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joe4711
04-03-2012, 10:06 PM
What is the excepted way of selling range lead, sifted with all sand and most rocks, grass and twigs removed, or just scooping it up with a spade and chucking it in a box.

I bought some range (scrap) mined bullets and I guess it is about 30% or more sand.

Surely this is not the excepted way or am I just to picky.

tomme boy
04-03-2012, 10:13 PM
If it was 30% in the box, I would be mad.

Rhino
04-03-2012, 10:18 PM
Mate,

If someone's going to sell range lead.
Smelt it down into clean ingots, that fit into postage boxes.
People don't want to pay postage for sand & scrap.

I'd be pissed if i paid for 30% rubbish............

Cheers

SlowSmokeN
04-03-2012, 11:15 PM
That would be completely unacceptable, I would be ticked to say the least. Like others above have said, smelted down into clean ingots or it should be DISCLOSED with a picture of what you are getting.

runfiverun
04-04-2012, 12:08 AM
if a much lower price and washed, acceptable.
dirt and sand not acceptable.
it usually does better in ingots.

Oreo
04-04-2012, 12:41 AM
When I smelt washed bermine ore I get about 30-40% dirt by volume skimmed off the melt. By weight the percentage is much lower. So I would say it depends on what you were told you were buying & how you came by this 30% figure.

evan price
04-04-2012, 01:35 AM
I'm not paying for dirt. I have enough of that already.
I don't sell my berm lead, but I take a coffee-can full of it, put it in an old colander, and swish it around in a bucket of soapy water to get the mud off before I bucket it in preparation for smelting. Takes little time. If I have more, I dump it on a metal flatbed trailer, hose it off, and let it dry in the sun.
If you paid 25 cents a pound shipped maybe. More than that, sorry.

Stephen Cohen
04-04-2012, 05:47 AM
Im in proces of smelting some 400kg of rangelead, even after washing in cement mixer I still get around 30% by volume. so as stated above the price would have to be lower.

joe4711
04-04-2012, 10:15 PM
So maybe I wasn't in the best of moods or I opened the end of the box where all the sand sifted down to, long story short. It looked like there was a hell of a lot of sand in the box.
Final verdict. Box weighed 63lb 14oz
Sand sifted out. 8lb 10oz
Dross 13lb 6oz
Total 22lbs
Lead recovered 40lb
Unaccounted weight 1lb 14oz

Cost $40.00 shipped

Lesson learned: Unless you can buy lead under .50c / lb don't bother and just buy ingots from the guys selling at a $1.00 /lb delivered

fredj338
04-05-2012, 03:45 PM
Sounds like someone is padding his wt count w/ free sand. Never buy from that guy again. If buying scrap I can accept the jackets & other stuff as loss & pauy accordingly, but sand, nope.

WHITETAIL
04-06-2012, 08:31 AM
I would be pretty mad if it happend to me.
I range mind all the time.:guntootsmiley:
When I get home the first thing I
do is pour the boolits on the driveway.
And get the hose to wash them.
Then rake them around alittle.
Then wash them again.
Then let them dry for most of the day.
Then scoop them up and put them
in a bucket in the gearage for next year
when it's smelting time again.:target_smiley:

SlowSmokeN
04-07-2012, 06:20 PM
Did you buy it from someone on this site? Don't want to out anyone but don't want to get burned either.

nanuk
04-08-2012, 06:42 AM
why not out them for ripping folks off?

that will give them time to 'splain

and alert others to a possible scam

jsizemore
04-08-2012, 10:46 PM
If I figured it right, you got screwed out of 6.5 lbs of lead.

joe4711
04-11-2012, 11:13 PM
I contacted the seller, explained the problem to him and gave him some advise on sifting.
Hope it will help.