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twopatch
05-02-2012, 01:21 AM
Besides, having 2 different weights. 90gn.,120gn. I can't figure that one out. The lyman cast bullet handbook 3rd edition, calls that mold the 358242. In the 4th edition it calls that mold the 356242. My question is this the same mold or did they make the 356 smaller? I am trying to find a .357/8 plinker,for the 9mm cylander for my blackhawk.

beagle
05-03-2012, 01:10 AM
It's the same mould. Lyman has been all over the spectrum with prefixes on some designs. I'll be willing to bet that 356242 casts around .358+.

Another rambler is the 424098/427098/429098. I've seen all three prefixes and most cast around .428" from my experiences./beagle

9.3X62AL
05-03-2012, 01:42 AM
My example of Lyman #358242 (121 grain) RN casts at .359" in 92/6/2 alloy, and runs well in my 9mm pistols and 38 Specials--sized correctly for each caliber.

Echo
05-03-2012, 03:10 AM
Mine is of the 92 grain persuasion - I use it for popcorn in 38's, TL'd. Sweet little boolit.

rintinglen
05-03-2012, 03:19 AM
I have a 4 cavity 358-242 122 grain mold, and a 2 cavity 356-242 90 grain mold. They both cast right at .358, the lighter boolit just under, the heavier one just over. Lyman has apparently taken the old saying "consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" to heart. Over the years, their appellations have wandered back and forth. 308-291, 311-291 anyone? In my alloy, the old 308-291 is actually larger than the 2-cavity 311-291 that I have. Go figure.

twopatch
05-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Thanks for the replys.

MT Gianni
05-03-2012, 06:26 PM
I have two DC that both say 358242. Neither cast smaller than .358.

GunFun
12-09-2012, 09:27 PM
Hi. This is my first post, so please forgive me if I am breaching some forum etiquette. I've been lurking off and on for a year or two, and recently got into casting 12 gauge slugs. I am overly active on the saiga 12 forum, and want to send more lead down range on a tight budget. I have been reading up on reloading for years, but only started in the last few months.

I've got a box of over a thousands LRN bullets that measure .355" in dia, & .450" tall. They weigh 92 grains each and have blue or red lube bands. I was told that they were made by speer, but searching has led me to believe they actually were cast using the lyman mold mentioned above.

I cannot find any data for these loads, and won't have the funds to buy any old manuals for a month or two. So I am stuck with what I have to shoot for a while, or not shoot. I know they are intended for .380 ACP, but they look to be workable. I slugged the barrel on my 9mm with one and found it to be within safe tolernances. Mockup rounds fed well enough by hand cycling.

Are there any available recipes for these 92 grain bullets in 9x19, & .38 SPL. I am looking for reliable and safe, not high performance.
The powders I have on hand are Green Got, bullseye, and WSF, along with some shotgun and rifle powders that are probably not helpful. I would prefer bullseye, and would apreciate knowing a starting weight, what you ended up with, and max load.

Thanks.

MtGun44
12-10-2012, 12:26 AM
My 90 gr version casts too small to shoot well in the .380, shoots OK in the .38 Spl but
not nearly as good as a WC or several other SWCs. I have the 120 gr version,
have not cast with it yet.

Bill

Le Loup Solitaire
12-10-2012, 01:30 AM
I have a 2 cav and a one cav of 358242 and both are over 20 years old. They both drop bullets at .358 and I shoot them unsized in the 9 mm and the 38 special. No problems with either mold anywhere along the line. Cast wight is consistent, feeding, accuracy are always good using straight WW. LLS

rintinglen
12-10-2012, 12:27 PM
Hi. This is my first post, so please forgive me if I am breaching some forum etiquette. I've been lurking off and on for a year or two, and recently got into casting 12 gauge slugs. I am overly active on the saiga 12 forum, and want to send more lead down range on a tight budget. I have been reading up on reloading for years, but only started in the last few months.

I've got a box of over a thousands LRN bullets that measure .355" in dia, & .450" tall. They weigh 92 grains each and have blue or red lube bands. I was told that they were made by speer, but searching has led me to believe they actually were cast using the lyman mold mentioned above.

I cannot find any data for these loads, and won't have the funds to buy any old manuals for a month or two. So I am stuck with what I have to shoot for a while, or not shoot. I know they are intended for .380 ACP, but they look to be workable. I slugged the barrel on my 9mm with one and found it to be within safe tolernances. Mockup rounds fed well enough by hand cycling.

Are there any available recipes for these 92 grain bullets in 9x19, & .38 SPL. I am looking for reliable and safe, not high performance.
The powders I have on hand are Green Got, bullseye, and WSF, along with some shotgun and rifle powders that are probably not helpful. I would prefer bullseye, and would apreciate knowing a starting weight, what you ended up with, and max load.

Thanks.

3.0 grains of WW-231 or HP38 works very nicely in both my Walther and Berretta. Lyman lists a starting lpoad 0f 2.3 and a max of 3.5. 2.3 won't function either of my 380 s I'd start at 2.6, then go up .2 grains until I found a load that functioned well. I have also used 2.7 grains of bullseye, 3.5 Grains of Unique, and 4.0 grains of Power Pistol.

GunFun
12-10-2012, 10:18 PM
Thanks.

To clarify, I was asking for load data for 9mm Luger, not 9mm Kurz/.380 ACP. The pistol is a taurus PT99AF (more or less beretta 92) Is there avaliable data fur using Bullseye with this 92 grain bullet in 9x19?

The other gun I would like to use it in is a 6" large frame S&W .357 using .38SPL brass.

MtGun44
12-10-2012, 10:48 PM
Look at Hodgdon's site. Nothing for 90 grain bullets in your loading manuals? You can
use Jbullet data with no problems, as long as the weight is close and you locate the
base of the bullet/boolit about at the same location in the case.

Bill

GunFun
12-10-2012, 11:33 PM
There was 90 grain LRN load that is very similar, but no 92 grain LRN data. 95 grn FMJ in 9x19 says to start at 3.5 grn BE to a max of 5.0, so I guess I will go with that and work up .5 grn at a time until it cycles reliably. Does that sound reasonable and safe?