JonB_in_Glencoe
10-31-2012, 06:19 PM
My Patmarlin 41 cal. PB checkmaker arrived today :holysheep
SO I gave it a go !
first I cast up some NOE 41 cal. Keith 210gr. HP with a soft alloy.
I used some range scrap that's about 8 BHN according to my Lee tester.
My plan is to use a real soft alloy, then have a gas check installed so
I can drive it much faster/hotter (for MAX expansion) then I normally
could with that alloy in a plain based boolit.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/NOE41KeithHP.jpg
I set up my LCC press on the stand...so I could stand. It seemed a natural
for cutting disks, since I'm always leaning over and upward to see inside
the top of the cutter die to allign the strip of alum. above the cutter.
edited:
I had a member contact me on my experience cutting the disks,
asking if I had an issue with the Punch "grabbing" the popcan strip.
as you could see, I used .004" coke can material.
yes the punch does grab the popcan strip somewhat.
While, I did NOT polish the the punch, I did use a q-tip to
apply a light coat of gun oil on the punch as well as the inside of the die
in the area of the slot. I repeat this q-tip/oil treatment
every couple of alum strips (about 20 disks punched).
That seemed to help alot. I learned that from my
other patmarlin checkmakers (30 cal and 35 cal)
AND yes this larger size does grab the thin popcan
strip more than my others.
I did figure out another little trick.
when lowering the ram/punch (this is when it grabs the strip).
I jiggle the press handle quickly as it lowers the punch,
quickly enough so it's almost vibrating.
I really only had a hard time with the grabing on the
first and second punch of the strip. Out of the 10 strips
I punched, I had 3 where I had to jank out the strip on
the second punch, trim in with scissors and start again.
ALSO, after the punch has been lowered, I pull the strip back
about 1/4" and bump it with the punch to straighten the front end out,
then I push the strip ahead that 1/4" plus another 1/4" and
bump it again to straighten the back end out.
Then it's near perfect and the strip slides anyway I want.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/punchingdisks.jpg
forming the checks is the easiest part of making the checks
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/formingdisks.jpg
after I sized/crimped a few,
I learned quickly, if I wasn't careful, they'd go on crooked.
I chose to chamfer the top of my .411 lyman lubesizer die.
That made it simple and trouble free to insert the checked boolit.
Once that was done, crimping/sizing/lubing was as simple as sizing/lubing
plain base boolits without a check.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/checkinstalled.jpg
SO I gave it a go !
first I cast up some NOE 41 cal. Keith 210gr. HP with a soft alloy.
I used some range scrap that's about 8 BHN according to my Lee tester.
My plan is to use a real soft alloy, then have a gas check installed so
I can drive it much faster/hotter (for MAX expansion) then I normally
could with that alloy in a plain based boolit.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/NOE41KeithHP.jpg
I set up my LCC press on the stand...so I could stand. It seemed a natural
for cutting disks, since I'm always leaning over and upward to see inside
the top of the cutter die to allign the strip of alum. above the cutter.
edited:
I had a member contact me on my experience cutting the disks,
asking if I had an issue with the Punch "grabbing" the popcan strip.
as you could see, I used .004" coke can material.
yes the punch does grab the popcan strip somewhat.
While, I did NOT polish the the punch, I did use a q-tip to
apply a light coat of gun oil on the punch as well as the inside of the die
in the area of the slot. I repeat this q-tip/oil treatment
every couple of alum strips (about 20 disks punched).
That seemed to help alot. I learned that from my
other patmarlin checkmakers (30 cal and 35 cal)
AND yes this larger size does grab the thin popcan
strip more than my others.
I did figure out another little trick.
when lowering the ram/punch (this is when it grabs the strip).
I jiggle the press handle quickly as it lowers the punch,
quickly enough so it's almost vibrating.
I really only had a hard time with the grabing on the
first and second punch of the strip. Out of the 10 strips
I punched, I had 3 where I had to jank out the strip on
the second punch, trim in with scissors and start again.
ALSO, after the punch has been lowered, I pull the strip back
about 1/4" and bump it with the punch to straighten the front end out,
then I push the strip ahead that 1/4" plus another 1/4" and
bump it again to straighten the back end out.
Then it's near perfect and the strip slides anyway I want.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/punchingdisks.jpg
forming the checks is the easiest part of making the checks
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/formingdisks.jpg
after I sized/crimped a few,
I learned quickly, if I wasn't careful, they'd go on crooked.
I chose to chamfer the top of my .411 lyman lubesizer die.
That made it simple and trouble free to insert the checked boolit.
Once that was done, crimping/sizing/lubing was as simple as sizing/lubing
plain base boolits without a check.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu127/JonB_in_Glencoe/checkinstalled.jpg