Johnny_Cyclone
06-23-2012, 01:59 PM
Today at the range the subject of "BEST" 1911 Magazines came up.. [smilie=b:
As usual everyone had a reason for their favorite.
One guy just wasn't getting the what the big deal was, and was feeling left out as he couldn't join into the fun jist of the conversation.
So I tried to explain it to him something like this:
I said let us say you have a Glock 19, The Glock 19 is made by Glock. If you own one you have two manufacturers for magazines: Glock and KCI. As far as I know that's it.
That's One gun manufacture and two magazine manufactures.
I said the 1911 design has an untold number of manufactures and many, many magazine manufactures.
So the problems we hear of are folks using "X" manufactures 1911 designed gun, and working it with whatever manufactures magazine.
So "X" 1911 may work with "AA" and AC" mags, but not "AB mags. Where a "Y" made 1911 will work with "AB" and "AC" mags, but the "Q" made 1911 wont work with those three mags, but runs amazingly well with "Z" mags.
"L" 1911 will run with all mags unless HP ammo is used then it won't run with "O" mags, but all others run well.
I said in 1911's we have ramped and unramped barrels. We have 3.5 inch to 6" bbls. We have short grip frames and tall grip frames. We have custom tight..tight target 1911's and sloppy beater 1911's.
Not counting all the little changes: series 70, series 80, standard extractor, external extractor, etc.
1911's have and kept being being manufactured for over 100 years. They are not all the same exact spec..
Someone, somewhere is not going to get the right mag with the right gun. The tolerance stack up will be wrong. I said their going to post their issue and 50 people are going to repeat it. Then 50 more are going to repeat what those 50 said and so on.
I said if we could get 20 manufactures making the Glock 19 style pistols and 6 magazine manufactures making mags you'd see what happens.
I said in the end there prpbably wouldn't be a best magazine manufacturer out of those 6 for all 20 different manufactures Glock 19 style designs...
Am I thinking wrong here?
Thanks,
kinda like pizza, if all we could get was a three cheese pizza then our only choices would be what crust and what size...but.. if we can have a choice of 7 more types of pizza along with a choice of 12 different toppings then only certain combos may work for our taste buds. However, that same combo may not work for others even though most of us are the same basic design. Only difference being were from different manufactures..:smile:...wait maybe I'm just hungry
Could be, that subconsciously, I was suffering withdraw at not having another magazine thread to read..lol.. in a way, it's kinda like bench racing.
As usual everyone had a reason for their favorite.
One guy just wasn't getting the what the big deal was, and was feeling left out as he couldn't join into the fun jist of the conversation.
So I tried to explain it to him something like this:
I said let us say you have a Glock 19, The Glock 19 is made by Glock. If you own one you have two manufacturers for magazines: Glock and KCI. As far as I know that's it.
That's One gun manufacture and two magazine manufactures.
I said the 1911 design has an untold number of manufactures and many, many magazine manufactures.
So the problems we hear of are folks using "X" manufactures 1911 designed gun, and working it with whatever manufactures magazine.
So "X" 1911 may work with "AA" and AC" mags, but not "AB mags. Where a "Y" made 1911 will work with "AB" and "AC" mags, but the "Q" made 1911 wont work with those three mags, but runs amazingly well with "Z" mags.
"L" 1911 will run with all mags unless HP ammo is used then it won't run with "O" mags, but all others run well.
I said in 1911's we have ramped and unramped barrels. We have 3.5 inch to 6" bbls. We have short grip frames and tall grip frames. We have custom tight..tight target 1911's and sloppy beater 1911's.
Not counting all the little changes: series 70, series 80, standard extractor, external extractor, etc.
1911's have and kept being being manufactured for over 100 years. They are not all the same exact spec..
Someone, somewhere is not going to get the right mag with the right gun. The tolerance stack up will be wrong. I said their going to post their issue and 50 people are going to repeat it. Then 50 more are going to repeat what those 50 said and so on.
I said if we could get 20 manufactures making the Glock 19 style pistols and 6 magazine manufactures making mags you'd see what happens.
I said in the end there prpbably wouldn't be a best magazine manufacturer out of those 6 for all 20 different manufactures Glock 19 style designs...
Am I thinking wrong here?
Thanks,
kinda like pizza, if all we could get was a three cheese pizza then our only choices would be what crust and what size...but.. if we can have a choice of 7 more types of pizza along with a choice of 12 different toppings then only certain combos may work for our taste buds. However, that same combo may not work for others even though most of us are the same basic design. Only difference being were from different manufactures..:smile:...wait maybe I'm just hungry
Could be, that subconsciously, I was suffering withdraw at not having another magazine thread to read..lol.. in a way, it's kinda like bench racing.