We need to get RECLUSE a new toy but time i running out

[Bad Water Bill]

I think he would like it and he deserves something for all the great posts.

WW2 ME163b Komet in firing condition.

ME163b Komet,Truly Original Functional Rocket Jet
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ME163b Komet,Truly Original Functional Rocket Jet

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15 minute rule Location 33004 Germany
Start 7/17/2012 10:32:49 PM ET (This is a 14 day auction)
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Yes, this is not a gag. The organization i work with is selling this stunning ,original ME163b Komet with original controls, engine, drive train...everything down to the mk canons-and it is completely functional. You cannot find anything rarer than this...nothing. This is a fully documented plane that resides in germany. transportation to the usa is around 15-20k.This plane finished its mission in early 1945 and caught fire shortly after landing. The firewas extinguished with minor external shell damage. Because of parts shortages at near wars end, The plane was taken to a salvage area. As germany began its final descent into rubble, Several luftwaffe officers borrowed the plane from the salvage area, and it was hidden until many years after the wa rs end. This plane has been reconstructed with all original materials, and if unavailable, then materials made identically to the manufacturing process during the war were utilized. This plane is 85 percent complete, with only the tail section left. This auction is for serious bidders only, and i ask that you contact me prior to making an offer. There are only 7 of these in existence....so if you cant afford this, at least enjoy the photos.(Please note that the estimated value of this plane is 3.2 to 4.5 million dollars) CONTACT ME PRIOR TO BIDDING, AND WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO END THE AUCTION AT ANY TIME AS IT IS LISTED ELSEWHERE. IF YOU ARE TRULY INTERESTED, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO VIEW THE PLANE IN GERMANY AND COTRACT IT AT THAT TIME IF YOU ARE SATISFIED. danke.

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He will have to supply his own fuel.

[scb]

Now Bill what did Recluse ever do to you?:kidding: Those things were a death trap. From what I understand more of those pilots killed themselves just trying to fly that thing than were killed by enemy action. Now this is an airplane http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html. I even learn to fly if you want to get me one of these.

[Echo]

Now Bill what did Recluse ever do to you?:kidding: Those things were a death trap. From what I understand more of those pilots killed themselves just trying to fly that thing than were killed by enemy action.

Well, there were dang few ever shot down! Hard to get a bead on a plane flying @ 600mph! They climbed so fast that they had to wait until the bombs were dropping dang near the airfield before they even launched to intercept before the bombers were closing on their main target. Rate of climb was such that it could hit 39k' 3 minutes after taking off. And it was a dream to fly, the biggest problem being that it wanted to fly too much, and could be difficult to land. But it did have it's problems...

[WILCO]

he deserves something for all the great posts.

He ain't that great! :kidding:

If I recall correctly, I think Dirk Pitt has one.......

[WILCO]

If I recall correctly, I think Dirk Pitt has one.......

Yep. He does: "Clive Cussler's famous fictional character Dirk Pitt owns an Me 262, which he acquired when he helped excavate a hidden airfield that held a number of the aircraft".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

[popper]

Xpermental only, I think they sold it to the Japs. Most ME 262 were destroyed on the ground or as they were landing. They would take-off, climb to max altitude, try to find a target on the way down. They couldn't loiter as they didn't have enough fuel. As told to me by GS teacher flying Thunderbolt in Europe theater who said he destroyed many of them. They also couldn't 'dog' fight, too fast.

[Moonie]

He ain't that great! :kidding:

If I recall correctly, I think Dirk Pitt has one.......

Right beside the tri-motor and near the bathtub...

[Bad Water Bill]

Right beside the tri-motor and near the bathtub...

Ain't no bathtub sitting in the place. The bathtub is inside of the PRESIDENTIAL RR car.

[bowfin]

hose things were a death trap. From what I understand more of those pilots killed themselves just trying to fly that thing than were killed by enemy action.

The biggest problem was that they had no landing gear except for a retractable skid. Any sparks or heat generated from the skid tended to ignite any residual fuel left in the tanks, causing an explosion.

As I see it, this is nothing more than a lube problem. Put enough lube grooves on the skid, (Lots of people sell them here) and pick out an appropriate lube, problem solved.

Tumble lubing, is out, of course, pan lubing is the only way to go on this puppy.

[dmize]

Komets were "operational".
There weren't very many of them produced and never really had a chance to make an impact.
A very dear friend of mine was the flight engineer in a B-17 from '44 to the end of the war. He said that he only saw 3, but they always took a bomber down with them.
He also talked of the 262's,apparently they scared the hell out of everyone.

[popper]

Komet - forerunner of X1. Yes, the 262 was the real threat, but had 2 good passes and then had to refuel. 51 & 38 pi;ots would make a fly over to get them to scramble, shoot em down on takeoff or landing, From stories I've heard, pilots wouldn't even scramble at the last, wouldn't even go to the planes. FIL was a nav on liberator, they were bothered by 109 and FW mostly. He was shot down over Italy and got to come back.

[bowfin]

If the Me-262 units could coordinate with the FW-190s, they would have them cover while they took off and landed. The Focke Wulfes were okay with doing that and letting the Me-262s zoom through the box formations with their superior speed and firepower.

Too little, too late too make a difference on the outcome of the war. I wish I had one of these, though:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/artsmom/Aircraft/794px-F82_twin_mustang.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/artsmom/Aircraft/080221-F-1234S-012.jpg

[popper]

Widow maker - neat, and really fast. I forget the other one, the twin boom with center cockpit.

[Longwood]

Any airplane,, is simple enough to land.

Together and complete,,,, is another story with some of them.

[bowfin]

The aircraft shown in the pictures are F-82 Twing Mustangs. They were a stopgap design to provide bomber escort until the jets became more reliable and developed longer range. A few of them mixed it up with the North Koreans during the opening days of the Korean War with pretty good success.

The P-61 Black Widow looked like this:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/artsmom/p61_large.jpg

The Black Widow looks somewhat clunky, but it had surprising maneuverability because of its well designed flaps. However, it wasn't much of a climber.

[JeffinNZ]

The Comet was the epitome of 'short legs'.

[oldred]

If the Me-262 units could coordinate with the FW-190s, they would have them cover while they took off and landed. The Focke Wulfes were okay with doing that and letting the Me-262s zoom through the box formations with their superior speed and firepower.

Too little, too late too make a difference on the outcome of the war. I wish I had one of these, though:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/artsmom/Aircraft/794px-F82_twin_mustang.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/artsmom/Aircraft/080221-F-1234S-012.jpg



I think a twin Mustang scored the first official air to air kill of the Koren war.

[WILCO]

I think a twin Mustang scored the first official air to air kill of the Koren war.

You're correct Sir!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang

"During the Korean War, Japan-based F-82s were among the first USAF aircraft to operate over Korea. The first three North Korean aircraft destroyed by U.S. forces were shot down by F-82s, the first being a North-Korean Yak-11 downed over Gimpo by the USAF 68th Fighter Squadron."

[Bill*]

I hope Recluse's book does so well he can buy one himself.

[Bad Water Bill]

BUT---BUT---BUT

Recluse has not responded HERE yet as to if he is even interested.

And YES to his fantastic book. I could not put it down till I finished it SEVERAL days later.

In my opinion we have a great author in our midst and have never been aware of it.

[Moonie]

Ain't no bathtub sitting in the place. The bathtub is inside of the PRESIDENTIAL RR car.

Cast iron bathtub with outboard motor affixed, yes there is.