Mr. Bullet Feeder or GSI

[evil5826]

Its gonna happen sooner or later. Some one sell me on one or the other in terms of use. I realise GSI has is own seater and the next stage can be used for crimping which i like cause i can use the lee manu crimp. If I go Mr. Bullet feeder I sacrafice a station and have to use my RCBS bulletseater/crimp die, which can be messy. Some may say take out the powder check. Safer for me not to. Don't want a squib, simple as that. On the other hand I have heard some issues about GSI and it jamming.

As you can see I am fighting myself here.

So please any opinions, experience and ideas on the two loaders is welcomed.

[Alvarez Kelly]

I have not used either, but I do know that results depend, at last in part, on what caliber you are loading.

So? What caliber(s) do you plan on using the bullet feeder for?

[evil5826]

9mm and 45acp
Those are two main ones I am slinging at the range.

[jmorris]

I have both. I use the GSI for 9mm, 38/357, 40 and 45, as you noted you can seat and crimp in two stations and retain the PC die. I use the KISS for rifle. I just buy the feeders only and built my own collators.

[evil5826]

From what I have found around the forums. The GSI can lose its timing and can shave lead off of cast bullets. #1 thing for me is it works with cast bullets. I understand Ill have to use Mica/Talc, not a big deal to me.

[jmorris]

Timing wouldn't be a problem with cast bullets. The bullet is inside a rotating disk of steel, a spring in the center holds the bullet in place. If the case can enter the bottom of the disk and you belled correctly your good to go. In any case the bullet is guided better than your fingers can do while seating.

[evil5826]

Any one got any links of vids showing GSI or MBF loading lead cast? Youtube only shows jacketed.

[jmorris]

I don't have any videos of cast lead just photos but the process doesn't look any different. FWIW I only use cast in the GSI feeders.

[evil5826]

Damn ok then. I been looking around and you have been in all the forums stating you only use GSI for cast. Since no one else has been chiming in.... looks like you have sold me on the GSI.

[jmorris]

You might do a search over at brianenos.com lots of folks with feeders over there.

[evil5826]

You might do a search over at brianenos.com lots of folks with feeders over there.

Thanks again for the info.
One question since i know you use a GSI and made your own collator.... what do you use lube wise?

[jmorris]

I use a water based dip lube designed for stamp forming steel parts.

[evil5826]

I use a water based dip lube designed for stamp forming steel parts.

Anything like Corbin Dip Lube?

[jmorris]

Don't know, never had any to try.

[evil5826]

Don't know, never had any to try.

I guess it's a secret then. Fair nuff.

[Alan in Vermont]

What are these magical devices you are talking about? This inquiring mind needs to know this stuff.

[evil5826]

What are these magical devices you are talking about? This inquiring mind needs to know this stuff.

Just trying to figure out what water base dip lube he is using.
Corbin dip lube is from Corbin better known for swaging products.
It can be found here http://www.corbins.com/chemical.htm but you will have to scroll down a little.

[jmorris]

Sorry, no super secret. Its IMCRO DRY 680-000.

Likely better stuff out there but I didn't know anything when I started (or didn't know about this place) and a little of it goes a very long way.

If you send me a little of the corbin stuff I'll try it and see if it's any better.

[evil5826]

Not finding IMCRO DRY 680-000 any where on the net. If I only search for that phrase, google just points to this conversation.

[jmorris]

Thats no good.

They sent me a half gallon "sample" 8 years or so ago (told you a little goes a long way). Maybe you can find something out from the patent #.



http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/IMAG1034.jpg

[jmorris]

Guess it would help if my fingers wern't dyslexic.

Edit: Still not good news, my google only brought up a 6 year old thread I posted on THR.

[evil5826]

The M and the R were in the wrong spelling order.
Found the site http://www.irmco.com/
Must have to call them to see what products they have. Their documentation doesn't say much.

[jmorris]

They are still in business. I say shoot them an email.

http://www.irmco.com/