German Engineering - Wich Molds

[schraubermani]

Hello Folks,

ever heard of Molds manufactured from Klaus Wich in Frankfurt?
Sadly he's died a few years ago, but his FANTASTIC molds will live on forever!
The qualitiy is compareable to H&G at least. Even better.
Should you ever have the chance to catch one of these...........DO IT!!!
You won't regret!!

But take a look:

http://www10.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/8abre9cx6igs.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665726/P1000424.jpg.html)

http://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/w5bws9n3n11.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665731/P1000426.jpg.html)

http://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/lwqkvxq2q4a4.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665735/P1000427.jpg.html)

http://www10.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/ro1c5kvvfwi2.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665740/P1000428.jpg.html)

http://www10.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/ck4q82oxc66.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665742/P1000429.jpg.html)

http://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.12/wrrc3b8pgsrm.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-16665750/P1000433.jpg.html)

[theperfessor]

Interesting handle hinge arrangement and the molds look good also.

Edit to add: just noticed how sprue plate " trough" is cut. Another different take on things.

[Andrew Mason]

beautiful molds.

those are the only words i can think of

[.22-10-45]

Interesting "spot -facing" around sprue holes to allow metal to puddle for adequate shrinkage feeding.

[Buckshot]

.............Nice looking moulds for sure. Was he well known in Germany as a mould maker?

..............Buckshot

[schraubermani]

Hello Buckshot,

yes, he was quite well known. Almost a legend.
His molds are designed that they keep the heat, they are quite flat and during casting i have to coll them down many times.
They close perfectly, no matter at what temperature you cast and the surfaces of the bullets are very nice.
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wich357170grz5ruqnbcwf.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wich501430grvwel8pa4or.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

[MT Chambers]

Was his brother Sam Wich??

[schraubermani]

Oh........never heard of him. But i don't think so.

[Blammer]

LOL, Sam Wich..... samwich.... sandwich... get it, sandwich

cousins were peanutbutter and Jelly.

Yes very good looking moulds! I see you have a collection of them!

What is going rate for them?

[Artful]

schraubermani, nice collection, never seen one before, very interesting

[Lance Boyle]

Those molds just beam with quality! thanks for sharing the photos.

[schraubermani]

Hello,

the going rate in Germany for Wich molds ...............that's the same like the H&G molds in America.
When you are lucky, you can get a 4-cav. mold incl. handles for about 60€.
But they aren't sold very often, who has one keeps it.
I bought the molds at EGUN.de in a package for 500€
Eleven molds incl. handles.
From 9mm-.45-.357-.405-.500-.504-.433-.475
Most of them gaschecked, but that's ok.
Although i do not often shoot GC-bullets, but i have a small business and sell the bullets.

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4044278

I was so happy about that deal i had to let you know......................
But i also own 3 or four old H&G molds..........also 8 and 10 cav.
I love them too, they cast very very awesome bullets and i wouldn't sell the H&G molds for a lot of money.

[9.3X62AL]

Superb tooling, for certain. 500 euros for 11 sets of such quality--with handles onboard--is a GREAT price, too.

[Hamish]

theperfessor noted the handles, I for one would like to see how they go together, looks like a very precise way to do it.

schraubermani, the last picture in post 6, what are those please? I notice the lube grooves are very small compared to western style grooves.

Opened the link schraubermani posted. eGun, the marketplace for hunter, shooter, and angler. Neat site. I notice that "vintage" becomes "ancient" when translated.:bigsmyl2:

Speaking of shallow lube grooves: (paper patch?)

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4093272

[schraubermani]

Hello,

the bullets in the last picture in post #6 are .504-430grs. GC for the 500 S&W Revolver.
They were photographed before sizing, lubing and seating the gas check.
I do not own a 500 S&W, maybe a friend of mine allows me to shoot my bullets with his .500
The bullets are casted with 20 HBN, this should work for semi-hard powerful loads, i suppose.
Casting is like an addiction, if i haven't casted for a few days, something's missing.
This month i will travel to Slovenia to pick up a used ballisticast casting machine and
an automatic magma sizing machine.
Mark2 and Mark5
The sizing machine has a broken motor, i hope i can fix it or find an other motor to replace it.
Ballisticast doesn't answer my requests concerning the motor. By the way...........are the sizing dies for the Mark V the same as for the Star sizing machine?
Or where can i order sizing dies for the machine, except Magma?

Best regards,
Manuel

[cajun shooter]

They may not answer because those type of items that have to do with bullet making are no longer able to be sold outside the US.
Germany has a lot of Muslims IIRC just like we do and they don't want to give them any sources for bullet making.

[1874Sharps]

Schraubermani,

Sie sind ganz sehr schoen!

[mactool]

They may not answer because those type of items that have to do with bullet making are no longer able to be sold outside the US.
Germany has a lot of Muslims IIRC just like we do and they don't want to give them any sources for bullet making.

Is that really true. The ITAR regulation 121, catagory 3, section 3. specifically excempts equipment for handloading. So in that regard there is no restriction, but how the regulation is in the gun control act, I dont know.
I would ask the ther department of state, Directorate of defence trade controls DDTCResponseTeam@state.gov

[Hamish]

Schraubermani,

Sie sind ganz sehr schoen!

Translation: You are very very beautiful

Uh, I'm all for making the new guy welcome, but,,,,,,,,,:holysheep

[GLL]

Could you please provide another close-up photo looking straight down on the sprue plate?

Jerry

[1874Sharps]

Hamish,

It also translates as "They are entirely very pretty".

[schraubermani]

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/p1000448tz9wv7ypqk.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

[Horace]

Schraubermani

Thank you for the picture.

Horace

[Casting Timmy]

I like how he did the mold handles the sprue plates.

Thanks for sharing the pics with us

[Freightman]

Beautiful moulds, German engineering has always went the extra step, and the maker of those knew what he was doing. Welcome!

[Hamish]

Hamish,

It also translates as "They are entirely very pretty".

:bigsmyl2: I figured my lackluster translation skills had finally failed me!

schraubermani, did Wich make his handles too, or are they made by another company?

[schraubermani]

Hello,

you're welcome. It is always very nice to be with like-minded people.
So, now it's 4 o'clock in the afternoon and i have to visit my casting room to make beautiful .45 HG#68 SWC's with an even more beautiful 8-cav. H&G mold.

Have a nice weekend,

Manuel

[MikeS]

Those are some amazing looking moulds. I'm just surprised that they don't have at least 10 extra parts on them. It was once said that German engineering would use 1000 parts to make a machine that was 98% efficient, where Americans would make a machine with 100 parts that was 96% efficient! :)

[fatnhappy]

Hamish,

It also translates as "They are entirely very pretty".

Er hat recht.