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alfloyd
08-01-2012, 02:47 AM
This single cavity Lyman mold went for $455.00 on e-bay.
Some people have no common sense.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=251116044645&nma=true&rt=nc&si=Yd98O0%252FXFH%252Fig0%252F1OjBRF%252FJNAEg%253 D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1282

That is just nuts.

Lafaun

skimmerhead
08-01-2012, 03:38 AM
This single cavity Lyman mold went for $455.00 on e-bay.
Some people have no common sense.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=251116044645&nma=true&rt=nc&si=Yd98O0%252FXFH%252Fig0%252F1OjBRF%252FJNAEg%253 D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1282

That is just nuts.

Lafaun

i think you could add a few more words to that, one that comes to mind is (RETARDED) and too many others to list!
skimmerhead:shock:

fryboy
08-01-2012, 03:42 AM
while i agree it went for more than i'd of gave one also has to recall that that mold and in that configuration is no longer listed in lyman's current catalog and if you desire it bad enough to say fill a collection and have deep enough pockets it's about the only way to get it ( still nuts but ... )

Wal'
08-01-2012, 04:05 AM
And MiHec has a clone of the classic Thompson 358156 HP group buy, selling here at the moment for $90/2C + $16 extra pins +$15 shipping.

Still makes you wonder though, but as fryboy sez, maybe a collectors prize, one for the numbats though IMO ????????

rbuck351
08-01-2012, 07:12 AM
I guess if you have more money than you know what to do with and you want something, price is literally no problem. The other thing here is that it takes two nuts to get the price up that high.

Bill*
08-01-2012, 09:35 AM
I guess if you have more money than you know what to do with and you want something, price is literally no problem. The other thing here is that it takes two nuts to get the price up that high.

or one nut and one shill....just sayin'

Roundnoser
08-01-2012, 11:18 AM
There were 4 bidders on that mold. Two dropped out before the price went crazy. The other two bidders just went nuts!

Regardless, hats off to the seller. I'm sure he is as happy as a clam.

darkroommike
08-01-2012, 11:58 AM
I try not to worry about what others may want to pay for an item, I do a lot of trading on eBay and never buy anything for more than I think it's worth. That said, it will be interesting to see if the seller gets paid or if this was a whoops bid. The mold is no big deal, you could buy a new 2-up or 4-up 358156 and have it modified for less than half of what was paid. The listing has an error, too, it casts 155 grains as a SOLID and of course will cast less as a HP.

gwpercle
08-01-2012, 12:22 PM
Some folks got a whole lot more money than sense.

gary

Bret4207
08-01-2012, 06:15 PM
Any time I see something like that I wonder if one of the bidders is the owners alter ego jacking up the price. If the other party backs out, so what! The precedent is set and he sells it again in 6 weeks.

BCall
08-01-2012, 06:39 PM
Any time I see something like that I wonder if one of the bidders is the owners alter ego jacking up the price. If the other party backs out, so what! The precedent is set and he sells it again in 6 weeks.

Except that if the other bidder backs out he is still stuck with the approximately 10% fee he has to pay on the closing price of the auction. Ebay charges the fee when the auction closes, not when the winner pays.

I'm not saying shill bidding doesn't happen, but if the "shill" wins, the seller is stuck with a fee and no money, over $40 on said auction. And then he sets a "precedent" that may or may not work. I've seen prices all over the map on molds, and to automatically assume that a person could sell anything at a very inflated price would make the seller foolish. Ebay bidders are too unpredictable. Bids seem to vary widely depending on the sellers feedback, pictures, bidders craziness, etc,etc...

More than once I have seen an auction go not only for more than new, but also more than could be bought at buy-it-now on ebay itself. And no one seems to have any patience anymore. A co-worker of my dad's bought a new Playstation 3 shortly after they were first put out for almost double what they cost new because her son "had to have it right now".

Hardcast416taylor
08-01-2012, 10:48 PM
Now guys maybe we are being a bit harsh here. After all it does come with the plastic mold box?[smilie=w:Robert

skimmerhead
08-02-2012, 01:10 AM
(retarded)

Sonnypie
08-02-2012, 01:26 AM
It's only nuts to you and me.
The seller may well be laughing all the way to the bank. [smilie=w:

Bret4207
08-02-2012, 07:12 AM
Except that if the other bidder backs out he is still stuck with the approximately 10% fee he has to pay on the closing price of the auction. Ebay charges the fee when the auction closes, not when the winner pays.

I'm not saying shill bidding doesn't happen, but if the "shill" wins, the seller is stuck with a fee and no money, over $40 on said auction. And then he sets a "precedent" that may or may not work. I've seen prices all over the map on molds, and to automatically assume that a person could sell anything at a very inflated price would make the seller foolish. Ebay bidders are too unpredictable. Bids seem to vary widely depending on the sellers feedback, pictures, bidders craziness, etc,etc...

More than once I have seen an auction go not only for more than new, but also more than could be bought at buy-it-now on ebay itself. And no one seems to have any patience anymore. A co-worker of my dad's bought a new Playstation 3 shortly after they were first put out for almost double what they cost new because her son "had to have it right now".
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Like I said, it makes me wonder.

mrb7
08-02-2012, 07:48 AM
It also matters if winner pays, as someone mentioned.

I have an antique camera that I paid $250 or so on a second chance offer that sold for over $1200 three times without the high bidder paying.

Sometimes fleaBay is completely illogical.

DukeInFlorida
08-09-2012, 11:34 AM
Looks to me like the 23 bids were the issue.
There were three bidders who made wild a$$, "hope to win at any cost" bids......

All three of them seemed to think that a $500 max bid would grab the auction, however while expecting that it would never get more than $100 or so. That's the danger of wild a$$ bidding like that.

Better to bid the MOST that you would pay, and be willing to allow the auction to go to the stoopid bidders if over your max bid.

km101
08-09-2012, 04:25 PM
I recently sold a Lee DC mold on Ebay for more than it cost new. The bidder was not a caster and didn't know anything about casting. He was an artist who worked in glass, and wanted to try to make glass bullets. He saw my listing and decided that he had to have this shape mold and bought it regardless of price. When I told him that the temp. of molten glass would probably melt the mold, he said that he would try it anyway! No common sense, but had the money to do what he wanted. I just got lucky.

Ken
NRA life Member

Elkins45
08-18-2012, 12:57 PM
I recently sold a Lee DC mold on Ebay for more than it cost new. The bidder was not a caster and didn't know anything about casting. He was an artist who worked in glass, and wanted to try to make glass bullets. He saw my listing and decided that he had to have this shape mold and bought it regardless of price. When I told him that the temp. of molten glass would probably melt the mold, he said that he would try it anyway! No common sense, but had the money to do what he wanted. I just got lucky.

Ken
NRA life Member

I would love to see the results of this if you keep in touch with the buyer, regardless of if he succeeds or fails.

Seeing the failure might actually be more interesting...I've never seen a melted Lee mold.

Char-Gar
08-18-2012, 07:22 PM
I have one of those same HP molds I will sell for $200.00 if anybody wants it. Any takers?

Murphy
08-18-2012, 11:01 PM
I think I'll get my cousin to sell my 'RARE, COLLECTABLE' one identical for that. It's 'used' but casts perfect boolits.

BUY NOW!!! $250.00!

Maybe the 2nd nut in that bidding war will buy just to show the other one, by golly! I STILL got me one!

Sheeesh,

Murphy

1hole
08-19-2012, 04:01 PM
Anything is worth what a buyer will pay for it and no buyer can say he got chearted in an auction.

wills
08-19-2012, 04:46 PM
It would be interesting to be able to inquire of the purchaser as to why he was willing to pay that price. Anything else would be speculation.

jcwit
08-19-2012, 07:57 PM
Name of the game when it comes to auctions, top bidder wins. Reason for his spending are known only to him.

GT27
08-19-2012, 08:05 PM
Ahhhhh bidding wars, gotta love em' as a seller!!!!!!!

Longwood
08-19-2012, 08:34 PM
[QUOTE=jcwit;1817222]

Name of the game when it comes to auctions, top bidder wins.

QUOTE]

If,,,,,,, he pays for it.
Sometimes that does not happen.

Longwood
08-19-2012, 08:38 PM
I recently sold a Lee DC mold on Ebay for more than it cost new. The bidder was not a caster and didn't know anything about casting. He was an artist who worked in glass, and wanted to try to make glass bullets. He saw my listing and decided that he had to have this shape mold and bought it regardless of price. When I told him that the temp. of molten glass would probably melt the mold, he said that he would try it anyway! No common sense, but had the money to do what he wanted. I just got lucky.

Ken
NRA life Member

Bottles were blown into wood molds for many years.
I would think that glas could be molded with aluminum molds if they are not allowed to over heat.

Jim
08-19-2012, 08:41 PM
A smart and savvy man will buy something like that, resell it and have a half dozen custom molds made with the profit.

Dave Bulla
08-25-2012, 11:21 AM
When I see auctions like that the first thing I think of is money laundering... Though I'd never make the accusation, it's one of those thoughts that crosses the mind.

That or "Stupid is as stupid does."

nanuk
09-14-2012, 03:49 AM
a 1968 Superbee sells for well over $100k, yet you can get a 4 year old one for under $12k


same thing


some things have collector value that you may not recogize.

I also have a 13ft JD Toolbar Deep Till Cultivator that I paid $25 for.... worth $75 as scrap.

Collectors around here are paying over $500 for that same model. Even more for the coil spring field cultivator.

Good thing I am not a collector.

smokeywolf
09-14-2012, 03:56 AM
Wish I'd been the seller.

PS Paul
09-14-2012, 12:48 PM
So what lube would we use with a glass boolit? Man, this opens up a host of unanswered questions! .002 over-grooves? Lubrisizing? Gas checks? LOL!!!

ROGER4314
12-08-2012, 01:42 PM
A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED!

Flash

cbrick
12-08-2012, 04:40 PM
That mold is no longer listed on fleabay, just checked. What came up instead was a well used & rusty 2 cav (vintage w/original box) Lyman 429215 with a starting bid/buy it now of $71.99.

That mold is still in production so I went to the Midway site and they have it in stock, brand new of course but without the rust for $65.99.

No wonder it's so rare I ever go to Ebay and much rarer I buy anything.

Rick

root
12-09-2012, 11:08 AM
I bought this one for 86 bux after shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=251116044645&nma=true&rt=nc&si=Yd98O0%252FXFH%252Fig0%252F1OjBRF%252FJNAEg%253 D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1282

My logic was bid about 3/4 what it cost to have a custom mold made and leave the high bid at that.
So I bid 100 bux figuring a custom was about 125 + shipping.
I also saved the pix so the who ever made it had something to go by.

Ya 400 and change is a little crazy. But people on ebay can get a little crazy.

I just watched a USED hornady digtal scale go for 45 bux when there are two there with buy it now for 36 after shipping.

Some people have more money than brains.

zuke
12-10-2012, 12:16 PM
And the seller's probably looking for more to sell!
Can't say I blame him

warf73
12-11-2012, 07:59 AM
You never know when you will get a good buy or watch something go for more than new price(inproduction item). I bought a Mec 9000G 28ga. reloader for $330 to the house, it was still in the factory box with all the papers. Couldnt tell if it had been used or not other than a little wear were the shells move from station to station. When I first started looking I was after a Mec Grabber but after watching several auctions I pulled the trigger on the 9000 which was cheaper than all the Grabbers I seen.

John Boy
12-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Here is a mold that is worth every dollar one wants to pay for it, the adjustable Ideal 375084 for a 38-55 ...
http://www.three-peaks.net/images/375084-37584_156g-176g-197g-218g-238g-259g-280g-301g-322g.gif

The weights are 156g, 176g, 197g, 218g, 238g, 259g, 280g, 301g, 322g.

Even during Ideal's mold production period, the adjustable mold was scarcer than hen's teeth. It is a very accurate bullet for the 38-55 with the long bearing surface. I have the 322gr one and was out bid at $410 for the adjustable. Why pay so much? Kind of like a Ford Cobra Kit Car vrs the original Cobra
With black powder I have shot the 322gr bullet at 500m on the Rams with accuracy. For a Schuetzen shooter, having the mold in the lesser weights is a plus for bullet stability from 50 to 200 meters

My intention is to have a custom mold made for the 375084 Ideal

olaf455
12-11-2012, 11:06 AM
Sometimes fleaBay is completely illogical.

Ebay = great idea, and was a decent site for a long time.
Then they got stupid. Greedy, bloated.
I have never understood why business types must continually change, update, upgrade, foul things up.
When you get something right,,, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!


Now I am sure there are dozens of arguments as to why...
Just a heads up, I am taking the decision to ignore every last 1 of them...lol...

Just think of the millions of things that were just right, and then somebody tweaked them some more....

Sent from a cold damp basement near you.

thegatman
12-11-2012, 11:35 AM
I wish I would have seen it early. I guess I have to wait for the next one. What a bargain.

mdi
12-11-2012, 12:57 PM
Well, some things on ebay really are "vintage collectable", and those in the know will gladly pay more than everyday casters, those that don't know, are willing to part with. Same with guns; would you pay $2500 for a 30-30? Depends on when it was made, who made it, and how many were made...

Jes wonderin'; has anybody tried to find the same mold, at any price?

TheGrimReaper
12-12-2012, 11:59 AM
I agree with you that is way too much money!

John Allen
12-12-2012, 12:13 PM
Just think if it had some rust on it it could be considered an antique and might have doubled the price!