hs45/70
04-09-2007, 03:43 PM
Finally managed to locate some Trail Boss powder to test various calibers for reduced loads. Like many others, have gone the pistol/shotgun powder route and was looking for something that provided more case volume . For those that like reduced loads, here are some of my results.
****PLEASE be advised almost 95 % of this load data is not in any manual*****
These were fired in a Ruger #3 45/70 22 inch brl. 3x9scope
Lyman 330 HP wc wheelweights .. WW cases ..WW Lrprimers
Full 45/70 case holds 27.5 gr Trail boss.
13.0 gr Trail Boss..1024..1083..1092 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.44 inch
14.0 gr Trail Boss..1117..1076..1128 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.83 inch
15.0 gr Trail boss..1187..1159..1151 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.72 inch
16.0 gr. Trail boss..1228..1230..1220 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.92 inch
190 grain gas checked wadcutter seated flush with case rim
14.0 gr. Trailboss..1298..1350..n/r......3 shots/ 75 yards/ 2.00 inch
15.0 gr Trailboss..1443..1435..1434..3 shots/75 yds/ 1.70 inch
16.0 gr Trail boss.1471..1465..1483..3 shots/75 yds/ 0.90 inch
150 grain round ball seated flush with case rim
14.0 gr. Trail boss..1448..1419..1430 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 2.30 inch
15.0 gr. Trail boss..1496..1434..1430 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 2.00 inch
16.0 gr. Trail Boss..1565..1543..1570 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 1.70 inch
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1972 .444 Marlin 22 inch micro-groove 3x9 scope
RP cases, ww lrp w/c wwts. Full case of Trail boss is 23.0 grains
240 gr RCBS GC
8.0 gr. Trail Boss..939..935..955 fps....3 shots/50 yds/ 2.0 inch
9.0 gr Trail Boss...1040..1028..1042....3 shots/50 yds/ 0.90 inch
10.0 gr TB............1110..1095..1108.... 3 shots/50 yds/ 1.20 inch
11.0 gr TB............no readings...............3 shots/50 yds/1.30 inch
12.0 gr TB...one reading..1241 fps...... 3 shots/50 yds/ 1.03 inch
13.0 gr TB...no readings........................3 shots/50 yds/ 1.10 inch
14.0 gr TB..one reading..1338 fps.........3 shots/ 50 yds/ 1.50 inch
315 grain NEI PB @325 grains actual wt.
9.0 grains Trail Boss..905..898..889 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.00 inch
10.0 gr. TB.................967..963..966 fps...3 shots/50 yds/..0.55 inch
11.0 gr. TB.......... 1044..1034..1030 fps..3 shots/50 yds/1.10 inch
12.0 gr. TB...1083..1073..n/r..fps...3.0 inch/50 yds
13.0 gr .TB...1139..nr..nr fps..3.40 inch/50 yds
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Rem 788 .308..18.5 inch brl. Lyman 155 grain 311466 gas check .wc wwts.
IVI CDN military case w.w .Lrp
Case capacity is 18.1 grains of Trail Boss
8.0 gr. Trail Boss..1077..1033..1046 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.05 inch
9.0 gr. TB.............1131..1129..1134 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.475 inch
10.0 gr TB............1220..1211..1193 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.88 inch
11.0 gr TB............1299..1324..1290 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.45 inch
12.0 gr TB............1351..1348..1349 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.09 inch
13.0 gr TB............1395..1411.1394 fps....3 shots/50 yds/ 0.840 inch
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Fired 240 gr Hornady in .444 and got under an inch at 50 yds with all TB loads used for cast... In .308 also fired Norma 95 gr. rn fmj..123 gr (.309) Lapua spz fmj and 150 gr. Norma soft point at 75 yards with at least 2 loads in each string under one inch. Also tested Trail boss in .222 and .223 remington with 45 gr Hornady Hornet and 55 Rem Fmj as I have no mold nor access to any .224 cast bullets....
Can provide load data if its of value but no chronograph data as it was shot a month ago in a bit of our lengthy rainy season..
****PLEASE be advised almost 95 % of this load data is not in any manual*****
These were fired in a Ruger #3 45/70 22 inch brl. 3x9scope
Lyman 330 HP wc wheelweights .. WW cases ..WW Lrprimers
Full 45/70 case holds 27.5 gr Trail boss.
13.0 gr Trail Boss..1024..1083..1092 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.44 inch
14.0 gr Trail Boss..1117..1076..1128 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.83 inch
15.0 gr Trail boss..1187..1159..1151 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.72 inch
16.0 gr. Trail boss..1228..1230..1220 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.92 inch
190 grain gas checked wadcutter seated flush with case rim
14.0 gr. Trailboss..1298..1350..n/r......3 shots/ 75 yards/ 2.00 inch
15.0 gr Trailboss..1443..1435..1434..3 shots/75 yds/ 1.70 inch
16.0 gr Trail boss.1471..1465..1483..3 shots/75 yds/ 0.90 inch
150 grain round ball seated flush with case rim
14.0 gr. Trail boss..1448..1419..1430 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 2.30 inch
15.0 gr. Trail boss..1496..1434..1430 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 2.00 inch
16.0 gr. Trail Boss..1565..1543..1570 fps..3 shots/75 yds/ 1.70 inch
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1972 .444 Marlin 22 inch micro-groove 3x9 scope
RP cases, ww lrp w/c wwts. Full case of Trail boss is 23.0 grains
240 gr RCBS GC
8.0 gr. Trail Boss..939..935..955 fps....3 shots/50 yds/ 2.0 inch
9.0 gr Trail Boss...1040..1028..1042....3 shots/50 yds/ 0.90 inch
10.0 gr TB............1110..1095..1108.... 3 shots/50 yds/ 1.20 inch
11.0 gr TB............no readings...............3 shots/50 yds/1.30 inch
12.0 gr TB...one reading..1241 fps...... 3 shots/50 yds/ 1.03 inch
13.0 gr TB...no readings........................3 shots/50 yds/ 1.10 inch
14.0 gr TB..one reading..1338 fps.........3 shots/ 50 yds/ 1.50 inch
315 grain NEI PB @325 grains actual wt.
9.0 grains Trail Boss..905..898..889 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.00 inch
10.0 gr. TB.................967..963..966 fps...3 shots/50 yds/..0.55 inch
11.0 gr. TB.......... 1044..1034..1030 fps..3 shots/50 yds/1.10 inch
12.0 gr. TB...1083..1073..n/r..fps...3.0 inch/50 yds
13.0 gr .TB...1139..nr..nr fps..3.40 inch/50 yds
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Rem 788 .308..18.5 inch brl. Lyman 155 grain 311466 gas check .wc wwts.
IVI CDN military case w.w .Lrp
Case capacity is 18.1 grains of Trail Boss
8.0 gr. Trail Boss..1077..1033..1046 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.05 inch
9.0 gr. TB.............1131..1129..1134 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.475 inch
10.0 gr TB............1220..1211..1193 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 0.88 inch
11.0 gr TB............1299..1324..1290 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.45 inch
12.0 gr TB............1351..1348..1349 fps...3 shots/50 yds/ 1.09 inch
13.0 gr TB............1395..1411.1394 fps....3 shots/50 yds/ 0.840 inch
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Fired 240 gr Hornady in .444 and got under an inch at 50 yds with all TB loads used for cast... In .308 also fired Norma 95 gr. rn fmj..123 gr (.309) Lapua spz fmj and 150 gr. Norma soft point at 75 yards with at least 2 loads in each string under one inch. Also tested Trail boss in .222 and .223 remington with 45 gr Hornady Hornet and 55 Rem Fmj as I have no mold nor access to any .224 cast bullets....
Can provide load data if its of value but no chronograph data as it was shot a month ago in a bit of our lengthy rainy season..