I will no longer be buying shot from rotometals.com

[DODGEM250]

I WILL NO LONGER BE BUYING SHOT FROM ROTOMETALS.COM THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME. NEVER AGAIN FOLKS !

I ordered a bag of #7/8 Reclaim lead ($36.49/#25 bag)from RotoMetals.com back on February 16, 2012 and was charged $11.00 for shipping via USPS Priority Flat Rate Box. Grand total of the bill was $47.49 per my invoice right here in front of me. My last two orders were the same.

I just went through a complete hassle to order another #10 bag of the #4 Copper Plated Lead shot ($28.99/#10 bag) and the USPS Priority shipping is stated at $33.00 making the grand total of the order $62.19
*** !?!?!?!?!?!

I called them to confirm the shipping total and the CSR said, "That certainly does not sound right" I then proceed to explain to her, as she pulled my previous order invoice that confirmed I paid $11.00 for USPS Priority Flat Rate shipping on my my last order, which was for a #25 pound bag of shot. ( not a 10 pound, but, a 25 pound bag )

She confirmed my order via Pay Pal and then I get a call back a few minutes later and she tells me, "I see you already placed the order", I stated, "Yes I did per your instructions".

THEN SHE PROCEEDS TO TELL ME, "The owner just told me that you should have actually paid the full price because shipping is soooooo expensive now, but, we are going to honor the refund this time only, but, please be aware of the shipping charges next time" I laughed and said, "Don't worry, there won't be a next time."

I ABOUT FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR

I said, "Are you kidding me ? $33.00 for shipping a 10 pound bag of shot USPS Priority Flat Rate Box ?" Then I proceeded to let her know that, "I will have to find some place else to buy shot because $33.00 for shipping is completely ridiculous."

With all due respect, RotoMetals can kiss my backside and they WILL NEVER get my business again. USPS Flat Rate Medium Priority Box only costs $10.95 and only $11.65 with Delivery Confirmation ! "one price regardless of weight, up to 70 pounds." And they want to charge me $33.00 ??????? That's not going to happen.

They treated me very well the past 3 orders I have made with them, and I ship with these boxes on a daily basis here from my repair shop, and there is no way on God's Green Earth can it ever cost $33.00. It's impossible.

Well, I'm done with RotoMetals.com The "Owner" needs to find some reality. I mean the shipping options menu starts with "2-6 BIZ day Economy shipping at $21.??"

My lord they are charging more for shipping fees than the damned product itself costs !

All I can say is, either people who pay that shipping are really stupid and naive, or RM doesn't sell much shot...

[Hardcast416taylor]

The question that comes to mind is, "what are the ship rates for their alloy ingots then"? Their answer just sounds plain wrong about shipping fees.Robert

[DODGEM250]

The question that comes to mind is, "what are the ship rates for their alloy ingots then"? Their answer just sounds plain wrong about shipping fees.Robert

No idea. I get my ingots from a local fella for free, but, I'd be curious to add a few to the shopping cart and see what they state as shipping.

I just did it to see what it would say for shipping and the shipping charges are the same for shot. I did the cart contents for 10 ingots of:

ANTIMONIAL LEAD Ingot (4-6% Antimony Lead)


$1.89


$18.90


Click to remove an item from your cart
Empty My Entire Cart
Shipping Rates: (change my address)
United States, MD, 20640


Tax:

$0.00

Show gift options during checkout


Coupon code? Enter it here:



Total:

$18.90

[wiljen]

They have to have some website screw up. I put 25lbs of pure lead in the shopping cart and punched in my address and it came up with $62.60 for USPS priority shipping. I suspect they have it calculating priority by weight rather than using the flat rate. I'd certainly not buy from them until they figure that out.

[9.3X62AL]

Their website's front page shows that "free shipping" applies on weights of 99#+. Their price breaks per pound seem to roughly follow 60# increments, which parallel the USPS FRB limits pretty closely--so I figure that's how alloy arrives. One of my shooting pals made a 65# contribution to the lead kitty with Roto #2 alloy, and it is good stuff. He didn't mention any exorbitant shipping rates, maybe they had a special offer on FRB packs.

[Gliden07]

I just did a test also 2-6 day economy shipping for 15 pounds of there ANTIMONIAL LEAD ingot shipped to Mass was $28.35 Lead + $23.06 Economy shipping for a grand total of $51.41!!! Thats CRAZY!!

[9.3X62AL]

Uh.....can you say "Small Order Disincentive?"

[Ickisrulz]

Rotometal's shipping rates are fine (free) when you buy $99+ worth of stuff...which I always do. Why pay for shipping when you can get it free?

If you need 1 bag of shot, eventually you will need four.

[UNIQUEDOT]

($36.49/#25 bag)

This ^ was your first mistake...paying someone that much for reclaimed shot! that price just seems criminal to me.

[Rotometals]

Sorry about the confusion over shipping with the new girl.
She didn't explain that correctly. The shopping cart is a weight based system and charges by the pound, not by the flat rate box, because only certain items can fit in them. ie long handle ladles don't fit. The weight based system turns off after you hit $99, if all items have a green truck.
it should of been the same $11 as last time.
On orders under $100 its going to charge more because we need to cover insurance/handling because all USPS flat rates have a much high damaged / loss rate then a UPS or fed ex would.

We appreciate the business, but because of the West Coast/ Mayco monopoly they control the prices and we make pennies on the bags

Regards
Ryan

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Ryan,

it sounds to me like your webmaster needs to fix your shopping cart, before you lose a lot more business. Insurance on one-hundred dollars via USPS Flat Rate boxes is less than $2. They give you the boxes free, and come to get your orders free as well.

I live in Nampa, Idaho, and my local store only charges $39.95 for 25-lb bags plus the 6% sales tax.

regards,

Rich
Sua Sponte

[DODGEM250]

This ^ was your first mistake...paying someone that much for reclaimed shot! that price just seems criminal to me.

Do you have a better source ? Please, let me know.

[DODGEM250]

Sorry about the confusion over shipping with the new girl.
She didn't explain that correctly. The shopping cart is a weight based system and charges by the pound, not by the flat rate box, because only certain items can fit in them. ie long handle ladles don't fit. The weight based system turns off after you hit $99, if all items have a green truck.
it should of been the same $11 as last time.
On orders under $100 its going to charge more because we need to cover insurance/handling because all USPS flat rates have a much high damaged / loss rate then a UPS or fed ex would.

We appreciate the business, but because of the West Coast/ Mayco monopoly they control the prices and we make pennies on the bags

Regards
Ryan

With all due respect Ryan, she explained it to me and that the way it was meant for me to take it, otherwise she would not have said and she could not have made it up.

As for the statement you make, highlighted in red above, I ship USPS every day of the week and even with USPS insurance at "$250.00 and Above" it's only about $2.85 for Insurance, I can send you a photo of all of the stacks of USPS labels here I use in my shop if need be, I'm very familiar with them, making the USPS total, about $15.00 at the very most. $33.00 is more than twice what it costs.

AND... Y our comment, "much high damaged / loss rate then a UPS or fed ex would." That is complete garbage. I am way too familiar with USPS shipping, and I ship to 6 different countries from my shop, to believe that comment in any way shape or form.

All of my previous orders with RM came in a USPS Priority Medium Flat Rate Box. I'm more than confident, given my shipping experience with USPS that the shipping charges and rates didn't more than double over a 7 month period.

Now, don't "blame it on the new girl" and please stop back-peddling on what I was told. I mean after all, it was important enough for her to call me back and tell me, "The owner said you should have actually paid the $33.00, but..." The fact is, if the "Owner" had not made this comment, then I would have not gotten the phone call.

The second fact is, don't use a commercially advertized Flat Rate shipping service if you're going to charge 3 times what is actually costs ( even the stupidest people will catch on to to the USPS commercials ). There may be some really stupid consumers out there who get suckered into outrageous shipping fees becuase they don't know any better, but, I am not one of them, especially when someone tries to charge me 3 times the advertised price for shipping.

USPS produces commercials on TV so people know it costs "only this much" and and when I take my boxes to the PO I know it doesn't cost my customer or myself more than "only this much".

Yes, additional services like Delivery Confirmation and/or Insurance are additional, for a few cents / dollars more, but, you are never going to convince me that a USPS Flat Rate Box and Insurance costs $33.00

The sad mistake was receiving all of my previous orders in USPS Flat Rate Medium Boxes at $11.00 every time, and then I end up in a complete hassle trying to order again and then the conversation with the, very polite lady I spoke with, while trying to sort this mess out.

I select USPS shipping methods on lots of things I order personally and for my business. I am very aware of what I have been getting and what the costs were. I went through the roof after I go that phone call from the Lady at RM. Never again until someone figures out who is in charge of coming up with the shipping rates at RM. Whomever that is needs to find a new career immediately. I don't know how else to say it but the factual way.

I honestly thought the Lady was kidding with me when she called me back and told me what she told me the Owner told her. If I had of paid the #33.00 and then received that order in the mail in Flat Rate Box again, the Owner would have been a phone call from me personally. The order would have been refunded. Heck I would even go so far as to ship it back because I know it would only cost everybody else in the world only $11.95

Now if RM's is charging $33.00 for an advertised Flat Rate Box, I would really hate to see what shipping service they are using for their "2-6 BIZ Day Economy -$21.??" shipping service. Did someone reinstate the Pony Express ?

Am I hot and extremely irritated by this fiasco today with RotoMetals ? You bet I am... All $33.00 of it.

[DODGEM250]

They have to have some website screw up. I put 25lbs of pure lead in the shopping cart and punched in my address and it came up with $62.60 for USPS priority shipping. I suspect they have it calculating priority by weight rather than using the flat rate. I'd certainly not buy from them until they figure that out.

I was willing to go along with the "website screwup" theory until the girl called me back and said, I should have actually paid the $33.20 shipping. This blows that theory completely out of the equation.

[DODGEM250]

I am proud to announce that RotoMetals.com has officially added a new shipping service rate to their shipping options in the shopping cart / checkout process. As of last night, they have added,

"Flat Shipping USPS (2-6 Biz Day) $9.99"

This is much better and it should go without being said, but, it should have been done this way from the start.

Heck, I might even take a chance at ordering from them again. Maybe I should run for President. It appears as though I can create "change" where it is required in less than 4 years...

[nanuk]

DOBAMA250 has indeed created change..... $9.99, down from $11.95, that is enough change to grab a coffee!

[Ola]

If I'm not mistaking the "handling fee" used to be some 20 dollars per shipment? And now with this new option it is free?

If so, the firm is practically selling the stuff cheaper than it used to. At some point in near future they will just raise the prices to compensate.

[DODGEM250]

DOBAMA250 has indeed created change..... $9.99, down from $11.95, that is enough change to grab a coffee!


No. That's $9.99 down from $33.20

You need re-read the post.

[DODGEM250]

If I'm not mistaking the "handling fee" used to be some 20 dollars per shipment? And now with this new option it is free?

If so, the firm is practically selling the stuff cheaper than it used to. At some point in near future they will just raise the prices to compensate.

I have never been charged any such $20.00 handling fee. However, if the case results in higher product prices, then we'll just not buy it at all. The products' price is fine, but, the shipping fee(s) is absolutely ridiculous. Of course this was rather obvious since RM changed / added a proper fee to their options list.

[UNIQUEDOT]

Do you have a better source ? Please, let me know.

Not for reclaimed shot, but you can buy new magnum shot cheaper.

[Lefty SRH]

Sorry but what is reclaimed shot?

[357maximum]

Reclaimed shot is shot that has been farmed/sifted out of the dirt from out in front of trap/skeet ranges. It is a big process that looks like some farmer got mad at the ground while it is being done.

It is once fired shot. :lol:

[shotman]

most reclaimed is a mix of sizes. Not that it hurts but what I have seen has from 6 to 9 in the mix
there is a company that sells it . check trapshooters or shotgun world

[mac60]

Many large outfits make more on inflated shipping charges than they make profit on the actual merchandise. The profit margin on merchandise is not advertised in a TV commercial. It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you know the actual charge for something and then get charged 2 or 3 times that amount.

[Lefty SRH]

Reclaimed shot is shot that has been farmed/sifted out of the dirt from out in front of trap/skeet ranges. It is a big process that looks like some farmer got mad at the ground while it is being done.

It is once fired shot. :lol:

Gotcha, thats what it sounded like but had to ask.

[mehavey]

Sorry,guys, but I've been extremely happy w/ RotoMetals -- both their product and their service -- and their we'll make-it-right
attitude when they occasionally err... There are rules-of-the game at work here which make them/their shipping rates just fine,
and the $99+/they-include-the-shipping is the threshhold.

I for one will continue to us them.

[357shooter]

Ditto. All my experiences with them have been excellent.

Sounds like there was some churn here and that in the end the flat rate price is listed. Issue resolved.

[plmitch]

RotoMetals is just great. Haven't had one problem with them. A quick 8-10 minute drive from my home, very easy to deal with buying or selling.

[DODGEM250]

Sorry,guys, but I've been extremely happy w/ RotoMetals -- both their product and their service -- and their we'll make-it-right
attitude when they occasionally err... There are rules-of-the game at work here which make them/their shipping rates just fine,
and the $99+/they-include-the-shipping is the threshhold.

I for one will continue to us them.

This is, of course, not and issue for those who need $99.00 or more of shot. I do not. The point is why does anyone have to be charged 3 times what a Flat Rate box costs. It's called "Flat Rate" for a reason...

I charge a "flat rate" labor fee here on my work bench of $15.00/hour with a 1 hour minimum. I don't then bill the customer $45.00 Labor for 1 hour of service and claim the cost of living went up over-night. That's just bad business ethics.

Therein lies another point that needs to be made. How can anyone claim that the actual cost of shipping "is so high these days", when the Flat Rate box costs a specific amount. I can understand if it was a brown plain box where H x W x D x Weight comes in to play, but, a 10 pound bag of shot in a Flat Rate Box costs the same.

I can buy at least Six 10 pound bags of shot and have it shipped in a Flat Rate Box for the same price it costs as a Single 10 pound bag as well, since the Medium Flat Rate Box accepts a maximum weight of 70 pounds. Of course you have to deal with the minimum shipping fee for a Flat Rate Box.

AND DON'T TRY TO TELL ME YOU CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR ADDITIONAL BAGS OF SHOT.

That statement won't fly either. I've already had another retailer try to pull that BS over on me. I told them just give me a refund and I'll go somewhere else.

[turbo1889]

Question: Where you or where you not informed of the shipping charges before you hit the confirm button on the web-site or confirmed your order by phone?

[badge176]

"WHAT destination"??


USPS flat rate in CONUS is @ $12.00 but to Canada it is @ $32.00 with a 20# limit!

[DODGEM250]

Question: Where you or where you not informed of the shipping charges before you hit the confirm button on the web-site or confirmed your order by phone?

With all due respect, go back and read the thread from the start, and then maybe, the second time around, you'll understand how we got here in the conversation.

[DODGEM250]

"WHAT destination"??


USPS flat rate in CONUS is @ $12.00 but to Canada it is @ $32.00 with a 20# limit!

Destination was Maryland. As stated in a previous reply in this thread.

Click to remove an item from your cart
Empty My Entire Cart
Shipping Rates: (change my address)
United States, MD, 20640

Read Grasshopper. Read.

[DODGEM250]

"WHAT destination"??


USPS flat rate in CONUS is @ $12.00 but to Canada it is @ $32.00 with a 20# limit!

Someone is ripping you off. I ship USPS Medium Flat Boxes to Canada every week from my shop here in Southern Maryland (dodgem250.com (http://www.dodgem250.com) there are are no repair techs in Canada ? )

It costs me $11.35 and that's with the USPS CN Customs Form #CN22 / PS-2976

So, if you're paying $32.00 to Canada then you're either sadly mistaken or seriously guillable.

I also do a lot of repair work with Australia, U.K., Mexico, N & S America, P.R., and a few other locations outside the CONUS. I am VERY familiar with USPS shipping rates all over the globe.

This is why I questioned the shipping charge from RM to begin with. My eyes are not hidden by wool

[jh45gun]

Do not know why you would pay that for reclaimed shot when you can buy new for that price.

[turbo1889]

Question: Where you or where you not informed of the shipping charges before you hit the confirm button on the web-site or confirmed your order by phone?

With all due respect, go back and read the thread from the start, and then maybe, the second time around, you'll understand how we got here in the conversation.

I did most certainly read the thread before I posted and that was one question in my mind that was not answered by any post in the thread. My main concern was if you got charged that shipping rate without being informed of it at the time of the order. So long as I know they aren't going to change the shipping rate on me after I make my order I will continue to use RotoMetals for certain supplies that will cost me just as much or more elsewhere including the shipping charges. If, however, they might change the shipping rate after the fact that is a whole different ball of wax.

So, I still don't have an answer to that question after re-checking your posts again, didn't take the time to re-read the other peoples posts on this thread but I just did re-check yours and you just say that you made the order and discovered the $33 shipping charge upon receiving the item on the invoice slip (or at least that is how I understand what you have posted) and there is no mention of whether that was the shipping charge when you made the order or if it was changed to be higher after you placed the order.

If someone wants to charge ridiculous shipping charges I may choose to deal with someone else instead myself instead of ordering from them when I see the shipping charges (back button instead of confirm button in online checkout) but that is a whole different thing then changing the shipping charge after the order was placed !!!

So my question is still an unanswered question.

[alamogunr]

Quote from OP:
" $33.00 for shipping a 10 pound bag of shot USPS Priority Flat Rate Box ?"

USPS Priority is one rate. Flat Rate Box is another. They are separate rates according to the Rotometals check-out.

[nanuk]

Someone is ripping you off. I ship USPS Medium Flat Boxes to Canada every week from my shop here in Southern Maryland

It costs me $11.35 and that's with the USPS CN Customs Form #CN22 / PS-2976

So, if you're paying $32.00 to Canada then you're either sadly mistaken or seriously guillable.



Dodge: according to the USPS web site, a medium flat rate box to Canada, Priority Mail International is $33 Small flat rate PMI is $13.

what service are you using???

I'd sure be interested to know, as I shop south of the border often.

[DODGEM250]

Quote from OP:
" $33.00 for shipping a 10 pound bag of shot USPS Priority Flat Rate Box ?"

USPS Priority is one rate. Flat Rate Box is another. They are separate rates according to the Rotometals check-out.

Congratulations, this is correct. However, When I get my orders from RM, they always show up in a FLAT RATE BOX not a PRIORITY BOX. I do know the difference and this is what started the whole issue in the first place. Like I have said before, READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS...

"alamogunr - "USPS Priority is one rate." This is not so. ONLY "Flat Rate Boxes" are "one rate. You are confused.

Priority Box is done by "Shipping Time". You pay the additional fee(s) for how fast you want the package to get there which is a 2-3 Day - Guarantee. Unlike a Parcel, which could take 7-10 Days. It's also not as high priced and "over night" fee.

Flat Rate Box is done by shipping time as well (2-3 day), BUT, the major difference is that you can put up to 70 pounds in this box ( "If it fits, It ships" ). The FRB also goes out as Priority regardless.

Maybe this is where some of you are confused on the this box versus that box issue.

The point, once again..., is they were shipping my orders in FLAT RATE boxes and charging me $11.00 This last time I tried ordering the shipping showed $33.00 I called to question the rate because I know for a fact that a Flat Rate box only costs a "one rate" regardless, unless you add Tracking, Delivery Confirmation, Insurance, other services, etc. to the total.

I have 3 boxes of Flat Rate small, medium, large, boxes here in my shop, this is how I ship repairs and orders out to my customers everyday. Do not question my experience with these boxes.

This is why I called to question this issue of the $33.00 when I know for a fact my orders were coming from RM in a FLAT RATE box. I asked, "Why are they showing $33.00 for a Flat Rate Box ?"

Another thing you must know is that the Option on the checkout process of RM's website NEVER stated from the start, even during my very first order with them, whether it was a Priority or a Flat Rate box, but, the shipping was $11.00 and I ALWAYS received my orders in a FLAT RATE BOX.

Are you catching up now ? This is getting a bit ridiculous having to re-explain the same thing over and over...

Here's the thing. If I had received the first order in Priority box and seen the shipping, I would not have ordered the second time, but, I placed three separate orders over a years time. If I had not known that a Flat Rat Box is less than $12.00 ($11.35) in the CONUS I would have never have caught the issue with the $33.00 charge.

There must have "obviously" been and issue. This brings us to the NEW shipping rate offered by RM's on their website checkout process. Cudos to RM for stepping up and making the change.

Like I said, if anyone paid $33.00 you're either stupid or really guillable because even if it were shipping in a regular Priority box it still would not cost $30.00 I ship big base station CB Radios all the time and they never exceed $20.00 no matter how you ship them. These base units can weight up to 30-35 pounds and that 5-10 pounds more than that 25 pound bag of shot.

Whew... OK, that should explain it in idiot / layman's terms.

To further prove my point. Here is, one of three, Large Flat Rate boxes that came in to my shop just yesterday. Notice this is a LARGE Flat Rate box, which costs a few dollars more than a Medium ( that I was getting from RM ), and it also has an additional DEL.CONF. label fee and the grand total was only $16.20. This is a fine example of why I questioned a $33.00 charge for the smaller MEDIUM Flat Rate box.

[rbertalotto]

I buy ALL my casting alloy from Roto Metals. Service is fantastic and shipping across the country is VERY fast and free over $99.........No way can I find a better source at this time.

As with a large commercial alloy house, you always know what you are putting down your barrel........This is priceless!

[DODGEM250]

Dodge: according to the USPS web site, a medium flat rate box to Canada, Priority Mail International is $33 Small flat rate PMI is $13.

what service are you using???

I'd sure be interested to know, as I shop south of the border often.

Everything I ship, orders to, or repairs back, to my Canadian customers goes in a Flat Rate box. I also add the USPS CN-22 form (customs) which is not required, but, I do it to make sure I have some sort of "tracking" information and this also prevents additional costs of needing Delivery Confirmation ( $0.80 )

[nanuk]

Someone is ripping you off. I ship USPS Medium Flat Boxes to Canada every week from my shop here in Southern Maryland (dodgem250.com (http://www.dodgem250.com) there are are no repair techs in Canada ? )

It costs me $11.35 and that's with the USPS CN Customs Form #CN22 / PS-2976

So, if you're paying $32.00 to Canada then you're either sadly mistaken or seriously guillable.

I also do a lot of repair work with Australia, U.K., Mexico, N & S America, P.R., and a few other locations outside the CONUS. I am VERY familiar with USPS shipping rates all over the globe.



I am still confused then...

right from USPS.COM:

Priority Mail® International Medium Flat Rate Box
USPS-Produced Box: 13-5/8" x 11-7/8" x 3-3/8" or 11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2"
Maximum weight 20 pounds.
6 - 10 business days
$32.95

Priority Mail® International Small Flat Rate Box
USPS-Produced Box: 8-5/8" x 5-3/8" x 1-5/8"
Maximum weight 4 pounds.
6 - 10 business days
$12.95

there are other options, but nothing cheaper from what I can find....


.... Do not question my experience with these boxes.
....


so you can understand my confusion that you can find a Postal Outlet that will charge you the "Small" FRB and let you ship the "Medium" FRB

Perhaps I am mistaken, and shouldn't trust the USPS to post accurate info online... and I have been called gullible at times... but I have been called argumentative many many times!



Whew... OK, that should explain it in idiot / layman's terms.
......

I guess I am an idiot then....


ETA: by the way... that is a quite the website you have. Extensive mods and stuff. I haven't a clue what most of it means, but sounds like you can improve radio TX/RX?

[357shooter]

nanuk: I see the same rates that you do. Maybe becuase he ships every week he gets a special rate or volume discount. I did find a mention of business & volume discounts somewhere on the USPS site. It didn't say how much, just that such discounts do exist.

[DODGEM250]

I am still confused then...

right from USPS.COM:

Priority Mail® International Medium Flat Rate Box
USPS-Produced Box: 13-5/8" x 11-7/8" x 3-3/8" or 11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2"
Maximum weight 20 pounds.
6 - 10 business days
$32.95

Priority Mail® International Small Flat Rate Box
USPS-Produced Box: 8-5/8" x 5-3/8" x 1-5/8"
Maximum weight 4 pounds.
6 - 10 business days
$12.95

there are other options, but nothing cheaper from what I can find....

I do not use "International" boxes...


so you can understand my confusion that you can find a Postal Outlet that will charge you the "Small" FRB and let you ship the "Medium" FRB

Perhaps I am mistaken, and shouldn't trust the USPS to post accurate info online... and I have been called gullible at times... but I have been called argumentative many many times!



I guess I am an idiot then....

No one said you were an idiot. It's a figure of speech, "a saying", however, if you take it personally, then maybe you are, guilty feeling? LOL seriously. Take a joke.


ETA: by the way... that is a quite the website you have. Extensive mods and stuff. I haven't a clue what most of it means, but sounds like you can improve radio TX/RX?

That is what I do, 8 days a week, about 16 hours a day, for the past 35 years. Cast Boolits and hunting is my release from the CB & HAM Radio work bench.

[DODGEM250]

nanuk: I see the same rates that you do. Maybe becuase he ships every week he gets a special rate or volume discount. I did find a mention of business & volume discounts somewhere on the USPS site. It didn't say how much, just that such discounts do exist.

Yes sir they do. It's like "bulk mailing" I ship everyday of the week to 7 different countries. I'm very familiar with the "tricks" and saving on shipping and how to ship to different countries, and what labels to use.

Again, this is another reason why I questioned the $33.00 charge for USPS anything at 25 pounds of who-knows-what's in the box.

And again. I congratulate the responsible party at RotoMetals.com for stepping up and adding a proper shipping charge for the product. I'm not sure why they even changed the shipping cost from $11.00 to $33.00, but, the only thing that changed was their cost on their website. It sure was not USPS who made that change. I would not have caught such an attitude about it, but, when I was clearly lied to about the reason for the $33.00 charge, I said, "ok, we have a choice here." End result, "Glad to see RM's cleaned up the mistake they had on their website". Excellent business professionals.

[nanuk]

DODGEM250 wrote:
I do not use "International" boxes...



so... USPS accepts DOMESTIC FRB's for International shipping??

if so, I plan on advising the shippers down south to use the Domestic boxes for shipping to Canada.

[rtracy2001]

Rotometal's shipping rates are fine (free) when you buy $99+ worth of stuff...which I always do. Why pay for shipping when you can get it free?

If you need 1 bag of shot, eventually you will need four.

That doesn't work on 25 lb bags of lead shot (no green truck next to those)

1 bag reclaimed shot = $36.99

2 bags reclaimed shot with "free shipping" = $84.99

(That isn't free BTW, $36.99 X 2 = $73.98, so shipping is $11.01. Reasonable but not free, so don't lie to me)

1 bag NEW shot = $46.99 ($1 less than local price)

2. bags NEW shot = $104.99 (about $52.50 each or$46.99 each + $11.01 for shipping)

No way to come ahead on that one at all. If I could get truly free shipping I would be happy to order 4 bags of shot, but I wold want to be able to mix and mach sizes.

[DODGEM250]

READ CAREFULLY ... I don't want to have to try to re-explain this too. As simple as it is to understand.

If you notice on the RotoMetals Website, the Lead Shot (http://www.rotometals.com/Lead-Shot-s/64.htm), page specifically. Every item includes the Green Truck icon, except for the single #25 pound bags of shot. I honestly do not understand why the single bags of Lead Shot differ from the single bags of Copper Plated Lead shot. Single bags of Copper have Green Truck. Single bags of Lead shot and Reclaimed have no Green Truck.

Of course you have to buy more than two bags of Reclaimed Shot ( 36.99 x 2 = $73.98 ) to make $99.00 for the free shipping. But if you buy the 2/25 bags of Reclaimed shot ( 2 / 25 pound bags at @$84.99 ) This has free shipping with Green Truck.

Notice 2 Single bags are $73.98 - NO FREE SHIPPING
Notice 2 25Lb bags are $84.99 - WITH FREE SHIPPING

$84.99 - $73.98 = $11.01 Do you understand ?

The shipping is added in to the price of the 2/25 bag deal (versus buying two single bags. You're still paying the shipping, you just don't realize it unless you pay attention to what you're doing. This is why I pay really close attention to things before I purchase them.

However, the Green Truck, only states that items "qualify" for free shipping, it does not mean that the item has free shipping. You still have to purchase $99 or more of product. gain this is why I can not grasp the difference between the Copper shot and the lead shot. What the hell difference does it make other than the fact that Lead shot is more popular than Copper Plated.


From RM website:

All items with a green truck icon http://www.rotometals.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/icon_freeshipping_small.gif receive FREE shipping! All other items are charged shipping. To qualify orders must be over $99 and in the USA. If you have any items in your cart that do not have the green truck icon http://www.rotometals.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/icon_freeshipping_small.gif, you do not qualify for free shipping.

Lowest Prices

No Sales Tax (except CA)

Same-day Shipping (98% of order ship if ordered before 11am PST)

Extensive Catalog

No Minimum Order Online and possible Free Shipping! ( Phone order $80 min, not eligible for Free Shipping) HUH ?

So there is an $80.00 minimum if you call them ? I'm lost. I called and ordered a single 10 bag of #4 Copper Plated shot with shipping and it was a grand total of $38.99 So I am again lost. I didn't hear a thing about an $80.00 min.


Long story short. The $99 Free Shipping thing grand for those who need 100 pounds of shot. I do not. Therefore I will pay the shipping, but, only if that is correct. $33.00 is by far "correct" compared to how I have been getting it on my door step.

[another gunslinger]

you spent way more than $11 of time typing. just order more than 99 bucks. roto is the best...