MiHec 3 cavity brass solid - 6.5mm Cruise Missle

[45 2.1]

MiHec 3 cavity brass solid - 6.5mm Cruise Missle
This is a run of an earlier Lee GB. This will be a three cavity on two cavity blocks, GC solid brass mold that is suitable for the military 6.5mm rifles. This includes, but is not limited to the 6.5x55 Swede, 6.5mm M-S, 6.5mm Jap. It will cast at 0.268" or just slightly over. There is no discussion thread as this is a widely known boolit design that has not been replicated to the proper dimensions since the first GB ran by Oldfeller. This will will be cut to the ORIGINAL design dimensions.

We will need fifteen to commit to this. We will run this until we get the number we need or more since this should be quite popular. Price is $95 plus $15 shipping.

Sequence of events: Participants order molds and are placed on the list, the Group Buy will close (which will be posted on the thread) at some time determined by MiHec, the molds are made from the orders on the list at the time it is closed or by altering what you want via PM to MiHec after it's closed. Extra molds should be available... order them by PM to MiHec. Invoices will be sent out via e-mail from the listed addresses and you pay by using Paypal...... It is my understanding the invoice will be in Euros which Paypal converts from Euros to dollars. After you pay, the mold gets shipped.

Please list your Forum name and your e-mail address in suitable form and the number of molds you want.

Sign-up List:
1. Spartacus.....wahnehega at usa dot com..... two molds
2. Valley Forge.....lfh at hollywoodsound dot com..... one mold
3. alamogunr.....alamogunr at charter dot net..... one mold
4. Eldorado.....eldoradojeff at hotmail dot com..... one mold
5. gmsharps.....gmsharps at cs dot com..... one mold
6. NYBushBro.....mopedmedic AT hotmail DOT com..... one mold
7. quasi..... c kulyk at telus dot net..... one mold
8. Thaine.....thaine AT yucca DOT net..... one mold
9. sffar.....cheeseburgerfriesandshake at yahoo dot com.....
one mold
10. dromia.....adamatpukkabundhooksdotcom..... one mold
11. HighHook.....pvolkman3 at gmail com.....one mold
12. sourceofuncertainty.....completeusability at gee, maihl.....one mold
13. Crash Corrigan.....crashcorrigan at cox dot net..... one mold
14. midnight.....rwhyte at wi dot rr dot com..... one mold
15. alrighty.....restorerancientiron(@)gmail(dot)com ..... one mold
16. Gunsmoke4570.....gunsmoke4570 at aol dot com.....one mold
17. pearson1662.....6point5mm at Gmail dot com..... one mold
18. PB234.....jeff5tg at yahoo dot com.....one mold
19. Buck348.....buck348@live(dot)com..... one mold
20. junkdude.....junkdude at efirehose dot net.....one mold
21. Mallard57.....jefftrimbleatcharterdotnet .....one mold
22. Dschuttig.....Dschuttig at yahoo dot com..... one mold
23. Cariboo.....keithu7 at yahoo dot ca.....one mold
24. mojavemike1.....mojavemikemb at yahoo dot com.....one mold
25. rikkit..... rikkit at aaahawk dot com.....one mold
26. bowfin.....mjones23 AT neb DOT rr DOT com.....one mold
27. Centex Bill.....wjpuryearATearthlinkDOTnet.....one mold
28. RMerkel.....rmerkel at acm dot org.....one mold and one set of handles
29. jonk.....jonklei AT gmail DOT com.....one mold
30. Gundawg.....guhndawg at gmail dot com.....one mold
31. cosmoline.....lovetick at aol dot com.....one mold
32. crabo.....crabo308 at gmail dot com.....one mold
33. ballistim.....ballistim at yahoo dot com .....one mold
34. kens.....kschott at coastalnow dot net..... one mold
35. ibgp3.....ibgp3atyahoodotcom.....one mold
36. MUSTANG.....BillParsonatHotmail.com..... one mold
37. Mike 60.....oktec60 at yahoo dot com..... one mold
38. Bert2368.....bert (at) hollywoodpyrotechnics (dot) com..... one mold
39. Old Iron Sights.....Gdschanz at gmail dot com..... one mold
40. horsesoldier.....andrew338winATyahooDOTcom..... one mold
41. Smoke4320.....Smoke at Paintball Kingdom dot com..... one mold
42. TreeKiller.....gd16327at gmaildotcom..... one mold
43. Tens.....tmowens44 at juno dot com..... one mold
44. alha.....snowserver (at) hotmail d0t com..... one mold
45. BrassMagnet.....ronaldmeyers at charter dot net..... one mold
46. Khmer6.....Khmer6 at gmail dot com..... one mold
47. Rymark223.....Sbmathews74 at gmail dot com..... one mold
48. Dubble El.....laynel at bigfoot dot com..... one mold
49. pearson1662.....the number six, p o i n t, the number 5, m m @ g m a i l . c o m..... one mold and one set of handles
50. Skunkworks.....skunkworks (at) youmail (dot) dk..... one mold
51. 358wcf.....358wcf at astound dot net..... one mold
52. RWR.....fireball218 at q dot com ..... one mold and One set of handles
53. HikerLT.....HikerLT (at) alum (dot) wpi (dot) edu..... one mold
54. micky blue.....Bowtied underscore micky at yaho0..... one mold
55. dominicfortune00.....dominicfortune00 at yahoo dot com..... one mold
56. micky blue.....Bowtied_micky at yah00..... one mold
57. prsman23.....glingelbach at hntlgh dot com..... one mold
58. Pup.....Jasonwoodcock((((at)))))hotmail.commmmmmmm mm..... one mold
59. CLAYPOOL.....CLAYPOOL @ Southern - Illinois . dot com.....one mold
60.

[Spartacus]

WooHoo! Allow me to be the first to order TWO of these beauties!

wahnehega at usa dot com

[Valley Forge]

I'll take one.
lfh at hollywoodsound dot com

[alamogunr]

Put me down for one.
alamogunr at charter dot net

[ElDorado]

I’d like one mould.

eldoradojeff at hotmail dot com

[Spartacus]

So thats only five molds? Really?

[gmsharps]

I'll take one.

gmsharps at cs dot com

[45 2.1]

So thats only five molds? Really?

Thats what I thought too. For all the trouble everyones had with Lee's tolerences on this mold, I would have thought most of these guys would jump on one cut right............ but the price differential is a big factor too. Whats 0.002" or more oversize when you can buy four of them for the price of one cut right............:mrgreen:

[alamogunr]

I'm a little surprised too. I have seen so many posts about the Oldfeller cruise missile, that I have wanted one for quite some time. In desperation I ordered 2 of the Lee molds from Mid South. I haven't used them yet and just received a 4 cavity from the GB with NOE. Also haven't had a chance to use it yet(just arrived this past weekend). With this one and the NOE mold, I should be able to find loads that will work in my Swedish Mauser.

If anyone is interested, I can part with one or both of the Lee molds. I'm not in a big hurry so I won't post in Swapping & Selling yet.

[NYBushBro]

Count me in for one.
mopedmedic AT hotmail DOT com

[quasi]

I am in for one.

ckulyk AT shaw DOT ca

[wrench]

You guys are gonna break me...:roll:

I'll take one mold.

sam3040 at comcast dot net

[Thaine]

With 4 Swedes, 3 Greeks, 2 Norwegians and a Japanese; I have to have one of these along with a partridge in a pear tree. LOL Count me in.
Thaine
thaine AT yucca DOT net

[PAT303]

The reason I'm not buying one is because I got sick of wasting money on dud molds so I ordered a mold from LBT,I would have bought one otherwise. Pat

[NYBushBro]

At this price (and at the original specs!!!)... I seriously DOUBT this will would be considered a 'DUD' - judging from 45 2.1 (and Oldfeller).

I am looking to reproduce STARMETAL's results (ie: HV) - otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

Still looking for more test results from those intrepid researchers who took up the gauntlet...
what happened?

[NYBushBro]

FIVE to go... and ten years from now, you all will be kickin' yourselves.... in nameless places.

[alamogunr]

At this price (and at the original specs!!!)... I seriously DOUBT this will would be considered a 'DUD' - judging from 45 2.1 (and Oldfeller).

I am looking to reproduce STARMETAL's results (ie: HV) - otherwise, I wouldn't bother.
If you do, don't get into a p*****g match and get yourself banned.
I still miss his posts, just not the prickly part.

Still looking for more test results from those intrepid researchers who took up the gauntlet...
what happened?
I would be interested also.

I doubt that I could ever match either Starmetal's results or those of those he crossed swords(Swedes) with. I'm not that much of an experimenter or that good a shot. I find it interesting to follow the lead of others and see if it works in my rifle.

[45 2.1]

At this price (and at the original specs!!!)... I seriously DOUBT this will would be considered a 'DUD' - judging from 45 2.1 (and Oldfeller).

I am looking to reproduce STARMETAL's results (ie: HV) - otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

Still looking for more test results from those intrepid researchers who took up the gauntlet...
what happened?

Starmetal took two months of daily trials and on the phone help (and almost gave up) before he caught on to the buffer technique. Without learning it properly with lots of help your chances are low of finding it yourself. The results transfer over to all the medium burning smaller cartridges ( say 6mm to under 30 caliber) and its very well worth the time to learn..... but it ain't easy doing so. If you've read the milk jug thread, go back again and look at the last of the instructions. Nobody but Starmetal followed them all.

[NYBushBro]

Thanks for the pep talk...

I DO appreciate it... and once this mold is in my hands, I will recycle a lot of Pb looking the the 'window' (with help.)

[sffar]

Please sign me up for one mould. Will it be possible to get it cut slightly larger, like .270?
Thanks,
Sam

[45 2.1]

Please sign me up for one mould. OK, got your e-mail off another GB... check it please. Will it be possible to get it cut slightly larger, like .270?
Thanks, Sam

If its cut 0.002" bigger, the gas check shank will be also and probably might be rather tight or not fit.

[sffar]

If its cut 0.002" bigger, the gas check shank will be also and probably might be rather tight or not fit.

Okay. I'll give the healthy .268 a try. Thanks for putting my email address on the list. Should know better than to forget to add the address!
Sam

[dromia]

I'm in.

[Pepe Ray]

How is the payment transaction being conducted?
Pepe Ray

[45 2.1]

How is the payment transaction being conducted?
Pepe Ray

I think Miha uses PayPal................ i'm not sure though.

[Spartacus]

Yes. Miha sends a PayPal request when the mold is ready to be shipped.

He would probably accept cash in the mail as well.

[MostlyOnThePaper]

After reading the exhaustive amount of info I gotta try one of these please

kc5vtk at comcast dot net

[HighHook]

I Agree you guys are killing me as well. Who in there right mind would own over 100 molds. This is the last mold i am buying..... I said that over 80 molds ago.

I am in for one.
pvolkman3 at gmail com

[Spartacus]

45 2.1 I will commit to two more of these to get us on Miha's production list as soon as possible.

If and when you get a couple more signups, just subtract them from mine until I'm down to my original two. Or if nobody else signs up I'll pay for 4 total and keep a couple for a rainy day.

[GaryN]

Anybody know how much this boolit will weigh? I'm thinking of paper patching it and using it in a .270.

[Jeff Michel]

Is hollow pointing an option with this bullet?

[45 2.1]

Anybody know how much this boolit will weigh? I'm thinking of paper patching it and using it in a .270.

About 170 gr.


Is hollow pointing an option with this bullet?

No.......... the boolit is to long and the blocks are close coupled to do that.

[Jeff Michel]

Sigh... I'm in for one. bmsouder at ymail dot com

[Humbo]

Put me down for one mold.
bardisattva at gmail dot com
Thanks!

[Jeff Michel]

I'm going to have to back out of this one. Should circumstances permit, I would like to return if at all possible. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Jeff Michel

[midnight]

Put me down for one. Don't know how I missed this one til now. rwhyte at wi dot rr dot com

Bob

[alrighty]

Put me down for one please.
alrighty
restorerancientiron(at)gmail(dot)com

[Gunsmoke4570]

Sign me up!

gunsmoke4570 at aol dot com

[LooyvilleLarry]

well, there goes another $100 to MiHec :)

Add me to the list. larry at infocussolutions dot net

[45 2.1]

Bump................

[geargnasher]

Anybody know how much this boolit will weigh? I'm thinking of paper patching it and using it in a .270.

You will have far better luck doing that with the oversized Midsouth mould that drops around .2715" on the bands. Get one of these anyway though, because one day you'll probably get a 6.5mm military gun and you'll need it.

Gear

[45 2.1]

Get one of these anyway though, because one day you'll probably get a 6.5mm military gun and you'll need it. Gear

Hee hee hee........... Good advice from someone who isn't on the list himself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[historicfirearms]

I'm in for one mold

historicfirearms at (hot mail) dot com

[Spartacus]

Hee hee hee........... Good advice from someone who isn't on the list himself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I'm guessing that he has one of the first runs of this design...

[45 2.1]

I'm guessing that he has one of the first runs of this design...

Nope... he doesn't........... just an oversize Lee from subsequent runs.

[geargnasher]

Nope... he doesn't........... just an oversize Lee from subsequent runs.

That doesn't even count as a Swedish Mauser mould. I have two other moulds, one has been modified to fit the military Swedes and shoots very well at lower speeds, probably will do even better if I learn how to load it properly. It doesn't have the correct lube grooves for the Swede rifling though like the Cruise Missile does, and the narrow drive bands aren't well suited for high velocity. The other one is for paper-patching. If I can scrape together the money for this in time I'll be in.

Gear

[ELFEGO BACA]

I had a Lee Cruise Missle Mold and could not get my cast bullets made in the mold to feed from the magazine of my Swede.

My cast bullets from Lyman's 268645 feeds from the magazine flawlessly.

elfego

[NYBushBro]

Bump.

[historicfirearms]

Sorry for the inconvenience, please remove me from the list. I was #20.

[PB234]

Please put me on the list for one

jeff5tg at yahoo dot com

I am PB234 on this site

Thanks, I almost missed it.

[45 2.1]

Thanks, I almost missed it.

The front page isn't big enough for all the GBs going on.

[Buck348]

I will take one if it's not to late to sign up. When do you expect them to be ready?

Thanks
Buck348

buck348@live(dot)com

[45 2.1]

[QUOTE=Buck348;1748135]I will take one if it's not to late to sign up. When do you expect them to be ready? [/QUOTE (ready?@live(dot)com[/QUOTE)]

You in........... as to when, it'll be some time yet.

[Baja_Traveler]

I'm in for one.

kschuma1 at san.rr.com

[45 2.1]

List updated.....................

[Ed in North Texas]

OK, I'm in for one and a free bump.

efhaertel at embarqmail dot com

Ed

[338RemUltraMag]

Will this mold be able to be sized down for use in a 260 Remington? If so count me in!

[45 2.1]

Will this mold be able to be sized down for use in a 260 Remington? If so count me in!

This mold is meant to be sized between 0.2675" and 0.268". It is for the military 6.5mm cartridges, of which it has been treid thoroughly in the 6.5 Swede, 6.5 MS, 6.5 Jap and for fit in the 6.5 Carcano. I really have no idea what it does in a commercial 6.5 cartridge.

[338RemUltraMag]

This is upseting, unfortunately there isnt anything available for the .265 guys...

[45 2.1]

This is upseting, unfortunately there isnt anything available for the .265 guys...

Saeco offers a reasonable design for those.

[45 2.1]

Updated.................

[junkdude]

Please sign me up for one

[Baja_Traveler]

Any word on when we will be in production for this mold?

[Mallard57]

I'll take one.

[Dschuttig]

Please put me down for one. Dschuttig at yahoo dot com

[45 2.1]

Any word on when we will be in production for this mold?

Not yet...................


I'll take one.

You need to edit your post to include a disguised e-mail address.

[Mallard57]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallard57
I'll take one.

You need to edit your post to include a disguised e-mail address.
jefftrimbleatcharterdotnet

[Cariboo]

Ill take one. Hope I talk my buddy into paying for it.
keithu7 at yahoo dot ca

[Duett]

I will take one ! anckni at gmail dot com

[rikkit]

I would like one of these moulds also, count me in!

Forum name rikkit

Email rikkit@aaahawk.com

Regards Rich L

[bowfin]

I would like to be added to the list.

mjones23 AT neb DOT rr DOT com

[alrighty]

Please change my email to the following , thanks.
restorerancientiron(@)gmail(dot)com

[45 2.1]

If you want one of these you have little time to sign up. MiHec is working on getting the dimensions correct with the cherry in a trial mold... sign up or loose out...............

[rollmyown]

I assume this would hve to be seated below the shoulder? How far?

[45 2.1]

I assume this would hve to be seated below the shoulder? How far?

In the various 94, 96 and 38 models i've tried, this boolit (from the original single cavity Oldfeller GB) seats with the boolit base at the base of the neck. There is a big difference between out of spec molds and a correctly cut one.

[rollmyown]

1 Please

bert000 at yahoo dot com

[RMerkel]

Are these these still available? If so, then you can put me down for one; rmerkel at acm dot org

[45 2.1]

Your in..... please change your e-mail address to that like the sign up list so some scanner program doesn't get your real e-mail and send you various advertisements.

[RMerkel]

Done!

Where can I find some load data for these boolits? I've searched this forum and found some suggested powders, some discussions about OAL...but nothing pulling it all together.

Thanks

[jonk]

If still open, put me down for one... Jon Klein
jon
klei
@
gmail.
com

[45 2.1]

If still open, put me down for one... Jon Klein
jon
klei
@
gmail.
com

Still open and your on the list.

[Gundawg]

I love the 6.5. I'll take one. guhndawg at gmail dot com.

[MiHec]

This is second cherry (broken) - problems with chips

[cosmoline]

I will take one mold
lovetick at aol dot com

[crabo]

I'll take one

crabo308 at gmail dot com

[apapro]

I'm in for 1 of these molds as long as you can ship to Canada!!!
.....apapro@hotmail.com

[apapro]

45 2.1


Please contact me for payment deatails at email provided and shipping if possible to Canada!!!

Thanks

[45 2.1]

45 2.1


Please contact me for payment deatails at email provided and shipping if possible to Canada!!!

Thanks

The mold maker, MiHec, is located in Europe......... He ships worldwide.... no problem to Canada. He bills to your e-mail address and you pay via paypal after he has the molds made.

[chuck4570]

I have a Winchester model 70 6.5 swede, but if I understand correctly, the throat is smaller than the military rifles and is not suitable?

[btreanor]

I would like one of these moulds if this group buy is still open!

btreanor(at)hotmail(dot)com

[swiss 96/11]

Please put me on the list for 1 mould, bigrockfish7 at aol dot com.

[Baja_Traveler]

I have a Winchester model 70 6.5 swede, but if I understand correctly, the throat is smaller than the military rifles and is not suitable?

Your best bet would be to do a chamber cast to see what you are actually dealing with before buying any mould.

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2

[ibgp3]

Looks like I made it!!
put me down for a mold.
ibgp3atyahoodotcom

Thanks
GP

[brody]

I'm in for 1
jimboone at cableone dot net

[MUSTANG]

Please add me to the list for 1

BillParsonatHotmail.com

Mustang

[Mike_60]

Please put me down for one.

oktec60 at yahoo dot com

[Bert2368]

If it's still open, put me down for one-

bert (at) hollywoodpyrotechnics (dot) com

[GaryN]

I would also like to be on the list for one mould. gary(underscore)nordgran(at)hotmail(dot)com. GaryN

[Duett]

Please remove me from this group buy (order nr 28), thanks!

[rollmyown]

This is second cherry (broken) - problems with chips

Any news on this one?

[45 2.1]

Any news on this one?

Not yet....................

[ibgp3]

Lee is not listing a lube size kit for .266
Any chance there is enough interest here to get them to do a run?

[45 2.1]

Lee is not listing a lube size kit for .266
Any chance there is enough interest here to get them to do a run?

Lee will/used to do custom sizes for about $25. Contact them.

[ElDorado]

Lee is not listing a lube size kit for .266
Any chance there is enough interest here to get them to do a run?

Try this-

http://www.castpics.net/subsite2/HowTo/How%20to%20Hone%20a%20Size%20Die.pdf

or

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?169665-opening-up-a-push-thru-sizer

[ibgp3]

Try this-

http://www.castpics.net/subsite2/HowTo/How%20to%20Hone%20a%20Size%20Die.pdf

or

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?169665-opening-up-a-push-thru-sizer
That looks like the trick, except that starting @ 243 seems a bit much.

Still a good idea?

[ibgp3]

Lee will/used to do custom sizes for about $25. Contact them.

from the Lee site

Custom Work Suspended
Due to unprecedented order volume, we are suspending all custom work until we are able to meet the required volume of our standard products. At present, it appears to be spring of 2013.

[Bert2368]

Contact member buckshot. He made me a custom Lee type die, can make dies for Lyman/RCBS as well. Took about 2 weeks to get the die as I recall.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/member.php?67-Buckshot

[ibgp3]

. If you've read the milk jug thread, go back again and look at the last of the instructions. Nobody but Starmetal followed them all.

Wow, that was cruel!!
A 28 page thread that is mostly about bad feelings, and a 1/2 page of directions.
Looks like something good to learn though.

[45 2.1]

Wow, that was cruel!!
A 28 page thread that is mostly about bad feelings, and a 1/2 page of directions.
Looks like something good to learn though.

A few folks made the thread nasty............. Since I'm the one who wrote the directions I can say that and how they were not followed thru. The whole direction business was aimed at teaching a new loading technique for a medium size bottleneck case. Quite a few people tried it their way....... It only works one way in a narrow range. They never got past the upper half of the instructions. One fellow wrote a synopsis of what he did to prove it wrong........ he even stated how he did the buffer........ the directions clearly stated that his method would absolutely NOT work. Now you tell me I'm cruel..... little wonder after what happened................

[ibgp3]

Now you tell me I'm cruel....
If there was any room in your PM inbox you would have gotten an immediate apology. Tape on the web of an undersized case is a trick I needed, so the reading was good for me.

[mojavemike1]

If it's not too late, put me down for one

mojavemikemb at yahoo dot com

I have a PayPal acc.

Thanks

[mojavemike1]

Bump.....

[ibgp3]

What's the best handle for this mold?

[Bert2368]

Lee 6 cavity handles work well.


What's the best handle for this mold?

[ibgp3]

Thanks
Figured that, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

[GaryN]

I need to back out of this one. I'm number 45 on the list. Sorry.

[MUSTANG]

Any projections on date this Group Buy will close, call for payment?

Mustang

[Bert2368]

All other Mihec group buys I've been in on (4 so far) have closed when the materials go to the machine.

I've not been asked for payment on any of these buys until the mould was ready to ship, then I got an email asking for a PayPal payment... Followed by receiving the mould 1 to 2 weeks later.

Hopefully this buy will be the same, I've been quite happy with the way it's gone in the past.

The picture of the broken cherry posted a while back probably has something to do with any delays here? Getting the chips out of that skinny deep hole without bogging down seemed to be a challenge.

[45 2.1]

No projected date yet....

Thread updated...............

[Dutch4122]

Please remove me from this Group Buy. I am #14 on the list.

Thank you.

[45 2.1]

Thread updated.............

[jonk]

In most group buys I've bought into, the wait time was usually something like 9 months from the 'sign me up' to having the mold in hand; good things come to those who wait, but I haven't even seen a production schedule yet. Any word from Mihec?

[Bert2368]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49229&d=1351860647

The picture Mihec posted of the broken 2nd. cherry on page 5 kind of suggests that production started- And then stopped!

I've got the dies, some brass and still need the H&I die, checks and THE RIFLE. I keep looking at M-96's but haven't bought one yet. Mihec isn't slowing me down by not finishing the moulds. Yet.

[NYBushBro]

Since the OP was last April, I'm guessing (hoping?) that this one will be ready by April... and my can of BP Original buffer is waiting....

[LooyvilleLarry]

Due to economic changes, I am going to have to drop out of this GB. Please remove me (#19). Sorry for any problems this might cause.

[pearson1662]

I've got a couple of Swedes that need to be fed. Put me down for one.

6point5mm at Gmail dot com

[Crash_Corrigan]

I had a cruise missle mold a la Lee but I traded it off cuz I could not size it on my Saeco luber. It was too long. Now I have a Star luber and the length is not a problem. Put me down for one.

crashcorrigan at cox dot net ONE MOULD

[Humbo]

I'm sorry, but I have to to back out of this one. I'm #15 on the list.

[apapro]

Hey All....I've been away for awhile hope all is on track (read: I dont have time to read this entire thread) have the moulds been ready to ship??

Mods......Please email me again if I have not responded!!! Sorry for the hassle!!

[Baja_Traveler]

No molds yet apapro - Last we heard was difficulties with broken cherries. I don't think a single mold has been completed as of yet, so the wait continues...

Luckily my BRP 140 grain mould will keep me going until this new one arrives.

[Bert2368]

Save me from these jacketed bullets! (sob...)

[280Ackley]

I will take one jeff dot girton at gmail dot com.

[45 2.1]

No information yet on when.

Thread updated................

[Dwayneinfo]

I will take one of these molds please.

Dwayneinfo at yahoo

[apapro]

Sorry Guys but I'm out I found a great used mold here and it will fill my needs. Again I'm out!

Thanks anyways!!

[sourceofuncertainty]

I'm in for one - late to the game but better late than never!

completeusability at gee, maihl.

[horsesoldier]

Can I get put on this list for one?

[45 2.1]

Can I get put on this list for one?

Yes... I need a disguised e-mail address (look at the list, you'll understand) and the number of molds you want.

[280Ackley]

I'm withdrawing from this one. 280Ackley

[Old Iron Sights]

Put me down for one. Gdschanz at gmail dot com

[wool1]

Sorry for my ignorance...how would this shoot in a 6.5-06 ackley?

[Bert2368]

This mould is designed for the fast twist and "generous" throat of the Swedish military Mausers. It may be too fat in the nose to chamber in your rifle's throat without seating excessively deep, or too long for the twist rate of your rifle to stabilize...

What's your twist rate? Swedes are about 1:7.8". Do you know your throat dimensions?

[wool1]

Kinda thought it may be on the heavy side....I believe I put a 1-10 twist on it. Thanks for the response.

[45 2.1]

This mould is designed for the fast twist and "generous" throat of the Swedish military Mausers.

Actually, it has fit all of the military 6.5mm cartridges we've tried it in: 6.5 Swede, 6.5 M-S, 6.5 Jap, 6.5 Carcano (haven't got to try the 6.5 Dutch yet)..... in their original form and guise. It shot very well in all of them.

[Smoke4320]

I would love to get in on this mold if Possible ..
Smoke at Paintball Kingdom dot com
thanks Smoke

[Dwayneinfo]

Please remove 37. Dwayneinfo.....Dwayneinfo at yahoo .....one mold

[kendwell]

Question on length: don't have a sizer yet, likely Lyman or RCBS, Is length a possible problem?

[Bert2368]

Lee type nose first push throug sizing? References here and there to bending the bullets when sizing base first?

[Old Iron Sights]

I don't believe Lee makes a sizer this size so it would have to be special order from them.

[Bert2368]

Member Buckshot here can make you a nice one.

[ballistim]

One mold please ballistim at yahoo dot com.

[45 2.1]

Question on length: don't have a sizer yet, likely Lyman or RCBS, Is length a possible problem?

This mold is meant for the military Swedish Mausers. It is cut to fit their throats as well as the various other military 6.5mm calibers. It is cut to the original spec's, which means you don't really have to size (unlike the Midsouth runs cut by Lee which are generally oversize in band and nose diameters). I cast them and water drop them, then wait until they are hard. After they are hard I run them in a 0.268" H&I die (made by Buckshot on this forum) seating the gas check and lubing the boolit. No problems with bending that way in the Lyman or RCBS lubrisizers.

[TreeKiller]

1 Mold please
gd16327 at yahoo dotcom
Thank you

[45 2.1]

Thread updated................

[Tens]

Please sign me up for one mould.

[kens]

I'll take one, thanks.

[sixpointfive]

what grain weight?

[45 2.1]

Please sign me up for one mould.

I'll take one, thanks.

Both of you need to edit your post to include a disguised e-mail address. Look at the list on the first page and you'll understand.


what grain weight?

About 170 gr.

[sixpointfive]

Can these be pushed 1800-2000 fps accurately? Out of swede?

[kens]

I'll take one, thanks.
kschott at coastalnow dot net

[sixpointfive]

can these be pushed 1800-2000 fps accurately? Out of swede?

[45 2.1]

can these be pushed 1800-2000 fps accurately? Out of swede?

Depends on who you listen to.......... I can and so can a few others.

[btreanor]

Please remove me from this group buy. I have located a 6.5 mold elsewhere. Thanks.

btreanor (at) hotmail (dot) com

[Bert2368]

Miha, SAVE ME FROM THESE J WORDS!
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/Bert2368/photo-125.jpg (http://s559.photobucket.com/user/Bert2368/media/photo-125.jpg.html)

[45 2.1]

MiHec has already broken at least one cherry (probably more than that) trying to cut a brass set of blocks. From what he said in the paper patch boolit thread he can cut an aluminum block. I have asked him that and have not gotten a reply yet. I do not know what an aluminum block would do to the projected cost, but is anybody else willing to try that option out to get these molds out?

[midnight]

As much as I love brass molds, I'll take it in aluminum if it will solve Miha's tool problems. Same withe the paper patched mold.

Bob

[alrighty]

MiHec has already broken at least one cherry (probably more than that) trying to cut a brass set of blocks. From what he said in the paper patch boolit thread he can cut an aluminum block. I have asked him that and have not gotten a reply yet. I do not know what an aluminum block would do to the projected cost, but is anybody else willing to try that option out to get these molds out?

Aluminum works for me!

[Bert2368]

If that's what it takes to get them out the door, Aluminum will do.

[junkdude]

I'd be content with an aluminum mold.

[dromia]

Aluminium is fine, anything that gets these Mihec moulds moving.

[sffar]

I'd be happy with aluminum.
Sam

[Baja_Traveler]

I drop some of my best boolits from NOE aluminum moulds - no reason why I wouldn't expect the same from this mold...

[Smoke4320]

If that's what it takes to get them out the door, Aluminum will do.

Sounds good to me as well

[Mallard57]

Aluminum works for me.

[MUSTANG]

Prefer brass,
but an aluminum in hand is worth all the Brass in the Bush so to speak.

Mustang

[MiHec]

Here is a little update.
I need to alter cherry a bit.
Problem is shrinkage (more shrinkage at the nose, less at the base)

7280972810

[Bert2368]

Yay! A test mould!!! Do whatever it takes, we'll wait.

Looking forward to this one. I won't have much time to cast, load & develop until September anyway.

[MUSTANG]

Here is a little update.
I need to alter cherry a bit.
Problem is shrinkage (more shrinkage at the nose, less at the base)

7280972810

Much prettier Boolit & Mold than my Lee. Damn the Torpedo's - Full Speed Ahead.

Mustang

[45 2.1]

Nice picture MiHec...............In brass too.................

Thread updated...........

[alha]

I'm in.

snowserver (at) hotmail d0t com

[Tens]

#49 on the list. Please send invoice to tmowens44 at juno dot com. Please also send where to get sizing die and top punch for the Cruise Missile. This is my first mould.

[midnight]

Miha sends a top punch that fits the bullet with each mold so the top punch should not be a problem.

Bob

[rollmyown]

Keep the faith guys, hold out for brass.

[NYBushBro]

Keep the faith guys, hold out for brass.

Amen. +1

[Ed in North Texas]

I'm out of state and won't be back home until fall = I can wait.

[Old Iron Sights]

I'm ok with Al. If brass is the winner than so be it. I can wait it out.

[wrench]

I'd actually rather have aluminum, those brass molds are heavy!

[pearson1662]

I've never been involved in a group buy; is there a sticky that describes the protocol for billing and notification?

[Bert2368]

In Mihec's case, he will send you an email WHEN THE MOULDS ARE DONE telling you where to send payment, Paypal is usually best for him as it takes care of currency conversion and is quick.

[45 2.1]

Please also send where to get sizing die for the Cruise Missile.

PM Buckshot for that. He can make you a Lyman/RCBS type H&I die. 0.268" is the size most of the Swedes I've shot liked.

It looks like we'll get the brass mold after all.

Thread updated.........

[BrassMagnet]

I'll take a three cavity solid gas checked.

ronaldmeyers at optimum dot net

[khmer6]

One mold. Khmer6 at gmail dot com

[Rymark223]

I would like one of these please.
Sbmathews74 at gmail dot com

Thanks

[Dubbel El]

I would like one mold and a set of handles.
laynel at bigfoot dot com

[Dutch4122]

Please put me back on the list for this Group Buy.

Dutch4122(at)yahoo(dot)com.

[Bert2368]

Dubbel El, they fit Lee 6 cavity handles. Although Mihec DOES make handles too-

[Dubbel El]

Thanks for the info regarding the handles, Bert2368. 45 2.1, please keep me in for the mold, but cancel my order for the handles. Thanks!

[pearson1662]

I'd like a set of handles with my mold, please.

the number six, p o i n t, the number 5, m m @ g m a i l . c o m

[45 2.1]

Thread updated.........

[jonk]

I would strongly prefer brass, but would be content with aluminum; I would want to discuss pricing on that though before saying 'yeah, let's do it!'

[ballistim]

Still watching for this one.

[Bert2368]

Indeed. Got the rifle, brass & powders all on hand... I'd rather not use the J bullets, but I found some of them too.

In about 2 months, maybe I'll even have the time to do load development.

[45 2.1]

Thread updated.............

[rollmyown]

Bump for interest

[ballistim]

oops! posted on wrong thread. sorry!

[quasi]

oops! posted on wrong thread. sorry!

aha, I thought I missed out!

[Bert2368]

Originally Posted by ballistim
oops! posted on wrong thread. sorry!

http://http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?193965-Ingot-Molds-Very-nice

Those moulds DO look nice. Another member here actually did me a FAVOR by backing out of a package smelting toools sale last week that included 8 Lyman 4 banger ingot moulds- As I will now buy some of these and a gas burner/reg set for less!


By the time I've got my ingots finished, perhaps this 6.5 mould will be done.... The wait will just make me appreciate it more.

[ballistim]

Right! I've been waiting to shoot cast bullets out of the 1894 Swedish Mauser that my father built for me as a sporter before I was old enough to hunt deer so it's been an awful long wait since I am now in my 50s!

[Old Iron Sights]

Still waiting on this. Wonder why Lee doesn't make a push through sizer for this caliber? If nothing else I need one to seat has checks. Guess there's always a special order unless there's someone on this board that can turn one.

[ballistim]

Might try member Buckshot, Ive seen posts saying he makes custom sizes of the Lee push-thru dies.

[Smoke4320]

Finally got around to testing some lead rds in my 1896 Swedish Mauser and discovered it has a short throat.. had to short seat 145 gr projectiles ..
so knowing this I need to pull out of this group buy
very sorry

[Skunkworks]

Starmetal took two months of daily trials and on the phone help (and almost gave up) before he caught on to the buffer technique. Without learning it properly with lots of help your chances are low of finding it yourself. The results transfer over to all the medium burning smaller cartridges ( say 6mm to under 30 caliber) and its very well worth the time to learn..... but it ain't easy doing so. If you've read the milk jug thread, go back again and look at the last of the instructions. Nobody but Starmetal followed them all.

A link to the thread/post please, for a noob!
I want to learn before i buy.

[45 2.1]

A link to the thread/post please, for a noob!
I want to learn before i buy.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?70923-Milk-Jug-300-Yard-6-5-Swede

[ballistim]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?70923-Milk-Jug-300-Yard-6-5-Swede

Whew! I need a nap after reading that one!!! Great information & I've always wanted to make brass from military LC 30-06 brass, so that was much appreciated. I respect the time and research that went into this project, and the countless disclaimers in several of the posts about what is required to safely accomplish the end product if taking all the necessary steps while using all precautions. I've always loved the 6.5x55 as it was my first center fire rifle and learned to hand load because of owning an "oddball" cartridge as my friends called it. I've never neck turned brass, but trimming, primer pocket uniformity and flash hole deburring were all techniques I learned handloading this cartridge. I can't wait to shoot cast from my old '94 Carl Gustafs carbine sporter that has shot everything I've tried with surprising accuracy. I burned up a lot of my father's surplus H4831 until we ran out, and H4831 is still the best powder I've found for this rifle after trying almost anything else in medium or slow burning powders. I can't believe I haven't shot out the barrel with all the "J" words that I've put through this gun, so I'll ease it into retirement on a diet of lead. Thanks for this group buy on this great forum where I learn new things every day!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/13/emyjugar.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/13/ury7udez.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/13/a3edynum.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/13/5egaha7u.jpg

[MiHec]

81696 81697

I have some difficulties with cherry (dimensions).

Blocks and sprues are ready......

[ballistim]

Nice photo of the 311440 group buy, thought I was on the wrong thread for a moment! The other two photos show just how long of a projectile this will be, and I'm excited to to get started loading this one!!

[RMerkel]

BTW, are the handles for this mold Lyman, or some thing else? If, what is the cost?

Thanks,

Randy

[ballistim]

I'm guessing the Lee handles or MiHec makes nice ones from what I hear.

[ElDorado]

I have some difficulties with cherry (dimensions).

Blocks and sprues are ready......

That long cavity doesn’t leave much metal at the bottom of the block. Do you suppose that the block is getting too hot at the thin area, thus causing the shrinkage at the nose? I’ve never heard of such a thing, I’m just asking if it’s a possibility.

[Skunkworks]

I want a mould!

skunkworks (at) youmail (dot) dk

[RMerkel]

Please add one set of MiHec handles to my order; rmerkel at acm dot org

Thanks

[45 2.1]

Mold takes Lee 6 cavity commercial or MiHec handles.

Thread updated............

[Andy_P]

Is there a link to the dimensions to which this will be cut?

[Skunkworks]

Read the very first post in this thread.

It will cast .268"

[358wcf]

If not too late to get on board, I would like to request one mold- 358wcf at astound dot net
many thanks to all for making this happen! Chuck

[Andy_P]

Read the very first post in this thread.

It will cast .268"

Yea - I saw that, but there are many other dimensions to a bullet!

Its overall length
The diameter of the lube grooves
The diameter of the meplat
The diameter of the bullet ahead of the front driving band
The length of the bullet ahead of the driving band
Etc.

[Skunkworks]

I think this data is kosher?

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Skydning/Husky%20640/006-65SWED_2_zps5f2aa245.jpg (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Chickenthief/media/Skydning/Husky%20640/006-65SWED_2_zps5f2aa245.jpg.html)

[45 2.1]

That is a very old Lee submittal drawing with the Lee BS on it.

Thread updated............

[Old Iron Sights]

Forgive me but this is my first group buy. Do the recent posts mean we are getting closer? Waiting patiently in the Ozark foothills.

[45 2.1]

Forgive me but this is my first group buy. Do the recent posts mean we are getting closer? Waiting patiently in the Ozark foothills.

The mold maker has a cherry which he has a dimension problem with. When he solves it I imagine this GB will close. When that is still is undetermined and patience is a virtue..................

[cainttype]

Put me down for one, please.
drctml (AT) yahoo (DOT) com

[RWR]

I will take one mould and one set of handles (MiHec)
Thanks.
Ray
fireball218 at q dot com

[HikerLT]

HikerLT (at) alum (dot) wpi (dot) edu

one mold

[Jeff Michel]

Please put me down for one.....
Thank you,
Jeff Michel
bmsouderatymaildotcom

[dragon813gt]

Looks like a new rifle needs to be ordered. I will take one dragon813gt at yahoo dot com

[micky_blue]

Can I get a 3 cav please

Bowtied underscore micky at yaho0

[nanuk]

Yea - I saw that, but there are many other dimensions to a bullet!

Its overall length
The diameter of the lube grooves
The diameter of the meplat
The diameter of the bullet ahead of the front driving band
The length of the bullet ahead of the driving band
Etc.

I don't know if anyone else has briefed you on this, but

ANY mould/boolit that 45 2.1 has been involved in, you will NOT get much info on it.

you are EXPECTED to just Trust 45 2.1 that it'll work, and be a good PEON and don't ask questions.

a few of us went through this some time ago.

45 2.1 uses this site as a business site, and won't release any "Proprietary" info to anyone.

for those of you who think this site is about "Sharing" ideas and information, you'll have the occasional disappointment.

that being said, 45 2.1 won't steer you wrong, and his designs have produced great results.

Your call if you want to play his game or not.

[45 2.1]

45 2.1 uses this site as a business site, and won't release any "Proprietary" info to anyone.

Very poor business since I don't make money from it. If you think a free mold makes up for the taking care of the list or the primers, powder and firearms used to determine what should be designed, then you would be dead wrong about that..... all of that costs a lot more money than you think it does. As for some people who want dimensions, hardly any participate in the GB, but I see the design appear on other mold makers business charts. Try doing it yourself.... there is a very steep learning curve which a couple of folks have found out about.

[nanuk]

45 2.1, as I said, you do things your way, and you don't steer us peons wrong.

we all have a choice, we either play or not.

I have chosen to get involved in some of your design buys, as I have learned to trust your ability to make boolit designs that work.

Your motives are no longer relevant to me, as long as you keep designing boolits that work.


I just wish you could design a way to help Mihec decrease production time. sometimes the wait is long.

[alamogunr]

Very poor business since I don't make money from it. If you think a free mold makes up for the taking care of the list or the primers, powder and firearms used to determine what should be designed, then you would be dead wrong about that..... all of that costs a lot more money than you think it does. As for some people who want dimensions, hardly any participate in the GB, but I see the design appear on other mold makers business charts. Try doing it yourself.... there is a very steep learning curve which a couple of folks have found out about.

IIRC some have tried scaling the drawings 45 2.1 includes with the initial post for a GB. I really don't see how that can have a satisfactory outcome.

[45 2.1]

I just wish you could design a way to help Mihec decrease production time. Sometimes the wait is long.

We would have to convince him to either clone himself or get some help. One might be a hoop dream and the other might happen eventually....... Either way we don't have any say in the matter.....though a shorter wait would be nice.



IIRC some have tried scaling the drawings 45 2.1 includes with the initial post for a GB. I really don't see how that can have a satisfactory outcome.

Most of the time pertinent areas are changed enough that scaling produces poor results, but doesn't change the view. Microsoft Paint does a wonderful job of distorting drawings all by itself.

[dominicfortune00]

If the group buy is still open, I will take one mould.

dominicfortune00 at yahoo dot com

[TreeKiller]

45 2.1;
Please change my e-mail to gd16327at gmaildotcom

48. TreeKiller.....gd16327 at yahoo dotcom..... one mold
Thank you
Dan

[micky_blue]

I would like to get one of these please.

Bowtied_micky at yah00

Thanks.

[cainttype]

Please remove me from this buy's list. I'm #59...Thanks.

[rollmyown]

Please take me off the GB.

[Andy_P]

Sign me up for one (1) mold please.

apridham at rogers dot com

[06ackley]

Well im in for one mold.. jr442 at frontier dot com

[quasi]

I am #7, please change email addy to c kulyk at telus dot net

[dragon813gt]

Please remove me from the list. I am #31.