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1shot
09-05-2012, 09:33 PM
Good evening,

I have recently (after 25 some odd years) discovered the delightful Twenty gauge, and so- decided to do some experimenting with my 870 Express.

I want to play around with roundball for sheer simplicity, and stay with the smoothbore barrel (for now). So I researched online and found that most people are using .600" down to .570" in their 20 gauge shotguns.
Now I can see the .600" ball working reasonably well, provided you cut the shotcup petals off. But the .570" inside of a shotcup is no good for me, because I only have access to Claybuster wads which have a rib running down each petal to the tune of .035"... Thats a problem waiting to happen if you run the math.

So how does this sound; Based upon the bore being .615".
.535" pure lead ball at 230 grains.
Claybuster wad, .035" petals X 2 brings us up to .605" and is an easy push-fit through my skeet choke. I have wadded up some paper scraps beneath the ball, in order to bring in in and maintain a proper crimp.
Now to an actual recipe.. I have remington hulls, winchester primers and am going with 14 grains of Unique. Its a very light projectile with almost zero bore interference compared with the outward forces of conventional "shot".

I'll try these out this weekend and report back.

SuperBlazingSabots
09-06-2012, 04:03 PM
Hello 1Shot, please read this:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=150140&page=5
Ajay
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1shot
09-11-2012, 06:18 PM
Thanks Ajay, I'll try and locate those wads.

The 14 grain loads were weak- good for breaking in a kid at the range but nothing else.
So I went up to 19 grains of Herco and the fun began- I was able to keep the roundballs into an eight inch circle at fifty yard using the smoothbore and beadsight. Not completely impressed by this, but for a flat shooting and low recoil projectile it was fun!

SuperBlazingSabots
09-11-2012, 08:30 PM
Hello 1 Shot, I'm glad you are starting to play the fun game, the wad is Trap Commander from BPI and I like to use two nitro cards in wad below the round ball of .575 from Lee for $17
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/1654RBload.jpg
see the groups
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/575RBgroupsjpg.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/20gaRB575MinnieinCom.jpg
be sure to push the nitro cards all the way to the bottom
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/Dantebeowulf/GreatCommanderwadcopy.jpg
You can come up with the charge of Herco 1/2 grain at a time and your groups will start to shrink! You can come up to 22 to 23 gr charge of Herco safely with .575" diameter RB of 285 gr provided your barrel is not paper thin at the muzzle!
If you use Fiocchi hulls then remember they are soft and will start to show extraction marks, thats when you can simply back off 1/2 to 1 grain.
The Federal hulls are made much stronger and will not show extraction marks, for testing its better to use softer hulls as they will show pressure signs and that helps!
Ajay
BlazingSabots@Gmail.com
Blazing Sabots, LLC
www.BlazingSabots.com
www.PreciousVideoMemories.com