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Onit12345
10-21-2012, 09:07 PM
Recently got my new cannon from Scale Artillery aka ClassicCannons. Looks great, great work! Building the carriage now

MajorDude
10-21-2012, 09:10 PM
Most excellent! Please post progress!

Southern Son
10-22-2012, 05:04 AM
mate,
that looks really cool.

Onit12345
10-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Im just stuck on what to do with the finish of the cannon, was thinking leave it natural, paint it black or get it nickel plated. What do u think?

boltons75
10-22-2012, 09:57 AM
That thing looks awesome the way it is, looks like stainless? If it is, I'd leave it as is.

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EMC45
10-22-2012, 05:04 PM
Leave as is and let it "gently" patina.

Oreo
10-22-2012, 06:04 PM
What's the bore size? What's it made of? Hard to tell from the pic. How much that cost? 'Cause I want it's twin brother. You got a real sweat canon there man.

scb
10-22-2012, 06:09 PM
Leave as is and let it "gently" patina.

That would be my choice. Or get one of the barrel browning kits for muzzle loaders to get a head start.

helice
10-22-2012, 07:17 PM
What you gonna hunt with it?[smilie=l::veryconfu

Onit12345
10-22-2012, 08:18 PM
It's made from steel, think 1040 I forget, the bore is 1", length 18", you'll have to contact http://www.scaleartillery.com if you want a price or ClassicCannons on this site he's a sponsor

Onit12345
10-22-2012, 08:35 PM
What you gonna hunt with it?[smilie=l::veryconfu


Lol you'll be surprised people actually do

LUCKYDAWG13
10-22-2012, 08:47 PM
What you gonna hunt with it?[smilie=l::veryconfu



what cant he :bigsmyl2:

Onit12345
10-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Some photos, starting of the carriage

Hardcast416taylor
10-23-2012, 08:15 PM
For the projectiles this minature deck gun will fire. Will it be a golf ball thrower or lead or zinc round balls? Give us a hint on the barrel cost. Nice looking project. Robert

Oreo
10-23-2012, 08:17 PM
With a 1" bore it won't be golf balls. Not sure if there's any off-the-shelf option for projectiles. Maybe pinballs?

Onit12345
10-23-2012, 09:39 PM
For the projectiles this minature deck gun will fire. Will it be a golf ball thrower or lead or zinc round balls? Give us a hint on the barrel cost. Nice looking project. Robert


I'm getting a mold to make 1" lead/zinc balls, for now I have 1" steel balls and also just firing it without any projectiles for noise. The cost is listed for $600 on the builders web site

Moonie
10-24-2012, 02:36 PM
you guys are evil, now I want a golf ball cannon...

ClassicCannons
10-24-2012, 08:28 PM
After these order i got going i'll have a Golf-Ball Howitzer she'll be 1/4 scale and aprox 18" by 3.5 or 4" dia i'll know more in a week. I'd like it about the same size as the 1820's 12 pdr and weigh about 30-40 or more pounds.

But in the meantime i got a Auction for the forum for a Nice 1.750 dia Napoleon Barrel so bid on her and get your project going so you can post some picture here 8-)8-)

All the fund go to the Forum to pay for the servers and what ever fee's that are needed to keep the Forum going

Thanks Austin

fouronesix
10-24-2012, 09:53 PM
What you gonna hunt with it?[smilie=l::veryconfu

Mounted on a rail gimbal, that thing would be just right for pirates.

I too would leave finish as is and let it age gracefully.

JIMinPHX
10-24-2012, 10:35 PM
Somebody on the board was selling 1" round ball molds. I can't remember who.

Edit:
This is not who I was thinking of, but I believe that this company is still in business - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannon-Ball-mold-3-pound-803-palmer-manufacturing-west-newton-PA-used-/271069027517?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1cf91cbd

Edit 2:
Post 5 on this thread looks promising - http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=165036&highlight=cannon

Just Duke
10-25-2012, 12:21 AM
That is some really nice work!
I want a couple full size cannons and need a new project.

Onit12345
10-25-2012, 01:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/t8ctF.jpg

Have any of you tried this?

fouronesix
10-26-2012, 11:16 AM
I have some. It is slow, and a little tricky to use for a really good outcome. If anything, it can be used as an agent to speed up the natural patination process. Seems very sensitive to any oil or contamination on metal. At first you'll notice uneven oxidation forming. It requires patience. Might use it after firing and cleaning for a few times- the oxidized finish then would have time to "even out". Again, might have a use just to speed up the aging process of the surface.

Also, those small cannons just seem to bring out the imagination and kid in some of us :)

Onit12345
10-26-2012, 06:25 PM
Working on the axles today. The cannon builder is gonna be sending me wheels and the cap squares so waiting on them to mount the cannon and finish the axles. Still deciding the finish on the cannon
http://i.imgur.com/jdMqp.jpg

boltons75
10-26-2012, 06:54 PM
With a 1" bore it won't be golf balls. Not sure if there's any off-the-shelf option for projectiles. Maybe pinballs?

How about a jaw breaker, or rubber bouncy ball out off the candy machines?

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fouronesix
10-26-2012, 07:25 PM
If it were mine I'd find or make a mold for a bore sized ball and cast some lead balls. Get some cannon fuse. Find a range with a good tall backstop. Load maybe 50-100gr F blackpowder (starting with something like 50 gr), ram a ball on top, insert the fuse, aim at a large cardboard target in front of the backstop, light the fuse, step well back and to the side- Wooom!

Oh almost forgot!- a tip. Use a large toothpick or even a bamboo skewer as a powder vent pick for inserting the fuse into the powder charge and if fired level or down angle for sure use a little wadding to keep projectile from moving away from the powder.

I know some cannoneers who use small metal cans that are bore size- then melt lead and fill the can or some simply mix a little concrete to fill the can. Makes a very acceptable projectile. The trick is to find the right sized metal cans for the lead or any paper or plastic container for the concrete.

Of course the manufacturer of the cannon should have all the recommended loading info.

JIMinPHX
10-27-2012, 03:04 PM
I think that the board needs a cannon section:kidding:

That aside,
I've run into a few folks shooting a homemade cannon out in the AZ dessert. One thing that I remember being told was the it was better to set them off with a cap & hammer gizmo rather than a fuse, because the time lag of a fuse allowed time for somebody on a dirt bike to show up out of nowhere at just the wrong time. It sounded kind of like an accidental near miss or two may have occurred in the past.

ClassicCannons
10-29-2012, 11:17 PM
Hay Tino
Here's the wheels they are almost done i got to do the holes & bushings tomorrow OK the wood is Oak and is laminated with the grains Cris cross.



I don't have any steel for the rims i thought i had but it was 6" way to big. I can't find the message with what holes you wanted was it 6 or 8 also they are 2 thick by 4.375 dia and dished 1/2"

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/403378_3958424284389_2135104658_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/604055_3958425684424_1549092871_n.jpg

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ClassicCannons
10-30-2012, 12:02 AM
Hay Tino
On your mold it's going to be a duel mold 1 hollow point Bolt/Bullet and 1 round ball I'd like to see the hollow point one have grease rings but i'm unable to do that now without a CNC mill soon I'll have one :roll::roll:

So be a little time on the mold maybe by the end of the week i got a lot of jobs to get done and order some more material too I'll also send along some !/2" rod for the axle's OK

On the mold you can pay what ever you want also

Thanks AUstin


If it were mine I'd find or make a mold for a bore sized ball and cast some lead balls. Get some cannon fuse. Find a range with a good tall backstop. Load maybe 50-100gr F blackpowder (starting with something like 50 gr), ram a ball on top, insert the fuse, aim at a large cardboard target in front of the backstop, light the fuse, step well back and to the side- Wooom!

Oh almost forgot!- a tip. Use a large toothpick or even a bamboo skewer as a powder vent pick for inserting the fuse into the powder charge and if fired level or down angle for sure use a little wadding to keep projectile from moving away from the powder.

I know some cannoneers who use small metal cans that are bore size- then melt lead and fill the can or some simply mix a little concrete to fill the can. Makes a very acceptable projectile. The trick is to find the right sized metal cans for the lead or any paper or plastic container for the concrete.

Of course the manufacturer of the cannon should have all the recommended loading info.

Onit12345
11-07-2012, 09:00 PM
Photo of a ramrod I made and pieces of the carriage drying

http://i.imgur.com/ySDGS.jpg

Onit12345
11-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Side of the carriage drying, just need to put a coat of wax

http://i.imgur.com/c30EU.jpg

Onit12345
11-07-2012, 09:06 PM
I first stained the wood with walnut stain then 5 coats of dark walnut Danish oil from watco, first time using this oil we'll see what it looks like when fully dried. Then I'm gonna put a coat of minwax finishing wax.

ClassicCannons
11-07-2012, 11:14 PM
Great work on the carriage can't wait till you get the wheels on i wish i had sent some brackets for the 1/2" axial now but i didn't know how you were doing it

Again Great job

Also i had tested the barrel with 1,500 grains with a ball load but 600-800 for a ball load or 1,250 - 1,400 with out a ball load should be good for you. At the 1,500 with a ball the cannon went back 10-12 feet on the carriage though it was a test and not meant to be the regular powder load.

ClassicCannons
11-09-2012, 01:44 AM
How about a pair of Howitzers 1 3/4 dia by aproz 10-12" i have to do the scale to get the correct scale I'll include the AOP book that has all the measurements and include some of the hardware such as the trunnions the elevation screw sets the oak and the barrel.

If interested PM me thanks Austin


That is some really nice work!
I want a couple full size cannons and need a new project.

ClassicCannons
11-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Here's the layout for the mold for the Cannon Tino

The mold is made from brass and will have 2 cavities one will be a 1" round ball and the other will be a 1.3/4" bolt/bullet with a boat tail (not shown) also it will be a hollow point.



http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/481874_3983529512004_45964913_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/20328_3983467790461_741832381_n.jpg

Onit12345
11-14-2012, 10:27 PM
Looking Great!

ClassicCannons
11-20-2012, 09:24 PM
Here the mold so far i had to wait on a new cutter the one i sent out they ground to much off :veryconfu I wish i didn't have to pay the $68 bucks for their mistake

:evil::evil: But your at their mercy uh :evil::evil:

When you call and complain they only :violin::violin: A long song and dance well a new guy here did your job. Perhaps i should tell people that when I'm late on a item :shock::shock:
weel the bullet weighs 3.5 oz and has a boat tail for better accuracy. Like that matters

Also it has a round ball cavity I'd like o see which does the most damage[smilie=w:

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Onit12345
12-23-2012, 09:58 PM
Some new photos of my build, still working on her

http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/Onit12345/cfd13db3f99cdacdd975b31392ed589b.jpg

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ROGER4314
12-23-2012, 11:42 PM
That is absolutely off the scale on cool! Nice work!

Years ago, I shot cannons with a couple of machinist buddies of mine. I have a small brass barreled .50 caliber cannon but those guys went overboard! One cannon shot a 3000 grain lead cylinder and used motorcycle wheels for the carriage. If you're interested in cannons, you might consider cost of firing them. That cannon with the cycle wheels used many POUNDS of black powder in an afternoon. I saw him hit a big gong at 100 yards and he sent it flying!

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