Info on Ideal 308 291

[shootnstarz]

Just picked up an Ideal 308 291 2 holer and can't find any info on it anywhere. Anybody know anything about it? Looks like about a 180 gr RN. What top punch should I get?

Rick

[94Doug]

same as current 311291.

Doug

[dale2242]

Doug is correct.
It is a great booit designed for the 30-30.
Use the Lyman 291 top punch.....dale

[Ben]

Although the mold number is 308291 instead of the modern designation of 311291, don't expect it to throw a 308 " cast bullet. Most likely, your bullets will run about .312" or more. The old IDEAL's were known to throw bullets a bit on the large side of things ( which in my opinion is good )

Yours should weigh between 170 and 175 grs. depending on your alloy.

Ben

[Hurricane]

The 311291 is over 100 years in production and is still a top seller. Expect extremely good accuracy from your 308291.

[shootnstarz]

Thanks a million guys.

Rick

[462]

I have a ventless, single cavity version that drops in the .313" range. Bolt or lever gun, all my .30 caliber rifles love it. I love it, because the boolit actually jumps out, as if the cavity were spring loaded.

[dubber123]

It is a bore riding design, and depending on your particular gun, the bore riding section might be small. I have a Savage 219 single shot with a large bore, and my Lyman 311291's shot good but not great in it. Years back, we did a group buy with LEE for this design, and the molds came in with fat nose sections that fit my Savage perfectly, and cut my groups by more than 1/2.

[shootnstarz]

The rifles I plan on shooting CBs from will be a M-1 and a 1903 or 03A3, and possibly a M-1A in the future. Anybody used this bullet in the old battle rifles?

Rick

[462]

One of my .30 caliber rifles that loves that boolit is an '03-A3.

I'm still in the devolopement stage, with it, in the K-31's.

[rintinglen]

Shoots well in my sporterized 1903. 20 grains of 2400 gives me better groups than I get with factory ammo. This is a mild load that won't function the action on a semi-auto, but for fun plinking, it is perfect.

[Ben]

shootnstarz :

Cast a few and tell us what the dimensions are on the drive bands and the nose.

Ben

[shootnstarz]

The nose being the diameter just ahead of the forward most band?

Also the Lyman 311291 says to use the #465 top punch, a #291 was recommended in a previous reply. Does it matter which?

Rick