.30/.357 or .300 rimmed BLK?

[DeanWinchester]

Anyone shooting this round? I run a few .357 magnums through my 300 BLK die and they look awesome. I know Assassin builds them, just curious if anyone else has put them to use.
Looks like the perfect round for a single shot, it'd be very gently on my messed up eyes.

[wiljen]

modern day rook rifle, be about perfect for a remake of the old stevens crackshot if somebody would make one with modern steels. Be good in a baby rolling block too.

[DeanWinchester]

Great idea. Wonder what rolling block action would be suitable for this pressure range?

[leadman]

Mike Bellm has a rimmed case like this on his website. Think he uses 357 max brass to form it.

[DeanWinchester]

Ideally maximum brass does do better because you end up with a short neck using magnum brass. Maximum brass is hard to get by comparison though. If one were going to be shooting cast through it though the max brass is the way to go though.

[wiljen]

Great idea. Wonder what rolling block action would be suitable for this pressure range?

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda-prodotto.asp/l_en/idpr_181/rifles-rolling-block-rolling-block-baby-carbine.html

chambered in 357 Mag now, a barrel swap should be all you'd need.

[DeanWinchester]

Yeah, but that's so pretty. Don't know if I could snatch the barrel out of it if I had one.

[heathydee]

I have a Martini Cadet in 30-357 Magnum . It will push a 160gn CBE cast boolit to around 1650fps with good accuracy - just over MOA . The cartridge is also known as the 30 Paxton .

[TCLouis]

I have a Francotte action that I traded in to years ago.

I call it a 357 Max, Short, Long Neck.

esentially a trimmed 357 Max case run through a 30X221 die.

Thank goodness I got a couple of cases with it to go from.

The rifle sat around for several years while I decided what to do, then tried 30X357 Max dies from Jim Rock, then stumbled over the facts and tried the 30X221.

The original owner was one of the "Crusty Ol Fart" gunsmiths that apparently used it for competition as the cases were neck turned and marked for chambering consistently.

Barrel was from one of his "shot out throat" 308 target rifles that he had set back more than once so it has holes everywhere from various mountings.

He was deceased and this was being sold by his shooting buddy who knew NOTHING about the chambering so he knew of no load data.
Shoots good with 30X221 loads.

Gotta try it with REAL boolits one of these days.

[DeanWinchester]

Well, I'm intrigued to the point of being hooked. One of our own here is a master of barrel stubbing Handi Rifles to other calibers. I was convinced I wanted a .218 Bee...until I seen this.
He uses a .300 blackout reamer and then counterbores the chamber for the rim.

I've already got loaded ammo! I ran a dozen .357's through my 300 blk die then topped it off with a little 110g FMJ over 19g of 'lil gun. I know better than to load for a gun I don't have but I couldn't help it. They were just so cool lookin'.

[crabo]

Where's the pictures?

[williamwaco]

I think it is a great idea. Has been ever since it was invented 130 years ago.

You can see it here:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261765/remington-express-ammunition-32-20-wcf-100-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-50

If you want a more modern version:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261765/remington-express-ammunition-32-20-wcf-100-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-50

or if you want a military version:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953120613/federal-american-eagle-ammunition-30-carbine-110-grain-full-metal-jacket

And yes three are at least a half dozen others but I have used all three of these. They are all very good performers and loads of fun.

( Use the 311008 in any of them )


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[DeanWinchester]

I think it is a great idea. Has been ever since it was invented 130 years ago.

You can see it here:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261765/remington-express-ammunition-32-20-wcf-100-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-50

If you want a more modern version:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/261765/remington-express-ammunition-32-20-wcf-100-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-50

or if you want a military version:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953120613/federal-american-eagle-ammunition-30-carbine-110-grain-full-metal-jacket

And yes three are at least a half dozen others but I have used all three of these. They are all very good performers and loads of fun.

( Use the 311008 in any of them )


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Mehh, this has a bit more potential than the 30 carbine. And as far as the 32/20 goes, thats an unfair comparison. All my 30 cal molds drop 310-.311. Not big enough for the typical 32/20. This allows me to use the pile of molds I already have.

[Fishman]

30 herrett?

[DeanWinchester]

30 herrett?

Bbbbbut I love 30/30 too much to chop up those cases:p

[DeanWinchester]

Okay guys, Starline does not make maximum brass but they do make something called 360 DW.

Is it possible to use it in place of maximum brass. The exterior will work just fine but the description says it has a modified web. Modified in what way? Reduced capacity?

[wiljen]

360 DW is a bit shorter than the 357 max and does have a heavy web/base as it was designed to be a fairly high pressure round. 357 max brass is made from the 2nd draw of 223 remington brass so has similar construction.

[DeanWinchester]

360 DW is a bit shorter than the 357 max and does have a heavy web/base as it was designed to be a fairly high pressure round. 357 max brass is made from the 2nd draw of 223 remington brass so has similar construction.

So it would not be a suitable replacement even though it would be long enough, because of the smaller case capacity.

[nanuk]

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda-prodotto.asp/l_en/idpr_181/rifles-rolling-block-rolling-block-baby-carbine.html

chambered in 357 Mag now, a barrel swap should be all you'd need.

I have an Uberti Baby RB in .357.... a beautiful piece of work

I'm not sure I could change it, but you never know....


What would the advantage be to go from 35 to 30 cal?

[TCLouis]

open the Baby RB to 360 DW then send pics of the targets and Chrono data

[paul h]

Okay guys, Starline does not make maximum brass but they do make something called 360 DW.

Is it possible to use it in place of maximum brass. The exterior will work just fine but the description says it has a modified web. Modified in what way? Reduced capacity?

My buddy used 360dw brass for his 300 whisper rimmed contender. It worked perfectly as the 360dw is a 1.4" case, same length as the 221 f-ball. Run it through your full length 300 sizer and trim if needed.

I don't recall my buddy mentioning needing different loads when he used the 360dw brass, but if it has less powder capacity than the 221, you will need to work up to your max loads as the 300 bk is a small capacity case.