Ruger 32 H&R mag question

[Bardo]

I was wondering what boolit the little ruger single sixes with fixed sights perfer so the POA and POI are the same at around 25 yards? I'm looking to get one soon.

Thanks, Bardo

[Reg]

Lyman 3118, vary your charge a bit to fine tune it.

:drinks:

[9.3X62AL]

That might be a good question to ask Sturm, Ruger & Co.--"What load were your fixed-sight SSM variants regulated for?" Factory Federal loads had 95 grain lead SWCs running ~1025 FPS, or 85 grain JHP or XTP at roughly 1100 FPS. Such loads might be a good start point.

My Ruger SSM and S&W Model 16-4 (adjustable-sighted 32 Mags) preferred/prefer 95-100 grain boolits over 115-120 grainers. My 32-20 revolvers and the 30 Carbine Blackhawk prefer 110-120 grain boolits.

[jmsj]

Hey guys,
I was just searching for information for the 32 H&R magnum using the 311008. I have been using this bullet in my 30/30 plinking loads and have been thinking about using it in my 32 H&R magnum Single-Six. Last night I casted up about 500 of these
Reg,
What powders do you reccomend for this combo?
Thanks, jmsj

[Green Frog]

:coffeecom I'm watching this thread with interest too as I have the NOE 314008 four cavity mould an want to use it not only with the .32 Mag but the .327 Fed Mag and .32-20 as well. In fact, I used to cast up bullets from my old original Ideal 3118 single cav to shoot in the first of several .32 S&W Long I-frames I've had.

Froggie

[Nobade]

Hey guys,
I was just searching for information for the 32 H&R magnum using the 311008. I have been using this bullet in my 30/30 plinking loads and have been thinking about using it in my 32 H&R magnum Single-Six. Last night I casted up about 500 of these
Reg,
What powders do you reccomend for this combo?
Thanks, jmsj

I shoot mine with 5.5gr. Accurate #5 for smokeless loads, and FFFg for black powder loads. Shoots great both ways using that #3118 bullet, air cooled wheelweights.

[Bardo]

I'm wondering if very many people shot the fixed sights. Not alot of responses. I have the Ruger single six in a 4.625" with adjustable sights and love it. But I like the looks of the birdshead grip in stainless. But I dont want one if they are hard to shot straight. I have 3 molds in the 95-100 gr. range and one (118gr NOE 313640).

Thanks, Bardo

[9.3X62AL]

Bardo--

Just my view of the question, but the 32 Magnum has always been a caliber in search of a venue to fit into. Originally, its "founders" conceived of it as a field cartridge for small game that could have utility as a defensive caliber for recoil-shy shooters. The majority of early production examples featured adjustable sights to accomodate the field users. Over time, as CCW rights FINALLY got extended to more and more people/states, fixed sight compact variants became more common. Lastly, the caliber was embraced by Cowboy Action shooters, where fixed-sight single-action models like your revolver are appropriate.

I summarized my experiences with the caliber above, and none of my examples had fixed sights. My perspective HEAVILY favors field usage for varmints and small game.

[Green Frog]

Bardo--

Just my view of the question, but the 32 Magnum has always been a caliber in search of a venue to fit into. Originally, its "founders" conceived of it as a field cartridge for small game that could have utility as a defensive caliber for recoil-shy shooters. The majority of early production examples featured adjustable sights to accomodate the field users. Over time, as CCW rights FINALLY got extended to more and more people/states, fixed sight compact variants became more common. Lastly, the caliber was embraced by Cowboy Action shooters, where fixed-sight single-action models like your revolver are appropriate.

I summarized my experiences with the caliber above, and none of my examples had fixed sights. My perspective HEAVILY favors field usage for varmints and small game.

:goodpost: Well put, 9.3X62AL... This seems to me a potentially highly flexible cartridge that has been stuck in mostly low end platforms. Neither Ruger nor S&W made enough of their high end revolvers (BH Buckeye Special and S&W Model 16-4) to really establish a market/fan base. Then, before you knew it, they were all gone and people who would have soon been inspired to buy them were sitting around wondering what happened. It's just plain frustrating!! [smilie=b: Maybe we can drag the manufacturers kicking and screaming into building more good 327 Fed Mags like the stainless BH 8-shooter.:Fire: Now if we could get Ruger to make a 327 FM Flat Top! [smilie=w:

Froggie

PS and I was just reading through SCSW and had a thought... how about a S&W 631 in 4" with adjustable sights? With the new, longer J-frame platform, it could definitely handle the .327 FM length! 8-)

[Haggway]

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the crotch of the person who stole my Ruger SSM in 32 H&R.
That was one of my favorite hand guns to shoot. Loaded with 32 S&W Long it was a real tack driver. I miss that gun. Thanks for brinking back the memories.

[beagle]

The 311008 is one of my best .32 Mag bullets. I've shot it in both the SS and Buckeye .32 Mag and it's a winner.

Look in Castpics/Articles by Members/ Cast in the .32 Mag for the loads I used./beagle

[rststeve]

Ed Harris was my inspiration for the 32's. He has several posts on line for loads and bullet weights and styles. I had the same gun as you at one time shooting the RCBS 325 very accurate with AA#5. Getting these things to shoot poit of aim is the challenge. Step up and have some fun you will love it. I currently shoot the Ruger revolvers in 327 fed I like ajdustable sights. Good luck you have a keeper there.

[19112TAP]

I have had good luck with the 311008, 311008HP & RCBS 32-98 SWC all using AA#7 in my Ruger .32 H&R Bisley.

[NoZombies]

I haven't commented, mainly because I have no experience with the fixed sight Rugers, but I'll go ahead and mention that the 3118 (311008) and 31133 (HP version of same) were some of the best shooting bullets from my single six 32's. Not to mention a number of other .32's I've tried.

Below is a sample target from one of my Rugers with the 31133 at 25 yards:

http://nozombies.com/cast/32/results/5.jpg

[VA Shooter]

I load the 311008 for my 327 GP 100 and it likes just about any powder that I put in the case. I wish I had at least a 4 cav for it 2 cav is too slow. I think I will look into an accurate mold.

[primersp]

for my s&w 16-4 rcbs 32-98 swc and lyman 311008 work well ,i have some tumble with an lyman 311316 ,but this bullet is very good in 30/30 loads

[dougader]

I love the 32's. The middle one on the right started off like the one below it. I had Alan Harton add S&W adj rear sights for my old eyes. The problem with this gun, after Alan worked on it, is that it shoots everything well.

I haven't rolled my own yet on the 32's, but I load a 94 grain RNFP with 3 grains WW231 for a nice target/plinking round.

Per Brian Pearce at Handloader, I also loaded up 90 grain Sierra and 100 grain xtp's with H110/W296. I've gone as high as 11.6 grains W296 with a CCI 350 primer. The gun handles with ease. Brian's max was 11.8 grains with the 100 grain Hornady xtp.

http://steelheader.smugmug.com/photos/i-RgRBGfQ/1/M/i-RgRBGfQ-M.jpg (http://steelheader.smugmug.com/Fana/32s/18716133_Gm2z8h#!i=1653417227&k=RgRBGfQ&lb=1&s=A)

[9.3X62AL]

My current revolver in 32 Magnum might not accomodate current castings from the Lyman #311008, owing to the revolver's .314" throats and ~.3125" grooves. My RCBS 32-98-SWC falls out at .315", so all is well. That is its best boolit to date, by some distance.

I have a Mountain Molds 115 grainer that is revolver-specific and falls out at .315". It isn't quite as accurate in the M16-4, but is DEAD NUTS ACCURATE in the S&W M&P x 5" in 32-20. This one also has .314" throats. Sized to .314" and stoked with 6.0 grains of SR-4756, it shoots right to the sights at 25 and 50 yards--and is a jackrabbit assassin of the first order. Please note that the M&P is a fixed-sight revolver, so they can be wrangled into compliance with a bit of manipulation.

One other scarce mould I have on hand is the Lyman #313631. This is a gas-checked 100 grain SWC, and in my 32 Mag it didn't impress until I ran it past 1200 FPS. Once sent downrange at speeds it likes, it REALLY shoots--almost as well as the RCBS SWC. Pour enough AA-7 in, and 1500 FPS is possible. And YES, these are as loud as 30 Carbine Rugers going off. Maybe worse.

#311316 doesn't do well in my 32 Mag, possibly due to being a mite undersized. It just cleans up in a .313" sizer, so it gets used in the Marlin 94CCL in 32-20 where it does quite well. A shorter version of this design--#311419--has the same dimensionsal limit, and at .312" it ROCKS in my CZ-52, running 1500 FPS with enough of the same fuel (AA-7) starting the music. What flat-nosed 31 caliber pistol boolits starting at 1500 FPS do to rats and jacks must be beheld to be believed.

Size matters, and wear ear protection.

[gunfan]

Most .32 revolvers are pretty accurate with anything that you feed them. Many are set up to shoot the 98-grain RNL out-of-the-box.

100-grain bullets are great target fodder, because they are specifically designed for cutting holes in paper (Wad cutter bullets.)

Try shooting some higher-end loads for the 98-grain RNL for starters, then move to moderate loads in a 100-grain wad cutter for accuracy and see where these take you.

All the best,

Scott