A fellow told me today.......

[Harter66]

That the new manufactured powders have a finite engineered 1yr shelf life.

Now I know I have a little paranoia,superstitious, conspiracy theory willingness to buy into all sorts of hoopla,but this just sounds like straight up dookey to me.

He told me he was told "the new stuff just goes dead in a year,even the loaded ammo. I bought a bunch of rimfire a yr ago and half of it misfires or doesn't go at all".

I told him "Dad,Hercules told them tagants would make smokeless unstable 15 years ago , now its going to have a shelf life of a year and go dead? Seems like just the opposite would be easier to engineer".

He then asked if it could be done to BP. I know that there is all sorts of physics,chemical engineering that can be done to all kinds of things . I can't even begin to see how this particular rumor could have thought of having a base thread of truth?

[JeffinNZ]

Can't see how that is true. What about military and factory ammo that sits on a shelf?

[mac60]

I don't believe a word of it!

[scarry scarney]

I know officers that carry a couple acouple of boxes in the trunks of their cars, not quite sure how old it gets, but its their extra insurance policy. Where I live, back up could be at least 30 minutes away. Not as bad as some places.

[Jim]

Usually, the first thing I ask about stuff like that is "Where'd you get this information?"

[462]

Rumors and progaganda.

[jcwit]

Isn't there an old saying, Don't blieve everything you hear!, ?

[waksupi]

That just goes to show you that it is still possible to go out in the world, and find someone who is full of hot air. And that they can always find someone who will fall for their story.

[frkelly74]

I heard it on the net .... so it must be true.

[OneSkinnyMass]

Sounds like he sells surplus powders at guns shows

[Gee_Wizz01]

Last time I heard this was around '93 and it was primers that would go inert in a year. Funny I still l have about 5000 of those primers I bought back then, and they all go bang when you pull the trigger.

G

[eric123]

I'm still using a 5-lb keg pf H110 from 1992 and Winchester yellow box primers with wooden trays...

[smokeywolf]

In the movie industry most, if not all rumors were malarkey. With one exception, "there's a layoff coming soon". That was always true.
I have no doubt that the government would like nothing better than to inhibit the American citizens' ability to protect themselves from an over-bearing, out of control, corrupt government. However, for now, this is all just rumors to the populous and wishful thinking to the Libs.

[firefly1957]

Just think about it for a powder to "GO DEAD" it must decompose and this would cause fires and/or noxious gasses being formed.

[x101airborne]

:kidding: Only french military powders go inert after a year. :kidding:

[DCM]

:kidding: Only french military powders go inert after a year. :kidding:

I thought the french military was inert.

[429421Cowboy]

I too had heard this about primers as well, which makes no sense to me! If a primer was going to "go dead" in a year, could we not assume it would be half as strong as normal after 6 months? We all know when a weak primer is used, or the difference between mag and regular primers in how they fire up had to light powders, so wouldn't a 50% weaker primer be useless? Thus, a "time lapse" primer would be pretty much worthless after a month or two without waiting a whole year?
Had never heard the powder rumor but i would suspect somebody hear the powder myth and got a wire crossed in re-telling (SPREADING) that fallacy.
I have a friend that i load with who is even younger than me that came into some old primers that still use a wooden tray, they still all go bang!

[fatnhappy]

your buddy doesn't know much about Murphy or shine-ola

[Harter66]

I figured fairy tails and hokum. I've some Herters H209s that go bang just fine under the Red Dot and Unique in steel kegs marked Hercules w/lots predating disco.

[Harter66]

Just as I suspected, fairy tails and hokum. I too have some Heaters H209s red dot and Unique that predates disco and go bang just fine

[btroj]

Isn't that because George Soros bought all the gun companies thru Cerebrus and now is after the powder companies too?

If we are going to tell tall tales then lets at least make them worthwhile!

[375RUGER]

rumor about shelf life has been around a while. Somebody who sells ammo probably started it to boost sales. I know people who were stocking up a few years ago becasue of this rumor.

[David2011]

Seems like this was something the Obummer administration wanted to implement. IIRC, they wanted cartridge ammunition to have a limited shelf life to reduce the accumulation of ammunition.

I've bought the 500+ count boxes of .22 rimfire ammo that didn't very well too, but since it was new manufacture, I attributed it to quality control (lack thereof).

David

[km101]

I still have some Bullseye in the old square metal can with the metal clamp on lid. It goes bang just fine
!
But the French milityary doesn't have to worry about dead primers or powder! They never fire their weapons!.

[Blacksmith]

If it was true all the ammunition makers would get so many returns they would go out of business. Or they would be sued out of business.

[Alan in Vermont]

I just picked up some military ammo cans that have an expiration date on them as 1095 days from date of acceptance stamp on the can. These are 20mm cans so it's not really "small arms" ammunition and chances are it has something to do with using the oldest ammo first. I doubt it stops going BOOM on day 1096.

[Hickory]

That the new manufactured powders have a finite engineered 1yr shelf life.

Easy solution to this problem,
don't store your powder on a shelf.[smilie=l:

[Gee_Wizz01]

I just picked up some military ammo cans that have an expiration date on them as 1095 days from date of acceptance stamp on the can. These are 20mm cans so it's not really "small arms" ammunition and chances are it has something to do with using the oldest ammo first. I doubt it stops going BOOM on day 1096.

That normally means the ammo gets reinspected after that date. If no corrosion or other iproblems are found, the ammo is certified for reissue.

G

[captaint]

Would you buy powder that expired after one year ?? I know I would not. Not a chance. Therefore, I doubt the truth in the story.. enjoy Mike

[mold maker]

I wonder what Home Land Security will do (next year) with all that ammo they ordered.

[theperfessor]

I can believe that powder stored in an open can and subjected to temperature and humidity changes could have a one year shelf life. Don't believe powder in a sealed can (or loaded ammunition) and held within a reasonable temperature range will deteriorate very quickly, there is enough evidence to the contrary to refute that.

I call BS on this one.

[1Shirt]

I've got a square can of Herco that still goes bang with consistancy. Must be 20 or more years old. Will keep loading a few rounds with it until it is gone just to see how long it is good.
1Shirt!