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morgans
03-25-2012, 09:03 PM
Does any one have info on this tin, just aquired it, and its in good shape and still full, it was sold by JL Farquharson Rome NY:coffeecom, Sorry I've been Off line for a bit, hope this is right area to post this.
http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh542/morganrestorations/don3.jpg



http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh542/morganrestorations/don4.jpg

Thank you in advance for any info, Oh it stands 2 3/4 inches high.

SciFiJim
03-26-2012, 01:05 AM
That's a pretty neat little can. If ever a can had a story, I am sure that one does. I hope someone can tell it.

Longwood
03-26-2012, 01:15 AM
It looks like the kind that came in the fancy wood, leather and felt rifle cases when came with and were fitted to the guns and accessories.
I just about betcha someone would pay dearly for it.

Rocky Raab
03-26-2012, 09:53 AM
If that is "FF" on the label, it is blackpowder. Before the advent of smokeless, all gun propellant was simply called "powder" or "gunpowder" because there was only one kind. Based on that, your can is probably from 1894 or earlier.

If you haven't yet removed the cap, don't. UNopened (sealed) cans are worth several times what an opened one would be - and that one could be worth a tidy sum.

w30wcf
03-26-2012, 11:26 AM
morgans,
According to the book Gunpowder Cans & Kegs
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=159519&CAT=4148

Your can is circa 1870 and is valued at $450-$1,000 depending on condition.
Notes:
Probably an agent or hardware store or agent with their own label.

Perhaps it is named after...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farquharson_rifle

w30wcf

wiljen
03-26-2012, 12:06 PM
Found some interesting info on JL Farquharson of Rome NY. He died in 1890 according to his will found here: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ny/oneida/wills/v45/farquharson-johnl.txt

It shows that he was chief of the Rome NY police force from 1880-1881 here:
http://www.romepd.com/listing.asp?orgId=84

I have not been able to establish his relation to rifle business as no mention of such is made in his will. I know the rifle patent was from 1872 and at that point the Patent holder was listed as John (no middle initial) in Scotland and that he partnered with Gibbs rifle company to make the guns. I cant find anything on his emigration to the US if indeed this is the same person.

I would check with the Hagley Museum as they preserve much of the old dupont history and could probably tell you if that container was made by dupont or if it is an after market repackaging by JL. It looks similar to this one that is in the Hagley collection:

http://digital.hagley.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/p268001coll4&CISOPTR=3064&CISOBOX=1&REC=2

morgans
03-30-2012, 10:30 PM
morgans,
According to the book Gunpowder Cans & Kegs
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=159519&CAT=4148

Your can is circa 1870 and is valued at $450-$1,000 depending on condition.
Notes:
Probably an agent or hardware store or agent with their own label.

Perhaps it is named after...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farquharson_rifle

w30wcf

Evening All
Thank you very much for the information, have not been on line much, big help, the can is in really nice shape and still has the powder in it, paper lable has no rips in it either. The guy I bough this from stuck me the first time, so this was second group of items I bought, really thanks, makes me feel better about my over spending as usall.:drinks:

morgans
03-30-2012, 10:31 PM
If that is "FF" on the label, it is blackpowder. Before the advent of smokeless, all gun propellant was simply called "powder" or "gunpowder" because there was only one kind. Based on that, your can is probably from 1894 or earlier.

If you haven't yet removed the cap, don't. UNopened (sealed) cans are worth several times what an opened one would be - and that one could be worth a tidy sum.

Thank you this has a FF on one side and G on the other:mrgreen: Forgot to Mention its still full never been opended,Thanks again

morgans
03-30-2012, 10:35 PM
It looks like the kind that came in the fancy wood, leather and felt rifle cases when came with and were fitted to the guns and accessories.
I just about betcha someone would pay dearly for it.


Not sure how to reply to all quotes at once, I'm really greatful for everyones help.And now I know the value, I think your right about someone paying dearly for it, maybe someday I'll trade it off for a Winchester, I bought it for the old school look to have in my shop I'm putting back together. Thanks again to everyone. :drinks: