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jeff223
05-27-2007, 07:47 AM
the 35cal Ranch Dog molds came yesterday and they look good :bigsmyl2:

!!!HERE IS THE BAD NEWS!!! :violin:
i am leaving today and wont be back until late Friday so the molds wont be shipped out until Saturday June 2.if i get back early on Friday June 1st i will ship them out then.

i just wanted to give you a heads up about this buy[smilie=w:

jeff223
06-03-2007, 07:11 PM
the molds didnt get shipped out on Saturday but they will be shipped out first thing tomorrow,Monday morning

Poohgyrr
06-03-2007, 10:03 PM
:drinks:

jeff223
06-04-2007, 12:38 PM
***MOLDS HAVE BEEN SENT***

thanks everyone http://castboolits.gunloads.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

bart55
06-05-2007, 12:28 AM
yippie can t wait to start casting

bart55
06-06-2007, 08:03 PM
just got home and here is the package I have the pot fired up and will test some tomorrow if I get out of work in time

jeff223
06-06-2007, 08:41 PM
great im glad you got your mold

let us know how the boolits shoot.im going to try to find the time to cast some and i would like to see how they shoot from my 357 max Contender

308
06-06-2007, 10:17 PM
I got something in the mail today in a Lee box. I'll bet it's a .35 cal RD mold. Great work again Jeff and many thanks. :drinks:

Blammer
06-06-2007, 11:14 PM
I couldn't find the ranch dog thread where these went up for a GB.... wanted a pic of the bullet to look at.

357maximum
06-07-2007, 05:19 AM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=12291

There is the original thread....for some reason this pic is missing.


What was the meplate on this bad boy suppose to be?

Was this boolit suppose to weigh 203 grains, and have a meplate of .301?

This boolit looks like a longnosed wadcutter is it suppose to?

Boomer had Jeff send me his mold for some leementing purposes, and because I have more time to play with it than he does right now. Well I have a sample of the original RD35 from Ranch Dog himself, and something is not adding up at all. The original RD boolits I have are

187 grains naked
meplate of 0.256
an actual shank for the gas check

Boomers mold throws a boolit of:

203 grains naked
meplate of .301
and the gas check shank is just a taper into the bottom drive band, and putting a gas check on is like trying to put on wet blue jeans,


Am I confused, was there two different designs?

jeff223
06-07-2007, 08:16 AM
Mike it sure doesnt sound like that mold is dropping boolits like what we wanted.i looked around for a spec sheet of the boolits but have not found one yet.i also looked at Ranch Dogs web site for the picture of the boolits and spec sheet and i found he has changed things around some with no picture or spec sheet of the boolit.maybe he will still have a copy of the spec sheet of the boolit?i sure hope so

it sure looks like Lee screwed up again just like when i ran the group buy on the 44cal Ranch Dog boolit mold.i have not had time to cast a boolit from my mold yet but maybe today sometime.

NEWS LIKE THIS PISSES ME OFF :evil:

what the hell :groner:

i know one thing i am done with this group buy stuff and will not deal HONCHO a deal again

PLEASE LET ME KNOW about your molds.if your happy with them thats fine but if the boolits wont work for you Lee can get them back just like before

Mike you have another PM

Dr. A
06-07-2007, 08:41 AM
Mine also has a .3 meplat. Won't fit the 35 Rem. Might be a good pistol boolet if seated a little deeply.

6pt-sika
06-07-2007, 09:30 AM
Here's a picture of the Ranch Dog series so far ;

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/6pt-sika/DSCN0069.jpg

From left to right ;

The 30 cal 160 grain bullet , shot quite a few of these in a 336CB .

Second from left the 180 grain 35 cal bullet .

Third from left the 375 cal 210 grain bullet , this one has done alright in a Marlin 375 .

Next is the "original" 44 cal 285 . Have shot quite a few of these recently in my three old Marlin 444's .

The 350 grain 45 cal bullet is next , sorry to say I've not shot this one yet .

And lastly on the far right the 45 cal 420 grain bullet .

All of my moulds came direct from RD . So my 35 cal bullet is the 180 grain version . SHould do very well in the 356 WIN . And I just happen to have a pair of Marlin 336ER's . One for cast and the other for jacketed [smilie=1:

Hope the pic may be of some help :castmine:

jeff223
06-07-2007, 09:55 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2194ff66aea8d96894250086fed1a384/e927feb5.jpg

jeff223
06-07-2007, 09:56 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p2194ff66aea8d96894250086fed1a384/e927feb5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/pd659e3c932a9ace3623cf84a16af32bb/ead6d38b.jpg

the boolits on the left are the 35cal Ranch Dogs and the boolits on the right are c358-180rf boolits
the meplat on the Ranch Dogs are the same as the meplat on the c358-180rf boolits if not bigger.i measured my Ranch Dog boolits and they fall from my mold no bigger than .358 with alot of them at .357.i sure wish they would fall somewhat bigger,say .359 or .360!the Ranch Dogs boollits that i cast weigh alittle over 200gr without the gas check.
i did find i picture of the 35cal Ranch Dog spec sheet that i sent in to Lee Precision.Lee Precision has screwed up again.I will call Pat again about this and i would expect they will make a new run of molds like they did before when i ran the 44cal Ranch Dog group buy.

im going to see if these boolits will work for me but i dont expect you guys to do so.a call to Pat at Lee from each of you should fix this problem,I HOPE.
im sure sorry this has happened again:groner:

357maximum
06-07-2007, 10:23 AM
Darn Jeff, I did not mean to be a bug in the ointment, this is really an odd position for me, it is not even MY mold. I Pm'ed Boomer, I'll let you know what he thinks when I hear from him. How's the gas check fit on your mold(s)?

jeff223
06-07-2007, 10:36 AM
the gas checks will fit on there but it aint the best.im going to try the boolits out as they may work just fine for me.this sure isnt a bore rider design from what ive seen of the boolits so far

heres the phone# to Lee Precision (262) 673-3075 ASK FOR PAT

good thing there were only 16 molds sold on this deal

deadguy
06-07-2007, 10:49 AM
The mold I just got in the mail also looks like what you guys are describing, not the original Ranch Dog design. However, it is still a nice looking bullet, and I've wanted a 200ish grain .35 cal bullet anyway, so I will reserve judgement on it until I get a chance to see how it shoots. If it shoots well, there won't be any complaints here.

Ranch Dog
06-07-2007, 12:07 PM
Jeff223 and 357 Max... I got your PM and see that you posted the original drawing. I've been reworking and moving my web site pages so that is why you could not find the images.

It doesn't look like my TLC359 bullet but it looks interesting. I wonder if it will chamber in 35 Rem Marlins.

poletax
06-07-2007, 01:39 PM
I don't have any .358 moulds bigger than 160 grain.
I've always wanted 200-210.
I'll try this boolit out,I figger I can make it work.
I'm very easy to please.

Ranch Dog
06-07-2007, 04:32 PM
Here's a picture of the Ranch Dog series so far

6pt...
The ring around the nose of these bullets, is that from a nose punch (sizer)?

6pt-sika
06-07-2007, 05:22 PM
6pt...
The ring around the nose of these bullets, is that from a nose punch (sizer)?

Yes [smilie=1:

6pt-sika
06-07-2007, 05:27 PM
RD , I've got the top punch thing pretty much straight on everything except the 375 .
My 44 and 45 bullets went better on the later castings .

jeff223
06-07-2007, 08:29 PM
i just lubed up my new boolits with the group buy alox and i plan on trying them soon from my 357max Contender.i bet they will work just fine from that iron and maybe i can even use the crimp grove.maybe the mistake boolit mold will end up being a winner for the single shots and that larger meplat sure cant hurt for bringing down game

its hard to beleave the Lee messed up two times on my group buys.maybe it would be better to just call them on the phone and tell the mold maker what we want in a boolit.i think we would have a better chance of getting what we want that way.it must be hard to read and hash things out on these spec sheets :veryconfu

ha 6pt saka do you know RV Stallard?i see yur from Virgina.how about leftoverdj?

357maximum
06-07-2007, 10:38 PM
It doesn't look like my TLC359 bullet but it looks interesting. I wonder if it will chamber in 35 Rem Marlins.



It will chamber in my 336rc, iffin you put enough pressure on the lever, and don't mine a shaved off mess.....

it chambers just fine in my MGM encore 357 max, and would likely work fine in it, if I could get a gas check on the boolit properly.

This is Boomers ball game, from here on out.


I bet they would knock the stripes of any critter they hit....it is a neat looking psuedo wadcutter:-D

If I had to find use for this mold, i would finish the job for lee and plain base it...

versifier
06-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Just got mine today, will try it out tomorrow. I'm not thrilled with what I've been hearing, but I want to thank Jeff for all of his efforts putting this together. If Lee screwed up, they'll hear about it. I wanted a 180gr .360 boolit, not a 200gr .358.

Just cast a bunch of them out of ww's. This is a .358 200gr plain based boolit. I don't know if it was Moe or his brother Ron that was programming the CNC that day, but this is not what we ordered.

C A Plater
06-08-2007, 08:11 AM
Mine showed up in yesterdays mail. Thanks a bunch Jeff for honchoing the deal. It is disappointing to hear they are undersized and it seems Lee still has a problem making Ranch Dog group buy designs to specification. I wanted this for a .35 Marlin so .360 would have been perfect so I'd be interested in what Lee has to say too.

jeff223
06-08-2007, 02:48 PM
im going to wait till Monday and im going to call Pat at Lee Precision about this.i tumble lubed some of these boolits and the checks came off when i was doing it.im very PISSED about this screw AGAIN!!im hoping Pat at Lee will take care of this AGAIN just like before when the 44 Ranch Dog molds were messed up

i am sending my mold back to them with another spec sheet

MT Gianni
06-08-2007, 03:20 PM
If any one has one of these that really will go 200 gr and keeps checks on please let me know via PM. Also post the length of the bullet. I could be interested but will be out of town fishing for most of the month. Gianni.

Ranch Dog
06-10-2007, 07:44 PM
...it seems Lee still has a problem making Ranch Dog group buy designs to specification.

I don't think it is a "Ranch Dog" design thing. I'm not sure what happened to Jeff's order but I received 400 molds from Lee on Thursday and they are exact to my approval drawings. The scanned mold half digitally mirrors the drawing and bullet samples cast as follows...

TLC432-265-RF... .433" and 259-grains
TLC432-300-RF... .433" and 291-grains
TLC460-350-RF... .463" and 349-grains
TLC460-425-RF... .462" and 418-grains

The molds in question have no relationship to my drawing and shouldn't have been shipped. May be there are some guys, somewhere, that are upset about the gas check molds with Micro-Bands they received in place of their plain base bullet molds.

jeff223
06-10-2007, 10:27 PM
i think this is just a random screw up and it has happened to my group buys two times now.i will be calling Lee Precision about the spec of this boolit but i wanted to hear from a few more buyers first

i loaded some ammo today with this boolit and the shank of the boolit doesnt hold the gas check very well.im going to try to lap my mold some so it drops the boolits bigger and im hopeing that will take care of the gas check problem.im thinking with alittle more resistance on the sides of the push through sizer the checks will seat better.

i will let you all know what happens