45 Colt Brass length Question

[wilded]

Can I just cut down my standard 45 colt brass to Schofield or shorter length for my black powder conversion cylinder so as not to shoot such a hot BP load as I can not leave space in the case and do not want to use filler or wads? Thanks, ET

[Don McDowell]

Yes you could do that , or you could purchase "schofield" cases.
You could also load with 2f or 1f and use more case space with less powder than 3f.

[wilded]

Don't Schofields have a bigger diameter rim? Thanks, ET

[Don McDowell]

It's possible that there may have been a slight rim differrence in the past, but I would just about bet that todays starline brass is simply 45 colt brass shortened and headstamped schofield.

[John Boy]

I shoot Schofields in my Remington NMA's with R&D cylinders - no issues

[wilded]

I shoot Schofields in my Remington NMA's with R&D cylinders - no issues

Thank you sir, that answers my question. ET:awesome:

['74 sharps]

My RCBS dies are marked for both calibers........

[Dan Cash]

Cut a felt wad from 3/16 weather stripping. Besides occupying space, it reduces fouling, gives higher velocity and is less trouble.

[jlchucker]

It's possible that there may have been a slight rim differrence in the past, but I would just about bet that todays starline brass is simply 45 colt brass shortened and headstamped schofield.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

[StrawHat]

To use even less powder, consider the 45 Special,

http://www.cowboy45special.com/

Basically, it is the 45 long Colt cut to the length of the 45 ACP. Uses a lot less powder!

[wilded]

I looked at the powder capacity of the cowboy special and need something between that and the .45 colt so the Scohfield looks to be the best choice so far. thanks, ET

[Springfield]

If you use bullets with longer bases that also helps fill up the space. Here are 3 bullets with weights between 170 and 250 grains. Hold more BP lube also. If you just cut down the 45 Colt cases the inside diameter will be smaller than normal unless you ream out the insides. Just buy some Schofield cases, that's what I do. They also work in most rifles while the 45 Cowboy Special tends to be too short.

[Grapeshot]

Some of the early R&D Conversion Cylinders for the 1858 Remington had rebated chambers for the .45 Colt Rounds. The Schofield rims are still larger in diameter than the .45 Colt or Cowboy Special. I load for all three and have to use a different shell holder for the Schofield.

I had 100 nickled .45 Colt cases that I trimed back to .45 Schofield length to use in my R&D Conversion and they worked well using 165 grain .452 diameted hollow based round nose boolits I made in my swaging machine.

Heavier boolits tended to shot very high. Light weight boolits or round balls are the way to go when shooting conversions.

Dick Dastardly over in www.cascity.com sells the EPP-UG molds for light weight .45 big lube boolits.

[bigted]

If you use bullets with longer bases that also helps fill up the space. Here are 3 bullets with weights between 170 and 250 grains. Hold more BP lube also. If you just cut down the 45 Colt cases the inside diameter will be smaller than normal unless you ream out the insides. Just buy some Schofield cases, that's what I do. They also work in most rifles while the 45 Cowboy Special tends to be too short.

id really like a mould that throws that deeeeep groove 250 grain...can u tell where to aquire it from?

[Don McDowell]

Ted google up Big Lube moulds , also look at the offerings from accurate. Be forewarned tho those things don't shoot particularly well when you get past the volkswagon bus sized target at 15 yds commonly associated with CAS type events.

[bigted]

riteon. i have looked at similar bolits on the accurate home page but they look like the huge amount of lube would keep the fouling down with the sixguns. never dawned on me that the bearing surface is compromised and so would go accuracy. AND...maybe if i shot at volkswagon bus targets i would do better...LOL if that is they were kinda close!!!

[Springfield]

bigted: I have that mould and if you would like to try some before putting out all that money for an "inaccurate" bullet mould I would be happy to send you 50 for the price of shipping(5 bucks). I can send them as cast, just sized or sized and lubed, makes no never mind to me. Funny, I don't remember which model of Volkswagen was 18" in size. Musta been a special model for The Chipmunks. I can hit a 24" steel plate at 200 yards with my Henry using my 44 Big Lube mould, must be a fluke.

[Don McDowell]

http://www.quigleymatch.com/target-info.html