use them with success in the Garand). I've found no problems in sizing the 314299 down to the normal range of 30 cal groove sizes. The 314299 sized down to .310 to .312 has been the best bullet for my 03 and 03A3s. Again, don't overlook the nose diameter in the "best bullet" equation. The nose should lightly engrave into the lands for most accurate performance. But, if the nose is too fat then it may interfere with best, interference free chambering in auto loaders like the Garand.

[Bullshop]

Noses that are too large in diameter to chamber freely can be sized to a perfect fit.
There has been much discussion here about nose sizing over the years.
Nose sizing dies are available from some vendors here.

[Tazman1602]

Don't wait a year or more for a group buy Digger:

http://www.accuratemolds.com/order.php

Current turnaround is a month according to website and he will cut it where you want it.........

Art



Looking at Swede's website ... he doesn't have any 311299's available , ... Lyman is a roll of the dice ......
Would the next size up be to much to size down to a .311 or .312 ?

[Digger]

Want to say thank you to all you gentlemen for your input , .. it will help me a lot on which way to go .
thanks Tazman .... forgot about Accurate molds ... nice selection to chose from.
Plus it's great to see you back in the forums here Bullshop , hope things are going well.

[quasi]

NOE made a run of 312299's

[Digger]

NOE made a run of 312299's

Just got a note back from him.. not in stock until next spring ...:(
but thank you for the thought ....

[Larry Gibson]

311299 should cast at .311 at a minimum with the right alloys. Mine also drops at .312 - .313.

Larry Gibson

[Digger]

Will go ahead and give it a go there Mr. Gibson ...... have three different types available , WW , STWW , range lead and about 70 lbs of radiator shop solder ...
Hopefully , with that , I can come up with the right combination ,

digger

[stocker]

I have an old Ideal single cavity marked 311299. It drops a bit bigger than .314 and works like a champ in my 303 Brit. Until I cleaned the crud off this mould so I could actually read the numbers I had assumed it was a 314299. Not so. There seems to be a lot of variance in these moulds.

[madsenshooter]

Could be you got one that was cut with a new cherry. I don't imagine the cherries lasted long cutting iron. I had a 308329 at one time, it cast .313" on the bands. Didn't appear that it had been worked on. Yea, lot of variance.

[Jack Stanley]

I have a newer 314299 that is undersize and casts at just over .312" . It's nose is just the right size for rifles like the 1903A3 that have seen some use . Oddly enough this mold even makes round bullets i didn't think Lyman did that much anymore .

A much older 311299 casts at just over .315" so I use that one for my thirty-one caliber rifles .The down side if the nose is still small for the thirty caliber bores so I have to run it slow .

Jack

[Digger]

Okay gentlemen .... now we know what I will be doing over Thanksgiving (besides eating turkey !)
Will be trying out a new Lyman 311299 that just came in the mail today ..... here we go ......

[Larry Gibson]

Will go ahead and give it a go there Mr. Gibson ...... have three different types available , WW , STWW , range lead and about 70 lbs of radiator shop solder ...
Hopefully , with that , I can come up with the right combination ,

digger

Add 2% tin to the COWWs and try that alloy. I cast it at 725 degrees and let the bullets AC for 7 - 10 days be fore use for max BHN which should be 14 - 17.

Larry Gibson

[single shot jimmy]

Just a question ... does the 311299 mold drop at around .312 or so ? ... depending on the alloy of course .
thanks , digger

I would not waste my time on Lyman. I bought a 311299 recently. Dropped bullets .002 undersized on the nose and bands. Called lyman to complain, mailed the mold back to them, my cost, including a note specifically mentioning the problem. Also included half a dozen undersized bullets cast with the mold.

They sent me a new mold that drops at .0025 to .003 small. Almost .001 out of round. Recite said "replaced defective mold with new". So the new mold was slightly worse? What a poorly run company.

I am finished with lyman. About to just toss this 311299 mold in the trash. Could sell it on ebay but that would be unethical. Can't imagine trying to lap a full .003 from a steel mold. Doubt it would shoot well if I did. This was going in a match Krag rifle.

Going strictly to RCBS molds or trying some of the others mentioned here. I can not imagine lyman being in the mold business much longer. Sad to see an old company being run into the ground like this.

[hicard]

single shot jimmy. I am looking for a .300 nose 311299. If this is what your nose measures, would you be interested in selling it?

[stocker]

Last night I took a minute to measure the noses of boolits cast from the old Ideal 311299 which casts body diameter a bit larger than .314. Nose diameters are .305 which goes a long way to explain why my Ruger #1 303 Brit. loves these boolits. Throat in the rifle is large/long enough to allow seating to the crimp groove. Once into the rifling these boolits get nose engraving by the rifling as the bore is .303.