Edge Dies 7/8-14 Swage Dies

[coltac]

People have been asking me for some pictures of my 7/8 dies for a reloading press. Im finally getting caught up filing orders. I have 4 or 5 more to fill. But for those of you who would like to see what they look like, here is a picture. The copper bullets have been tumbled, and the brass bullets were made with fired .22 LR cases.

Dies from left to right are Point form, core swage, core seat, de-rimming die.
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/coltac/photo2.jpg

[newcastter]

I own a set of Kaine dies and see alot of similarities???

[GerryM]

Nice work' The concept is not new but it works very well'
Dies that cost $$$$ s are the same design.
I think that system is really the proper way to swage bullets.
I have used the other types also. {blackmoun}
Corbin use to make a set like these years ago .

[Stilly]

Question.

I went to the website but the picture was different for the .224 swage dies. There were only 3 in the photo. I did not see the derimmer with the punch. was it just left out of that photo? I would not mind trying a set and for the $349 price it looked awfully tempting. I just want to make sure. I am just getting into reloading and swaging is a brand new thing to me as well...

Also, I have a Lee CLassic turret press but for this stuff I picked up a 1975 RCBS Jr Reloader today. It looked barely used, actually, not even mounted yet but at $25.00 I thought it was a good purchase. I hope these would work okay on that press.

[Utah Shooter]

Ah man. That is a fantastic deal for an RCBS JR. I have swaged many .224 projectiles on one of those.

From what I have seen (pictured above) the dies look fantastic. For 349 four die set. Cannot go wrong there.

[Stilly]

Oh really so then it is decent to use? That is good to read. I came here initaly for the 22lr brass converters/swaging dies and all but I have found all kinds of cool dies that I could run. Since I have a lot of 9mm brass I figure that I can use those too but for now one die at a time.. (yes pun intended)

[Utah Shooter]

Well welcome. The 22 cal dies are what get me started as well. I suggest you run away though. :lol: You WILL get sucked in here.

[Stilly]

Yeah no doubt. In a few weeks I might be found in my room with my head exploded and bits of information all over the walls... I really should leave now to escape my impending doom...

[kd185]

People have been asking me for some pictures of my 7/8 dies for a reloading press. Im finally getting caught up filing orders. I have 4 or 5 more to fill. But for those of you who would like to see what they look like, here is a picture. The copper bullets have been tumbled, and the brass bullets were made with fired .22 LR cases.

Dies from left to right are Point form, core swage, core seat, de-rimming die.
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae190/coltac/photo2.jpg

what is the difference between the Corbin H style press dies and a standard die in 7/8", 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"

[mdenz3]

what is the difference between the Corbin H style press dies and a standard die in 7/8", 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"

I'm very interested in this as well.

What kind of lead times are you running?

[BT Sniper]

Where the copper jacketed bullets formed in your dies as well. They appear to have a smaller meplat?

BT

[coltac]

Yes, the copper ones were made in my die. I used a point bump die that i burned w/ the EDM. The brass jacketed bullet seem to wrinkle if i go much smaller than the picture shows. Im sorry for not responding too much, ive been very busy. Let me know if any of you are interested in a set. Feel free to shoot me a Pm, or we can talk on the phone.

[Jailer]

So does your 224 set come with a de rim die included or is it extra?

[coltac]

The set does come with the de-rim die. Its not extra. Im charging 349 for a set.
Core Swage / Core Seat / Point Form / De-rim.

[coltac]

Question.

I went to the website but the picture was different for the .224 swage dies. There were only 3 in the photo. I did not see the derimmer with the punch. was it just left out of that photo? I would not mind trying a set and for the $349 price it looked awfully tempting. I just want to make sure. I am just getting into reloading and swaging is a brand new thing to me as well...

Also, I have a Lee CLassic turret press but for this stuff I picked up a 1975 RCBS Jr Reloader today. It looked barely used, actually, not even mounted yet but at $25.00 I thought it was a good purchase. I hope these would work okay on that press.

Ill be getting around to updating the pics on the site. Im very busy right now. Hopefully it will be done soon

[coltac]

Im also very excited to announce that i am having an old machinst friend start building presses for me. The press is much like the Corbin H Press or the Walnut Hill from RCE. Its all machined 1" steel, machined guide rods on bushings. Its very stout. Will be compatible with Corbin H dies (i dont have any dies for the walnut hill, so i dont know if they are directly compatible or not, im sure some of you guys know) I will get some pictures of the press posted in the next few days. Hes finishing up the prototype right now. We have swaged some big ol' .458 bullets @ 500 gr. with it, and it was pretty effortless. The press will also have a removable pin on the toggle, that will allow the press to be used for reloading.

[mecoastie]

Those look great. Patiently awaiting my set.

[FWest]

I have a set comprised of ALfloyd's Lead extrusion, core swage, core seat and a point form from Colt at Edge dies.
I have not made it to the range yet but I will post some results when I do.

point form-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/frankwest/photo.jpg

The first few I made compared to a Hornady 2266-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/frankwest/IMAG0212.jpg

[algunjunkie]

Nice looking bullets you have there.

[FWest]

2.150-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/frankwest/IMAG0213.jpg

Lee Factory crimped-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/frankwest/IMAG0214.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/frankwest/IMAG0215.jpg

[Lonely Raven]

This is driving me nuts, I need to learn how to do this.

[Mfields]

Good looking boolits. I got a set of dies ordered,can't wait.

[coltac]

Martin, yours should be shipped within a few days

[Mfields]

Thanks

[kend]

Martin, yours should be shipped within a few days

When are mine shipping?

[dtrustype]

Coltac

Tried to use your phone number listed on your web page.

I reached an intercept saying pnone number not valid.

dtrustype

[coltac]

My phone is 206-484-0397

[rockrat]

Any idea on when mine might be shipped? Thanks

[coltac]

Im getting my orders done. Im hoping they will all the current orders will be filled in 3 weeks or so.

[MIBULLETS]

nice demo.

[Pipwa]

Do you make dies for Richard Corbin presses?

[mdenz3]

What lead time should I expect on a set of .224 dies for a Corbin -H press?

[vparra559]

Can you make 40 swayed dies. C&h 4d will not have any till next year. If you can ill take a set of 40 and 224 from you.

[Utah Shooter]

Can you make 40 swaged dies?

I too would be curious depending on price point.

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Are these dies ment for a standard reloading press or would I need a "swaging" press?

[vparra559]

I've seen videos and read on this forum that you can use any heavy duty press to swage hand gun bullets. People use the rcbs rock chucker . I just got mine in the mail this Saturday.

[Mfields]

Any ideal when mine willbe shipped ?

[Mfields]

You said mine would be shipping in a few days on 4-26. Still haven't heard from you. What's up.

[Utah Shooter]

I would suggest calling him on the number listed on this thread. Goes straight to him.

[newcastter]

I would still make an attempt with paypal, they have refunded money to me from a few dead beat dealers

[Degan]

Wow, I was about to pull the trigger with this guy too. Glad I didn't buy from him. Anyone know if DanR or BT Sniper still producing a .224 swage set?

[rasto]

I changed some emails with Dan few days ago and he stated that doubled the price for his dies set up to 600$.
According that it is not worthy any more and If I were you, I would ask for BT's set.

[Utah Shooter]

That is odd. I just talked to him a week ago on the phone. Colt that is.

[coltac]

Okay, here's the deal guys. I am not MIA, i didnt skip out with anyones money, i didnt try to cheat anyone. About a month ago, i got bit by a brown recluse spider on my elbow. It wasnt good, it rotted my elbow away down to the bone for the most part, then while that was on the mend, the infection from the spider bite got into my blood, and made me very very sick. It didnt look good.... Anyhow, im not trying to make excuses or anyhing. that is just what is going on, im on the mend now. As for the shipping problem, i confused your dies, and another customers dies, and both were returned to me last friday marked undeliverable. If you want your money back, PM me, ill give your money back and sell the dies elsewhere, it was an honest mistake. Either way, i have my cell phone back with me now, so give me a call.

Colt Carpenter
1-206-484-0397

[Mfields]

Colt sorry to hear about your misfortune . If you can get the dies shipped out, thats great.
Let me know when they ship.

Thanks

[Degan]

I changed some emails with Dan few days ago and he stated that doubled the price for his dies set up to 600$.
According that it is not worthy any more and If I were you, I would ask for BT's set.

The price from DanR doubled...darn. For two hundred more I could go with BT Sniper's but for a few hundred more above BT, I could go with Corbin's kit. Man... what to do.

[RP]

Colt I got a set of dies from you for the 224s we talked about some replacement parts since. I been waiting for them now I know why you have not sent them. I have another problem I would like to talk to you about. If you would give me a call so we can speak or PM me when you are able, Hope all heals up for you.

[BT Sniper]

Good you are on the mend.

I'm sure gald I don't have to worry about getting bit by a Brown Recluse Spider since it seems we don't have any of them here in Oregon.

BT

[newcastter]

A picture is worth a thousand words

[VIbullets]

I just spoke to Colt's mother on the phone, she sounds like a darling of a lady.
Colt is recovering well from the spider bite and his dear ol' dad has been changing the dressings daily for him.. There are a few parcels returned to her address and one of them was initially destined for Nebraska, so if thats your address I know where your order is, anyways dear ol' mom there says Colt should be up and at em pretty quick and first thing on his adgenda is to reply to all the emails and PM's he has not been answering.

[RP]

I will be waiting for a reply any ideal on the time frame we may be looking at before hes back up to responding to PMs or making phone calls?

[VIbullets]

That question/concern was not answered with something that I would feel comfortable writing in stone here only to be quoted in the future. She said she would be talking to him tonight and would pass on our best wishes and concerns.

[rockrat]

Been bit by one of those spiders, wasn't pleasant.

[R.Ph. 380]

Not only is the spider venemous, it has one of the dirtiest bites you can get. Every time you need to get an antibiotic because it will cause a cellulitis infection. Very debilitating. See a Dr.

Bill

[Mfields]

Spiders are no fun been there done that.

Would love to hear from you. If you have time please ship the dies, I would rather have the dies than a refund.

Just let me know whats going on.

[Fla9-40]

Has anyone heard from Coltac lately????

[DukeInFlorida]

I don't have a horse in the race, nor am I waiting on any tooling from this fellow.

But, 45Nut (Ken) is the guy that owns this forum. And, if you haven't already notified Ken about your issues, you should contact him. Many times, getting the owner of the forum involved, will assist in resolving such problems.

[Fla9-40]

Hey Coltac, PM, EMAIL and phone call sent......

[Fla9-40]

Just an update:

Coltac sent me an email on Monday of this week and said he had been in the hospital. I sent him my phone numbers for him to call. Waiting for him to call to let me know the status of my dies.

[RP]

Thanks for the update I also need to speak with him.

[Mfields]

Thanks for the update . A lot of people need to speak with him. Poor guy seems to have a lot of problems over the last 6 months.

[DukeInFlorida]

Who spoke with his mother??? Call her again, and explain that people are waiting on packages, and see what she says.

[Fla9-40]

I see his website is no longer available......????
Oh well I think I will find a vendor that has better communication with paying customers.

Good luck to all of ya!

[rda72927]

Website is up, or it was when I just checked.

[Fla9-40]

Website is up, or it was when I just checked.

As of my post at 09:36 this morning it wasn't....he must have re-activated it. It gave a message that it was not active.

Oh well good to see he got it going again

I still wish you all good luck with him [smilie=s:....

[RP]

Bump and I see no word from colt.

[Mfields]

Has anybody heard from Colt ??

[DukeInFlorida]

You guys should be contacting 45Nut, the CastBoolits forum owner, on this one.

[Fla9-40]

I took my dog out of this hunt, or I would have!

[Mfields]

Did this morning

Thanks

[Degan]

I'm a long time lurker but its too bad, his dies seem promising at a nice price. I don't think Colt can recover from this reputation killing move unless he post a pic of himself in the hospital with his arm rotted off. One should always deal with people with a good reputation and in good standing with the community.

[Fla9-40]

I'm a long time lurker but its too bad, his dies seem promising at a nice price. I don't think Colt can recover from this reputation killing move unless he post a pic of himself in the hospital with his arm rotted off. One should always deal with people with a good reputation and in good standing with the community.

Thought I would check on you guys and this on going misfortune,

I agree with you Degan!
I was looking forward to using his dies, they did look to be well made and at a very good price.

It's too bad he did not have better people skills.

[RP]

Another bump to keep it up top and is two months really long enough to be a long time lurker?

[mecoastie]

I got my dies from Colt about mid June I think. Look good havent had a chance to try them yet and probably wont until the fall.

[Fla9-40]

I got my dies from Colt about mid June I think. Look good havent had a chance to try them yet and probably wont until the fall.


How long did it take you to get them?

[mecoastie]

How long did it take you to get them?

About 3 months.

[Mfields]

Recieved my dies from Colt today. Haven't had a chance to use them, but they look
good. He packed them well with case. Since I made contact with him, he followed through on everything he said he would.

I believe he went though a rough time, but he seems to be on the right track now. Hopefully he learned from his mistakes and is now on the right path.

Thanks

[RP]

Any one know what steel he used to make the dies I want to get mine repaired then heat treated? He will not return my calls or PMs.

[DukeInFlorida]

But.......

Look at all the money you saved!!!!!

:killingpc


Any one know what steel he used to make the dies I want to get mine repaired then heat treated? He will not return my calls or PMs.

[algunjunkie]

Don't feel bad he has my press and is doing the same thing. Will not answer his phone, return an email or PM.

[RP]

Duke at the time I got my dies BT was not making any or was anyone else making any for sale. I got dies from BT and would have gotten my 224 dies from him also. It was not a matter of saving money but getting dies that would work in the presses i already own. I understand your a fan of BTs and do not have a dog in this fight so why do you insist on commenting. Its not helping anyone. If you have anything helpful please share.

[DukeInFlorida]

BT was very much talking about upcoming 224 sets. Why do you think I and a bunch of others held off, waiting? It was due to BT's reputation for honesty in business, and quality in product.

Versus jumping the gun, and getting.... well.... stuck as a few have.

You guys should, at this point:
1) Get 45Nut (Ken) to allow you to post a DEADBEAT thread, detailing the situation.
2) Consider taking legal action, in small claims court to get $$$ and press back.
3) Do a little detective work, and find other ways to get to this deadbeat. Job? Where's he living? Sending demand notices to his employer will get him in hot water at work, etc.

Unless you guys are still buying the spider bite BS...........

[algunjunkie]

Way ahead of you. Know where he works, his home addresses, cell and home phone numbers and know that he does not have a business license. Got full name birthday and everything i need to file. Just waiting on the paperwork from my attorney.

[RP]

Well again thanks for all the support and ideals but back to what I said he was not making them at the time. And waiting for a unknown date of when is not my ideal of being smart. But back to the point you dont have a dog in this fight so why are you so hard press in lighting up a torch and picking up a rope to hunt him down. Was I over on the 45/70 brass buy beating a dead horse. Step back and look at the over all pic and say to yourself are you past being helpful and moved on to something else?

[Reload3006]

this is all really a pity. I was surly hoping for a second source for dies.

[DukeInFlorida]

Have you guys seen this post???

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=1848526&postcount=20

If Coltac owes any of you $$$ or product, you best get right on this guy..............

I presume that this is one of the ads referred to:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Derim-die-jacket-maker-swage-die-22LR-into-224-jackets-/120987119592?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b64efe8

[perotter]

I was referring to a complete set of .224 dies that have now been sold. But this derim die is from the same person.

[DukeInFlorida]

Well, that confirms then that this deadbeat is not dying of a spider bite, nor is he hospitalized. I've said, so many times before: I don't have a horse in this race. But I hate seeing people get screwed here, especially when it was predicted that it was coming. I brought this thread back to life, hoping that those who are out of money or product will understand that they should pursue their case.

Let us know how it works out.

[Utah Shooter]

Would it be too much to ask if you have ordered from him and not received dies to say "I"?

[algunjunkie]

Ok "I"

[rasto]

Probably used your money to process dies and sell them via ebay :-(

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bullet-Swaging-Swage-Die-Set-7-8-x-14-TPI-224-dies-/120993673096?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2bc8ef88

[mystaiced]

I have also been ripped off by Colt A. Carpenter. alittle reseach found these addresses and phone numbers for Colt A Carpenter
(541) 575-2751
400 S Canyon Blvd
John Day, OR 97845-1049

Edge Dies
400 South Canyon Blvd
Canyon City, OR 97820
(206)484-0397

Anyone live out that way?

[rbt50]

i see he is selling on ebay if that is any help.

[DukeInFlorida]

Internet FRAUD is a nasty jail time game.

I suggest that you file claims with the FBI:
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Years ago, I had a Russian guy arrested and deported for an eBay scam. So, I know it works!

[1bluehorse]

I have also been ripped off by Colt A. Carpenter. alittle reseach found these addresses and phone numbers for Colt A Carpenter
(541) 575-2751
400 S Canyon Blvd
John Day, OR 97845-1049

Edge Dies
400 South Canyon Blvd
Canyon City, OR 97820
(206)484-0397

Anyone live out that way?

I lived there many years ago when I worked for the FS. Still have a couple friends that live there..both very small towns that actually run into each other. Nice, nice, country, good folks there, with the exception of at least one evidently..about 200 miles from where I live now.

[DukeInFlorida]

got this reply today from Coltac in my eBay complaint to eBay:
----------------

Dear Duke,

I will get on Casboolits tomorrow and post about it.


- coltadam541
----------------

Can't wait to hear what he has to say.

[algunjunkie]

Would love to hear this BS excuse.

[DukeInFlorida]

Well, he already didn't already follow through today as he said he would.
I suggest that those of you who got screwed to also report this guy to eBay as a thief. And, to report him to the FBI. He'll lose his abilities to list items.

[RP]

Just a bump to get more interesting comments and I am sure this horse can take some more beating. BTW anyone that has a set of his dies and on the nose die ejection rod, I kept bending mine so I drilled it out to 3/32 and got a SS tig welding rod for a ejection rod works great for me. Sorry to hear others got screwed over on the deal. If he heat treated the dies and followed threw with his orders this was a cheap set of dies to see if you wanted to start out with. Maybe someone will pick up making dies around the same price range for those that want to test the waters.

[BT Sniper]

Yep! Still a scare on the face of this great swage sight and a wound that still must hurt several here.

You mentioned a cheap allternative for anyone wanting to test the waters of swaging....... I still, and will always say there is no better, or cheaper option then the 40 cal one step die!

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

[perotter]

Maybe someone will pick up making dies around the same price range for those that want to test the waters.

I'm not sure there is a way to make a "cheap" set of dies, sell them, keep food in the belly and a warm fire going. At least at current demand levels and end user expectations.

[RP]

I have to say BT that die is a great one I have one BTW and works great. I was mainly saying for all the guys making 224 dies this guy jumped out with a die set that was priced cheap enough to get the fill of fully. And was before you got your package deal going. Which from looking at others your are the best dies for the money.

[mystaiced]

Complaint filed with IC3. Good luck Colt, hopefully you are arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. you con artist.......