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km101
09-25-2012, 01:45 PM
I have a few pieces of .30 carbine brass that has the headspamp: WMN 59 7.62 x 33. I have never seen this headstamp before. Can anyone tell me who made it?
Dutchman
09-25-2012, 01:56 PM
Apparently the 3 letters should be NWM for:

Nederlandsche Wapen-en Munitiefabriek

Netherlands Weapon & Munitions factory.

Dutch
km101
09-25-2012, 03:01 PM
Apparently the 3 letters should be NWM for:

Nederlandsche Wapen-en Munitiefabriek

Netherlands Weapon & Munitions factory.

Dutch


Dutch: Close but no cigar! It's WMN 59. I rechecked it. But thanks for the info.
gnoahhh
09-25-2012, 03:32 PM
Sure its not 65 NWM?
km101
09-25-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm sure.... My eyes arent good, but not THAT bad! :)
Larry Gibson
09-25-2012, 04:09 PM
Are they boxer or berdan primed?

Larry Gibson
km101
09-25-2012, 04:45 PM
It's boxer primed, military brass, with a crimped and sealed primer.
Larry Gibson
09-25-2012, 05:29 PM
There were several runs of 30 carbine ammo made in the '60s for covert missions in SEA and central America. They all had phoney headstamps. They do turn up occasionally stateside. Don't know if the one you have is one of those but you never know.......until someone gets a positive ID on it.

Larry Gibson
Dutchman
09-25-2012, 11:06 PM
Photo ID verify....

http://www.iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9821
Frank46
09-26-2012, 12:28 AM
There was some 30-06 made up with cxn and bxn headstamps during the bay of pigs operation. They were made like that soas to not allow any traceability of that ammo back to the mother country. Some yeras back I found a guy merrily banging away with his garand and when I saw the headstamp I explained the story behind that particular headstamps. Frank
Larry Gibson
09-26-2012, 01:22 AM
Photo ID verify....

http://www.iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9821


Dutch appears to have answered the question.........:grin:

Larry Gibson
Mooseman
09-26-2012, 03:33 AM
I have checked My lists and find NO WMN headstamp listed....Interesting.
km101
09-26-2012, 08:30 PM
Dutch: that is it EXACTLY! Thanks a lot. I knew someone on here would lnow or know where to find it!
I appreciate all the help.

Larry: I had heard those stories, but thought they were just stories. Nice to have them confirmed.
Dutchman
09-26-2012, 09:52 PM
I want that dang cigar!

[smilie=s:
kywoodwrkr
09-27-2012, 10:50 AM
There were several runs of 30 carbine ammo made in the '60s for covert missions in SEA and central America. They all had phoney headstamps. They do turn up occasionally stateside. Don't know if the one you have is one of those but you never know.......until someone gets a positive ID on it.

Larry Gibson
7,62x39 with no head stamp was also produced.
Got some used brass from a range at Ft Knox back then.
Larry Gibson
09-27-2012, 11:54 AM
7,62x39 with no head stamp was also produced.
Got some used brass from a range at Ft Knox back then.

I believe that is correct also. We had some pretty wierd headstamped 9mm stuff in SEA back in the day. We thought it was covert ammo also but wit the myrid places the 9mm has been made we didn't know for sure.

Larry Gibson
Mooseman
09-28-2012, 03:21 AM
Dutch: that is it EXACTLY! Thanks a lot. I knew someone on here would lnow or know where to find it!
I appreciate all the help.

Larry: I had heard those stories, but thought they were just stories. Nice to have them confirmed.

So You were reading it Upside down ???:roll: