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RU shooter
09-28-2012, 08:27 AM
I have started looking around for a 357 carbine mainly the Rossi as it's more in line with my budget . Is there any quality difference overall between the newer Rossi braztech that's being made now and the older ones from say 5-10 yrs ago ? Is the twist rate the same on both ? Which is better overall ?

Tim

joec
09-28-2012, 09:58 AM
Based on mine (newer version) in 45 Colt and seeing a few of the Rossi Puma other than the lawyer safety which I removed I would say they are better fit and finished now but both shoot well.

colonelhogan44
09-28-2012, 11:37 AM
I don't know about the twist rate on the older guns, but I've never had trouble with the 1-30 on my newer Rossi.

Calculations on this page show even 180 grain boolits being stable, as long as they are pushed hard.
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

missionary5155
09-29-2012, 05:13 AM
Good morning
If I had the time to wait on an older Interarms import I would head that way... I have one and they are well assembled. My later Rossi is OK but no where near what the Interarms models are.
Mike in ILL

357shooter
09-29-2012, 06:13 AM
I know the older LSI guns were a 1-16 twist and the new Braztech ones are 1-30. The Henry 357's are 1-38, even slower. Just for the sake of comparison.

The slower twist with the long barrel shoots excellent. I would not hesitate to get a new model as soon as one is available. I had a blue 20 inch and really wanted a stainless one. I watched GunsAmerica and GunBroker for 9 months and bough the first one available. It was new in the box, it worked out. I bought both from Robertson Trading on GunsAmerica, they have some listed this morning.

Either way, new or old, there are not many good deals to be had for these guns. There are a few that are overpriced and to be avoided though.

RU shooter
09-29-2012, 09:04 AM
Thanks, I agree with the overpriced statement for sure ,Ive been looking on Gun Broker and its a real eye opener. Im better off cruising the local shops and gun shows along with some of the forums I frequent.

Moondawg
09-29-2012, 09:46 AM
I have a new Braztech (Rossi) 20" carbine in 357 magnum. Fit and finish are good, not great but good, It cost under $500.00 and after putting a spring kit in it and shooting a 100 rounds or so the action is very smooth. It is accurate. The carbine is a good, sturdy, not very fancy, working gun. I am happy with it.

veeman
09-29-2012, 10:05 AM
I have 2 Rossi carbines, both pre safety's. The 44-40 I've had for over 10 years, bought new, had an action job done 1st thing, and have had zero troubles ever. The 357 was bought this spring, had a little trouble with the ejector at first, someone did a bit of kitchen table smithing. Once that was fixed I have had no trouble with it all summer shooting CAS. I think if the bugs are worked out right from the start, Rossi's are great guns for the money. At least its been so for me. BTW, I shoot .428 boolits in mine and prints 1 1/2 groups at 50 yards. I put a full buckhorn Marbles rear sight on it. Love this carbine, it also doesn't have the src ring.

fecmech
09-29-2012, 11:47 AM
I have 2 of the later model Braztec( Taurus) Rossi's, a 20" carbine and 24" rifle both in .357. Both have been trouble free and between the 2 of them somewhere north of 15K rounds. I think it's one of the best lever gun values out on the market.

357shooter
09-29-2012, 01:20 PM
Thanks, I agree with the overpriced statement for sure ,Ive been looking on Gun Broker and its a real eye opener. Im better off cruising the local shops and gun shows along with some of the forums I frequent.The Gunbroker guns aren't the latest Braztech. They are the Pumas. The price of those can be all over the place. The Itialian made ones can be in the 700-800+ range.

There are good prices from Robertson Trading on GunAmerica right now for the Braztech/Rossi's. Cruising the local shows may eventually turn up a gun. The $499 plu $20 shipping for a 20inch SS round barrel is tough to beat. Unless it's gone since this morning. $529 and higher is the usual pricetag that I've seen.

joec
09-29-2012, 01:34 PM
Bud's is selling them NIB in 357 in 20" and 16" lengths blued for $411. Stainless the 20" is $443 and the 16" is $445. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_385/Braztech-Rossi+Rifles/ look down the first page.

357shooter
09-29-2012, 03:32 PM
I always forget to check them. For a long time they didn't have any in stock. $443 for a 20inch round stainless is the best price I've seen. The blue for $411 is tough to beat.

Now if they had a 454 in stock!

Four Fingers of Death
09-30-2012, 09:15 AM
I remember in the 80s a few friends had trouble with the 357s when they started to use hot loads.

The one in my avitar is a 357 and is at least 10 years old, maybe older. It has the folded sheet metal rear sights which I like as they give me a nice flat topped sight. They look like sin unfortunately, but work a treat!

I have a SS 44Mag which I bought in 2005, it is ok, but the sights are awful. Big buckhorn,tiny shallow groove and invisible front brass bead.

We don't get the ones with a safety out here, just the same as my old Winchesters except for the cheesy wood.

dsol
09-30-2012, 10:13 AM
I have a post-safety .357 Rossi, 16inch barrel with large loop. Love it. I have hit hand thrown clay pigeons in the air with it. I would like to shoot 200 grain boolits for bambi season but dont think the slow twist works well for heavier boolits. I have my dad's pre-safety 45 Colt and with some 250 grain flat points, should take care of rogue bambi's just fine.

I need to tear them both down, put refined spring kits in, polish the moving parts and slick them up a bit, but no complaints with either one to this date. Probably several thousand rounds through the .357 and at least a thousand throught the 45.

jmort
09-30-2012, 10:57 AM
I would be happy with a "new" M92 but with the upgrades from Steve's Gunzs
http://store.stevesgunz.com/

357shooter
09-30-2012, 04:12 PM
I did a Steve's Gunz action job on a blue 357 Rossi that was really tight. I bought a later Stainless 20 inch and all it needed was a lighter trigger. The action is really smooth from the factory. So some guns may need a little smoothing, some may not.

superior
10-08-2012, 11:54 AM
I've only handled one in my life. which is a 20" round stainless 45Colt. I couldn't be happier with it. I bought it new in 2011 and it has become my favorite. That's saying a lot
when I consider how much I love my Marlin GG. It shoots and carries like a dream. I feed it Lee 255 and 300 grain pills with terrific accuracy and power to spare. I sometimes use loads that I don't dare try in my Blackhawk 7.5 . All in all, it has very good fit and finish and seems to be a very strong, stout package.

Four Fingers of Death
10-08-2012, 12:00 PM
They are like Chinese food, not long after you get one, you want more, lol

357shooter
10-08-2012, 08:36 PM
I'm thinking a 454 20inch... Just gotta have one some day.

FISH4BUGS
10-08-2012, 09:15 PM
The Interarms era 92's are really a well made gun. Very nice quality and a great shooter. Loves to digest 38 special 160gr lswc (H&G 51) all day long!
Hold out for one of those if you can find them. It is worth paying a bit of a premium for. I did. Don't regret it at all.

Four Fingers of Death
10-08-2012, 10:06 PM
I'm thinking a 454 20inch... Just gotta have one some day.

I have a couple of 44mag levers, a Rossi and a Marlin, a 444Marlin a Trapdoor and a 416 Rigby, so I really have no need at all for a 454 Rossi, but boy, I really fancy one!

popper
10-09-2012, 10:40 AM
Looked at a rossi 45colt at the store, price was decent. Any good? Love my 30-30 336, just wondering. A better cal for plinking with another toy? I don't really NEED one.

Four Fingers of Death
10-09-2012, 06:03 PM
Apart from sights which are often pretty ordinary, Rossis are hard to go fault.