CB loads for the 25-35 Win or 25 Rem

[bascom32423]

Hi,

Does anyone have any cast bullet loads for the 25-35 Winchester or the 25 Remington?

Thanks,
Henry

[drinks]

Any load for a jacketed bullet should be ok with a cast bullet of the same weight, with cast gas check bullets the loads in IMR 4198 , BLC2 and IMR 4895 will likely give more velocity, as always, start at least 10% or more down from maximums
To make lower velocity loads 2400, H110 and IMR 4227 would do well.
Search for Lyman's site, they may have some loads listed.
Don

[9.3X62AL]

The 25-35 I have (Win 94 flatband) has the 1-8" twist commonly used in this caliber. The new Trail's End variants also use this twist. Cast boolits do not take kindly to being run much faster than 1600 FPS in such environments, as stated by those using the poured critters in the 6.5 x 55. I'm using a 100% density load of WC-860 currently with the NEI 114 FPGC, and it does pretty decent work to 100 yards.

[w30wcf]

bascom,

There's a lot of .25-35 reloading info here. It's a lengthy thread and there is some cast bullet data contained therein.
http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=20108

w30wcf

[Char-Gar]

Most folks think, and old load manual said, that 25-35 and 25 Rem. data is interchangable. Well maybe so and maybe not. When it comes to cast bullet, it is worth nothing that the Winchester round uses a 1-8 twist barrel and the Remington round uses a 1-10 twist barrel. That will make a significant difference when it comes to cast bullet.

[bascom32423]

Hi,

Does anyone have any cast bullet loads for the 25-35 Winchester or the 25 Remington?

Thanks,
Henry

Thanks to all who have responded to my request.

I was really looking for 25 Remington loads. Here are the results of one of my test strings. I've recently acquired a 25 Remington built on a Mauser 98 action with a 26" Adams & Bennett. The rifle was built by Terry Clifton of Grand Ridge, FL. I fired-lapped the barrel according to directions given by Marshall Stanton of Beartooth Bullets.

I used Meister Bullets. I weighed the bullets and only used bullets of identical weight per powder charge. After fire-forming the brass from 30 Remington brass, the cases were neck-sized with a custom Lee Collet die. A small tuft of Dacron was used to keep the powder charge next to primer. The assembled round was crimped with custom Lee Factory Crimp Die. Starting at 4.0 grains of Unique, the powder charge was increased in 0.5 grain increments. I have only gone to 6.0 grains. The rifle also appears to very accurate with jacketed bullets.

I also have a Remington Model 8 in 25 Remington. The barrel is almost mint. It too has been fire-lapped. I'll be posting some cast bullets targets fired with this rifle.

Group size is 0.13 not 0.013. Sorry about that. :sad:

[Char-Gar]

Ahh yes..the 25 Remington. I started with a Remington 15 pump in that caliber and added a 30S bolt gun, also in 25 Remington. The 30S was the first true MOA rifle I ever owned. (This was about 1960 or so). I could dig out the data, but I used 87 and 100 grain Sierra bullets with just about all the 4895 the little case could hold.

I slew all manner of varmints, several whitetail and one really big mulie buck with the 30S. Being dumb and still young I swaped it off for something and I don't remember what. One of the most stupid things I have ever done.

How are you handling that case in a Mauser action. The bolt head is rather large for that caliber and the action rails a tad wide. I have often though about getting a Savage short action in .223 and barreling it to .25 Remington. The bolt face would had to be opened up just a tad, but that should not be too much of a problem.

I think I would go with a 1-12 twist, which would be friendlier with cast and I had good results killing deer with 100 grain condom bullets.

Keep me posted on how things work..I thought I was the only 25 Remington fan still alive.

[Bent Ramrod]

Bascom and Chargar,

Please add me to the list of .25 Remington fans. I have a Model 8 and a Model 30 in that caliber. The Model 30 will sometimes do sub minute of angle groups for me at 200 yards. Haven't tried cast bullets in either one, except to do a little fire lapping on the Model 8.

Too bad about the .25 Remington. Estey's book on woodchuck hunting gave it high marks, but the only bolt gun chambered for it was a pretty expensive rifle in the late 1920's. A year or two later, the .22 Hornet, which could be made up in less-expensive rifles, came along, and the .25 Remington was forgotten in an avalanche of high-speed .22 centerfires (including, ironically, a necked-down .25 Remington). I've thought of trying to make one up on a Greek Mannlicher action I have lying around; another "future project."

My standard .25-35 cast bullet load is any gas check or plain base cast bullet of 90-110 grains with 9.0 gr of SR-4759.