Promo Powder

[LAH]

Their tech guy is out of the office till June 6th so tell me about this powder. I know it's a shotgun powder but their site says it's for handgun loads also with about the same burning rate as Red Dot. Anyone load it in handguns? Thanks and God Bless......Creeker

[porkchop bob]

From what I have read the new Red Dot is supposed to burn cleaner and the old stock of this powder is being sold under the name of Promo. I have not purchased any of the new Red Dot or Promo and can not vouch for what I have read. Bob

[targetshootr]

That's interesting and might explain why it's cheaper.

[Johnch]

They make Promo out of other powders that don't meet spec ( they don't always admit it )
They do their magic to make it the right burn rate and proper energy by adding either filler or something to add energy

I use it , mainly for shotshell loads
It can be used WEIGHT for weight as you would Red Dot
Not volume for volume

Also it varries , lot to lot WAY more than Red Dot

A old lot I used , compaired to the new lot took up 5 - 10% differance in volume to get the same charge weight
I don't know if the different lots produce different POI when the volume changes

I would check everything when you change lots

John

[LAH]

You guys are a wealth.......Creeker

[Lloyd Smale]

does it meter any better then redot of is it basicaly the same thing.

[LowPE]

I have used red dot for years in pistol: 32 acp, 9mm, 45 acp. For my jug, I use 4.9 grains and 452372; 3.5 grains for Lee 124TL (a round I currently don't use anymore); and a little less than a .3 cc scoop for 32 acp and a 77 grain lead bullet.

It seems to me a little more bulky than the other dots....of which I really only have experience with Blue Dot.

It is very dirty & smokey in 45 acp, and promotes keyholing in 9mm with heavier lead bullets.

Sold only in 8lb jugs and inexpensive.

A solid pistol powder for the price sensitive shooter.

[Johnch]

IMO it meters about the same

I had a early lot that was dense compaired to reddot
My current lot is a litttle bulker than reddot ( I got the case of 4 - 8 lb jugs about July last year )

Also I agree it is a little dirtyer than the current reddot

I have never had any keyholeing problems
But I load pistol ammo to a set velosity
I load a few , walk out the back door and check them over the Cronnie
And ajust as needed

John

[targetshootr]

johnch, were you able to get that info out of someone at their factory? It sounds like stuff they wouldn't want us to know.

[Johnch]

Up to last year , the Grand American Trap shoot was held about 2 1/2 hrs from me , next to Daton , Ohio airport
I shot it for years , never won enough except to paying for gas and shells
But I had fun
After a day of shooting , we would shot the bull with the powder , gun , shell reps at the local watering holes

The year Promo came out , I got to know a Alliant rep pretty well
After a few rounds at the bar , we were talking about Promo
He explained how it was made , much of the tec stuff was way over my head
He also said most powder manufactures recycle the powder that dosn't meet spec .
But they were taking a different aproach

I just wish I would have bought a bunch more at the shoot , if I remember right
8 lb jugs ran $55 or $60 + tax
They were trying to get guys to try it
I spent my check on powder and primers

John

[dltaskey]

I've been using Red Dot load data with Promo for .45 ACP reloads. Chrony agrees with Red Dot data so I'm happy with a cheap replacement for Bullseye. Does seem a bit dirtier though.