Baby Desert Eagle ejection problems

[AR-15 Cowboy]

A friend of mine has a Baby Desert Eagle .45 ACP and no matter what he tries he can't get his gun to cycle reloaded ammo. He tried my reloads for my Taurus 1911A1 they wouldn't eject either. The only boolits that run good through gun are factory loads. I mic'd the reloads and they were the same length, diameter, case length, everything looked the same, but they wouldn't work in his gun. These are basic 228 gr. RN. Anyone have any ideas?

[stubshaft]

What powder and charge weight are you using?

[AR-15 Cowboy]

Titegroup @ 4.6 gr.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

My friend also tried some Bullseye loads 5.2 gr with some Glow Ammo tabs, they didn't work either.

[Grapeshot]

Did you check the extractor? Might be the extractor isn't grabing the case all the way and the case isn't hitting the ejector hard enough to function as designed.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

The gun shoots factory ammo just fine. This is only happening with reloads.

[dubber123]

If it has a short throat in the barrel, having too much full diameter boolit past the case mouth will cause it to engage the rifling, causing feeding issues. Even so, if you get them fully into battery, they normally will fire and eject fine. Is it only during ejecting a live round by hand that you are having issues?

I see you mention 228 grain RN. Is it the LEE boolit with the 2 regular lube grooves? If so, you can't load that boolit to standard OAL without a bunch of full diameter drive band past the case, you have to shorten the OAL until they will chamber. I've shot close to 30,000 of them, and have always needed to use a shorter than normal OAL. Good luck.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

Yes, it is the Lee 228 boolit. And it happens when either ejecting by hand or live fire. How much shorter than normal OAL do you go?

[375RUGER]

are the factory ammo jacketed? and the reloads cast?
The baby eagle is recoil operated, correct?
I think your friend needs more power or a lighter recoil spring. Your loads are not maxed, 4.6TG, you can go upto about 5.3g. or try another powder like W231 or Universal. I use a charge of Universal 5.7 in my guns and it is safe in them. NOTE: this is 0.1g over the published max., but safe in MY guns.
How does his baby eagle do with light, 185-200 grain factory loads?

that is a healthy dose of bullseye if it is a 230g slug. what is glow ammo?

[AR-15 Cowboy]

Jacketed factory ammo, reloads are cast Lee 228 gn RN, gun is recoil operated. Glow ammo is a cold tracer. When reloading you place a small sticker on the bottom of the booliy base. The effect is a cool tracer. My son uses them as a training device, and it/s his friend that is having the Baby Eagle problem. Another friend of his has a Kemper and it shoots just fine with this boolit. I think Dubber has the answer with case length needs to be less OAL than normal.
http://www.glowammo.com/

[jlm223]

I had a Taurus 1911, worked up a load for it everything was good, traded the gun and got a DE 1911, it would not cycle the load I had worked up for the Taurus, bumped the powder charge and it took care of the problem.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

I love my Taurus. Feels good. shoots good, and I'm a lot more accurate with it than my other guns.

[dubber123]

Yes, it is the Lee 228 boolit. And it happens when either ejecting by hand or live fire. How much shorter than normal OAL do you go?

Try 1.245" Any longer and the boolit is into the throat on my pistol, and I get malfunctions. Good luck.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

What kind of pistol Dubber

[dubber123]

What kind of pistol Dubber


Springfield 1911-A1. Too much full diameter front drive band outside the case does the same thing on a few others I've fiddled with.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

Do you think if I put a small flare crimp it would reduce the diameter enough to make a difference?

[dubber123]

Are you sizing, or just tumble lubing and shooting as cast? If you are sizing, I just seat so maybe .020" of the visibly sized front band is past the case mouth. The short nose on that LEE design gives some people fits, but I have no problems.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

I size with a .452 sizer and then tumble lube with Lee Alox. My OAL is 1.245 I'm going to try pushing the bullet down a little further and see what that does.

[NickSS]

I am assuming that your trouble is in the round seating all the way. I have the same trouble with a Citidel 1911 officers model and cured it witn a tapper crimp die. I used to get lead bullet loads even ones with no shoulder at the case mouth jamming and not letting the slide all the way home. A lee tapper crimp die fixed this and the gun now functions flawlessly and is even more accurate than previously.

[bobthenailer]

Some clone TZ 75 pistols have a extraction problem! the fix is to install a Wolffe extra power extracter spring.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

I am assuming that your trouble is in the round seating all the way. I have the same trouble with a Citidel 1911 officers model and cured it witn a tapper crimp die. I used to get lead bullet loads even ones with no shoulder at the case mouth jamming and not letting the slide all the way home. A lee tapper crimp die fixed this and the gun now functions flawlessly and is even more accurate than previously.

What do they mean by "Tapper die"?

[dubber123]

What do they mean by "Tapper die"?

Taper crimp die. It is usually best with autos to seat and crimp in two seperate operations.

[AR-15 Cowboy]

Ok, taper crimp die. I am going to try putting a crimp on. But I was just thinking of a small flare crimp, just enough to turn the head of the case rim in and reshape that upper part of the case.