RCBS 165 Sil bullet

[JSH]

I think this may have been covered before, but had a brain fart and couldn't recall.
This is a bore rider, so is it worth trying to get Lee to make a 6 banger?
I have not seen anything so I will ask while I am here. A few of you thought there may be another source a college or individual that may have the ability to make some moulds? Have we heard anything?
The mould above a 4C would make me happy but don't want to give up any quality. I am just using too many of these to stay up. Er, should I say sharing feeding some of my 30's with this and couple of friends K31's.
I had bought the Harris 155 GB mould with thoughts on it working well in my K31's, but it doesn't like them near as much as the 165 bore rider.
I did shoot some of the Harris bullets in the Krag yesterday. I am just happy as a Lark as to how it shot yesterday with the Harris 155.
Any input.................?
Jeff

[Lloyd Smale]

if its possible to do id take one for sure.

[buck1]

""RCBS 165 Sil bullet ""
Thats my baby!!! I would take one or even two if $$ permit.
Thats one good bullet in my Competitor pistol (.308 WIN)
That thing will give consistant sub moa @2450ish fps from a 14" tube.

[JSH]

Don't get to gung how fellows, just poking with a stick now. I don't want 6 different bullets out of the 6C. I could settle for two or three but no more than that.
Have not looked, but don't think they do. Is there a 4C from RCBS?
Glad to see the interest in this none the less.
AND, if we get enough to go on a GB, I WILL HONCHO this. With help from all the gurus of course.
Thanks
Jeff

[upperb]

Add my name to the list of those interested!

[Lloyd Smale]

rcbs only makes 2 cavity molds. If you want that bullet in any bigger mold this is about your cheapest bet.

[WKAYE]

JSH,
I would be in for two of these . The cavity to cavity variation on my Lee 6 bangers has been very small. :drinks:

[Johnch]

I would take one

John

[45 2.1]

I've got one drawn up someplace. I'll be able to post it up this wekend if you want.

[JSH]

I would be interested of a pic and some dimensions, to compare against mine.
This may go over as long as Lee or whom ever we could find to make this. I would still like to have a 4C iron block in this.
Thanks again, you do a great job on this board.
Jeff

[45 2.1]

Something for you to look at. 0.311" body, 0.300" nose at ogive, 0.302" nose at taper. More lube capacity, 173 gr. as cast. This is something i've been working on for awhile.

[ron brooks]

Well, I would be interested.

Ron

[Dutch4122]

Nice design 45 2.1 :)

Can think of a couple of my mil-surps that might like that one as well as the .300 Savage.

I'd be in on this design for sure!

[JSH]

45 2.1, is there any way to post the orginal and yours side by side for a reference?

I am going to measure some that dropped from my blocks. I have a couple of guns that are very tight chamberd and at times the RCBS will not chamber, usually somthing with the size of the bullet, my fault.
I had tried the Harris 155GB in several K31's with no luck. I mean I could get them to chamber, but it was hanging way down in the case and accuracy never was on par with the RCBS slug. The Harris 155 did show excelent results in the Krag the first time out, so am hoping the 03 will like it too.
Thanks
Jeff

[45 2.1]

45 2.1, is there any way to post the orginal and yours side by side for a reference?

Original unaltered on top. It works well in all the Swiss rifles i've tried it in, but needs to be bigger for all the rest.

[JSH]

45 2.1 Thank you sir, much appreciated.

A few questions.
What was the reasoning behind your changes of the above?
I would presume to fill the throats a little bettr of most 30 calibers out there. Or so as to align the projectile bettr in the throat.

I kind of feel the way most did on the GB Lee 155 Harris. If it ain't broke don't fix it. But on the same note I could buy another mold same number and end up with somthing a bit different that didn't shoot as well. If the changes to the above will make it a better shooter, or so int theroy I would go fo it as don't see enough there to hurt as long as Lee can do their part.

I was kind of waiting and watching to see if maybe Felix came up with anything more on the people or college I saw him mention on the subject of mold making a while back. I would go a 4C myself as long as the machinist folks do their part.

Any of you fellows that have the "wants" for the above have any input?

If this shows enough interest and we get most everyone on the same page we can go from there as to how soon we want to do this.
Jeff

[felix]

I will talk to the university guys sometime within a couple of months. I have too much going on right now. ... felix

[Lloyd Smale]

anyone else like to see that bullet with a little more meplat? I know most of you guys are just intersted in shooting paper with them but im more intersted in a deer/bear hunting bullet in that weight.

[JSH]

Put the meplat on it and all you have then is the 31141?
Jeff

[Boomer Mikey]

This is my favorite 30 caliber bullet in the original RCBS configuration but my mold doesn't drop bullets large enough for my Ruger 7.62x39 77MKII. I like the small meplat and the higher BC it provides for long range shooting.

The gradual taper from the bore riding section to the body will improve compatibility with many different applications as-well-as improving bearing surface area.

I would love a mold if the bullets will drop at 0.311" - 0.312".

Nice design 45 2.1!

Boomer :Fire:

[45 2.1]

A few questions.
What was the reasoning behind your changes of the above?
I would presume to fill the throats a little bettr of most 30 calibers out there. Or so as to align the projectile bettr in the throat.
The RCBS boolit contacts most of the 30 calibers at the ogive only, not on the front band in my rifles. I wanted a self centering boolit at this point like the Lyman 311672 (which shoots very well in the French rifles).

I kind of feel the way most did on the GB Lee 155 Harris. If it ain't broke don't fix it. These are custom molds, changing things is what this is all about. But on the same note I could buy another mold same number and end up with somthing a bit different that didn't shoot as well. At the same undersize condition also. If the changes to the above will make it a better shooter, or so int theroy I would go fo it as don't see enough there to hurt as long as Lee can do their part. LEE doing their part is always in question in recent times.

[Dutch4122]

I'm most interested in 45 2.1's modified design. Although I will take one six cavity of either when the decision is made.

BTW, who is gonna honcho this thing?

[Boomer Mikey]

I'm most interested in 45 2.1's modified design. Although I will take one six cavity of either when the decision is made.

BTW, who is gonna honcho this thing?

You are!

Boomer
:Fire:

[Dutch4122]

You are!

Boomer
:Fire:

:):):):):)


Well.....................................if it's the 45 2.1 modified design I'll be happy to Honcho the Group Buy if nobody else wants to.

Sound fair?

[45 2.1]

Too funny! :mrgreen: No problem here.

[warriorsociologist]

I'm very interested - this should nicely complement my 312-155-2R

[Boomer Mikey]

Well, my wife is wondering if I need more life insurance as I have all these large envelopes full of envelopes with checks and moneyorders, mailing lists, zip code lists, boolit drawings, and such everywhere.

Besides, I heard Matt volunteer and the 360-180 molds should be here any day now.

Boomer :Fire:

[Dutch4122]

Besides, I heard Matt volunteer.....................................
Boomer :Fire:


The one thing holding me back is the fact that JSH started this ball going and we haven't heard if he's gonna Honcho this thing. I don't want to hijack his idea. So I'm going to wait and see what Jeff decides to do. After all, it was his suggestion. :)

[Boomer Mikey]

I asked 45 2.1 to do something with this bullet last year and he told me to wait until spring. You're right Matt, I see Jeff got this started and he deserves to run it if he wants to...

Sorry Jeff, I should have read the entire thread before my earlier post and I would be happy to work with you.

I would love to see the same treatment done to the RCBS 30-180-SP to complete my 30 cal needs, maybe next spring. I like the smaller meplats; I only hunt steel and I like to take advantage of the higher BC's.

Boomer :Fire:

[Dutch4122]

I would love to see the same treatment done to the RCBS 30-180-SP................................................ ...
Boomer :Fire:

Same here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We'll have to discuss that one further in the future. ;)

[JSH]

Dutch, PM sent.
Jeff

[JSH]

I see there are some that still would like to jump this one up in size a bit. I myself would like to see it stay pretty close to what the RCBS drops at or smaller a bit as one can always make it larger a smidge? My intentions with this are on the lines of the K31 if that makes any sense to you all? I just prefer not to take a 311-312 and drop it back to 308+- 309+.
After looking at the improved version does make good sense. Should also help in theory in my other guns that are digesting the original with good success.
Thanks again 45 2.1.
Jeff

[RU shooter]

I'm interested in this one also looks like a good one for the K31 ,IF this gets rolling is it gonna be a 6 holler or 4 or ?Heck Id be happy with 2 cav.I can only ladle pour so fast!!!

[Sam]

I would like a 6 cavity just like it is.

Sam

[Dutch4122]

Just wanted everybody subscribed to this thread to know that I have started a Group Buy for 45 2.1's modified version of the RCBS 30-165-SIL that he described earlier in this thread.

See the thread titled "Modified 30-165-SIL Group Buy."

TIA,