Looking for a 30/06 load for cast 200gr

[redbear705]

I just started casting for the rifles and I would like to get some of your favorite loads to try out........that way maybe I wont get myself in too much trouble right away!:-D

This is for a bolt action Remington....the boolit is a LEE 200gr rn.....I need to get gas checks for them but will start out with light loads unchecked.

Thanks for any info.....JR

[MT Gianni]

13 gr Red Dot or 16 gr 2400 are the classic loads for military cartridges which the 06 is and 130-180 gr boolits. I would back off a few grains and see what she will do. I am assuming that there is no copper left in the bore or your range session will be frustrating. Good Luck, Gianni.

[Phil]

You might also try 20/21 grains of SR4759 and 24 grains of IMR4198. The Red Dot load that MT Gianni suggested is also a good one, I have to go up a bit on the 2400 load to make it work, but 16 grains is a good starting point.

Good luck!

Phil

[grumpy one]

I'll inject what I think is a clarification here: those loads suggested seem to be for a gas-checked bullet. My expectation would be that 20 grains of 4227 or 4759 without a gas check will leave lead in your barrel and a lot of bullets cantering off cross-range toward other people's targets. If you want to work without gas checks, you might start off with about 8 grains of Unique, or 5 grains of W231, and increase cautiously after you've checked your intial groups. If you decide to use checks, those of the loads suggested that I've tried are just about right.

[Phil]

Yeah, I wouldn't shoot them unchecked with those loads either. My assumption was that he wanted some loads to shoot with the gas checks he was getting.

Cheers,

Phil

[MT Gianni]

Pm me with an address and I will mail you a hundred gas checks or so till you get some. Gianni.

[Buckshot]

...............My favorite '-06 load is the Lyman 311284 and 23.0grs of H4198 + dacron. Need 2-B GC'd. About 1650 fps.

................Buckshot

[sundog]

You're setting yourself up for disappointment. Get the GCs and use some of the loads listed here with 4759, 2400, 4227, 4198. Be conservative until you begin getting some worthwhile groups. When you build confidence into the equation, things usually go better.

I shot my last mil bolt match with SAECO #301 (196 gr) and 21.0/4227 in an rack grade 03A3. One 10-round group was a tad over 2" and the other a tad over 3". Scores on SR21 were 98, 98, 98, all with Xs. I can't improve too much on that.

[redbear705]

Thanks for the info guys.....I think I will wait for the gas checks before loading these up.

In the mean time I will get the bore cleaned of all copper material,which should not be too hard since there have only been maybe 50 rounds total through this gun!

I would like to get this load worked up before hunting season cause I would like to try and get my deer with my homebrew this year!

I want to try the two alloy bullet(soft front hard rear) :)

JR

ps 5 grs w231 will be enough to get the boolit out? :)

[Paul B]

"In the mean time I will get the bore cleaned of all copper material,which should not be too hard since there have only been maybe 50 rounds total through this gun!"

That's an absolute must. I'll go as far as using Sweet's 7.62 for a few passes. By that, I mean three or four sessions of using Sweet's, letting it soak in and wiping out for three or four times. Then, I'll work over the softened up copper that's left with JB Bore Paste until I see absolutely no traces of copper at all.
Then, when shooting the cast bullets, I load up enough that I'll have at least five, and preferably ten extras to "season" or "foul" the bore to accept lead bullets.
I use the same loads for both the .308 Win. and 30-06 using bullets in the 180 to 190 gr. weight level. My loads are 16.0 gr. of Alliant #2400, 17.0 gr. of IMR-4227 or 25.0 gr. of either IMR or H-4895, whichever I happen to hand on hand.
Accuray has been goos with 1.5 MOA at 200 yards from the bench in one rifle and 2.5 MOA at 300 yards from another. Good groups like these only come when it's not too windy.
I have the mold you plan on using. Take a couple of the bullets and stick the nose into the muzzle. Hopefully they will either not enter or be very tight. If they wobble about to any degree, accuracy will not be all that good. If that's the case, look into "beagling" the mould.
Paul B.

[Buckshot]

..............redbear705, If you plan on hunting with cast, please spend some time understanding the trajectory of the load you settle on. Using 10" paper plates placed at known ranges out to your honestly/realisticly decided maximum will supply real world information. As a rule you're dealing with a medium to heavy for caliber boolit at velocities 500 to 700 fps slower then a comparable jacketed slug. Be fair to the game animal and educate yourself in the process.

...............Buckshot

[Bass Ackward]

JR,

If you are wanting to hunt with this, you want a little more umph than a standard target load which is what they gave you. I would go with the 4198 and just up the charge another grain or two until your accuracy goes wild and then back off.

One trick is to add LLA over your other lube and then to use a magnum pistol primer. These can normally get you another 100 fps accurately. I think you want 1800 to 2000 fps for best results.

Then don't extend your range too much. Use water filled milk jugs to see where your (the deer's) .... adrenilin range ends. The jugs must burst for broad side shots. Beyond that "maximum" range, what ever that is, you will need a docile, feeding target, a more critical placement, or a good pair of tennis shoes. :grin:

[arkypete]

I found a good buy on a Winchester 95 in 30-06. I was planning to make it into a 375 Whelen, but decided against it. I didn't much care for any of the bullet styles available so got Mountain Molds to make me a 208 grain gas checked bullet.
I wanted to make this Winchester the practice gun for the 405, so I planned on using full power loads, that's those shiney red things.
I'm using surplus IMR 4895, don't remember the quanity, the data is down in the loading shed, Win. primers, Remington cases. The bullets are water quinched at casting, sized .311, the bullet nose engages the rifling at chambering, the gas checks are annealed.
I load them by the hundred and go shoot gongs.
Jim

[Char-Gar]

The 30-06 is a wonderful round put up in many fine rifles. Most rifles do well with cast, in spite of the 1-10 standard twist barrells.

You have received very good advice.. 16 to 20 grains of 2400, 4227 or 4759 will all give you good result. If you need or want any more velocity, you will be best served to go to a slower power.

The world is replete with good 30 cal. cast bullet designs. 311284, 311291, 311467, 311407 and RCBS 160 Sil are among my "no fail" favorites for the 30-06.

I will soon be testing SAECO 301 and expect it to join the fleet of favorites.

[TAWILDCATT]

13 Gr. Of Red Dot In As Issued Springfield Cronies At 1680fs.sights Set At 300yds For 100 Yds.

[redbear705]

Pm me with an address and I will mail you a hundred gas checks or so till you get some. Gianni.


Thanks for the offer but my 'checks' are on the way.


Thanks again!

JR

[redbear705]

..............redbear705, If you plan on hunting with cast, please spend some time understanding the trajectory of the load you settle on. Using 10" paper plates placed at known ranges out to your honestly/realisticly decided maximum will supply real world information. As a rule you're dealing with a medium to heavy for caliber boolit at velocities 500 to 700 fps slower then a comparable jacketed slug. Be fair to the game animal and educate yourself in the process.

...............Buckshot




Dont worry about that!

I will know these loads inside and out and how they react to all kinds of targets at different ranges.....

I dont like having to chase my prey too far, so a critical shot is paramount! :)

JR