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340six
03-02-2012, 12:01 AM
Still needs more cleaning as it still has some cosmo but cleaned up well.
1955 SA
I have had it awhile now and still have not fired it did get a mould so i can cast for it down the line.
but will start out with some M2 ball
http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Garand/?albumview=slideshow

462
03-02-2012, 12:36 AM
Owning a Garand is one of life's true high points.

I have a '43 Springfield. Shooting it is the most fun I've ever had with my clothes on.

garandsrus
03-02-2012, 12:41 AM
Beautiful rifle!

340six
03-02-2012, 12:52 AM
Forgot to post the 311365 group buy mould i was able to get awhile back
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Red%20Carnuba/Lyman311365.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Red%20Carnuba/311365-168A-Max-1.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Red%20Carnuba/311365-150-3.jpg

madsenshooter
03-02-2012, 09:24 AM
Wow, that's one squirrely serial #, but a very nice rifle. Oh, you did that! Never did understand the paranoia of not showing serial #s online, but to each his own.

cheese1566
03-02-2012, 09:54 AM
Wow, that's one squirrely serial #, but a very nice rifle. Oh, you did that! Never did understand the paranoia of not showing serial #s online, but to each his own.

Some crazy loon out in Internet land will find the picture and serial number. They will fraud everyone by saying his gun with that serial number was stolen just recently and he just found it missing and now found it posted on the Internet. Files police report....and the investigation begins.

340six
03-02-2012, 10:05 AM
Some crazy loon out in Internet land will find the picture and serial number. They will fraud everyone by saying his gun with that serial number was stolen just recently and he just found it missing and now found it posted on the Internet. Files police report....and the investigation begins.

Or take the picture and sell it on Gun Broker as his gun same is done with cars steal picture sell it and do not even have it:groner:

Hardcast416taylor
03-02-2012, 01:20 PM
Excellent photo montage. Very nice looking M-1. I also will not show a firearms serial no., too many fruits out there with a bent mind and have a computer!Robert...

30cal
03-02-2012, 01:26 PM
Nice,your gonna love it.Ive had mine prob 25 yrs and the only time it has malfunctioned was a failure to feed on the first rnd(bent clip).That happened just twice.It is the most reliable firearm I own.She may be old but can still put it out there with the best of `em.

Idaho Sharpshooter
03-02-2012, 02:01 PM
Speaking of Garands; Jaws was on cable last night. The Chief sure took care of that shark with the one Quint had in the boat.

Garands kick ***, on land or sea...

Rich

crawfobj
03-02-2012, 02:07 PM
Care to share your load data/experience with your Garand and the 311165? I have one too and hope to get started loading for my garand with it this weekend. Also just picked up a bunch of pulldown 147gr bt fmjs to load.

ilcop22
03-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Nice looking Garand!

I've got a CMP myself. October 1942 Springfield Armory, 925XXX.

Pirate69
03-02-2012, 03:50 PM
I have had good luck with 170 grain cast over 34 grains of surplus H4895 and a bit of dacron. Works the action quite well. My pulldown load is 46 grains of surplus H4895 over the mil surplus bullet. Works good with a 150 grain spitzer for hunting also.

405
03-03-2012, 05:05 PM
Do love them! Many of the late model- post Korea SA Garands are NICE! Take care of it. Chances are it will be difficult upgrade.

340six
03-03-2012, 08:38 PM
Care to share your load data/experience with your Garand and the 311165? I have one too and hope to get started loading for my garand with it this weekend. Also just picked up a bunch of pulldown 147gr bt fmjs to load.
Used a load of 34 grain of H4895
Someone did me a favor and ran some #'s on his computer program Quick Load and got this info sorry long

Using 2.28” COL, and your cases have 68 grains of overflow capacity or if they have 70 grains of overflow capacity (numbers in the range I've run into with Garands), the pressure difference will be about 4.6% or about 22,494 psi vs. 21,459 psi peak, respectively, and 6775 psi and 6756 psi gas port pressure, 0r about 0.3% difference, respectively (expansion as the bullet goes down the barrel tends to even remaining pressure out). The velocity difference calculated is then 1925 fps vs. 1901 fps from a perfect bore with .0734 in² cross-sectional area. If you get your hands on a chronograph and measure velocity, I can then adjust the QL parameters to deduce what is closer to actual pressure in your gun based on the velocity it actually gets. That will compensate for how tight or loose your gun actually is.
It looks to me like the 311356 is about a 4 caliber ogive radius so it's about 0.6" of total ogive length. That .305" diameter is a tight fitting slightly over-bore section in a .311 groove barrel, and is probably meant to be perfectly happy jammed into the lands for good starting alignment. So you could probably seat it out pretty far to see if that improves accuracy.
If you use that forward lube groove as a crimp groove, you will seat to about 3.22"-3.23" COL, from the drawing. Leaving the front groove exposed, I'd expect to seat to around 3.300" when throat contact occurs in a tight match chamber, but I don't know your gun's chamber and throat, so YMMV. Those seating depths get you 22,557 psi and 1920 fps, and 21,869 psi and 1902 fps, respectively, in the QL calculator.
I looked through the powder tables to see if any powder will do any better for you with your bullet. It looked like Accurate 4064 fills the case best without under-burning. 36 grains. 20570 psi peak, 6577 psi at the gas port, and 1900 fps, even. It fills the case almost 70%, where 34 grains of H4895 only has about 60% fill. Unfortunately, this doesn't mean it will actually perform better in the real world, where H4895 may still do better. Using a magnum primer could benefit you with that low load density. With a lot of extra space to pressurize, they can often bring about better MV consistency.
If you've looked at Chris Long's theory (I still don't know your actual velocity, so I can't adjust) 34.2 grains of H4895 would hit a sweet spot, and 35.1 grains of Varget would hit the same sweet spot, but with maybe 20 fps lower velocity. Quick Load shows the peak pressure being the same within 500 psi for the two, with the Varget being a little lower. The Varget gives slightly more gas port pressure.
If you go to match the peak pressures of your existing load of 34 grain of H4895, it is equaled by 35.2 grains of Varget. The velocity difference is then only around 14 fps different (1887 fps vs. 1902 fps) but the barrel time is shorter for Varget so it will exit in a different part of the barrel vibrations movement. Nonetheless, you may find an accuracy advantage in shorter barrel time. Just have to try it to see.
When I changed the OAL to what is shown in the pictures he ran some new #'s and says
Your pressures are too low for a seating depth difference of a tenth or two to cause trouble. You have enough extra space that you're just changing pressure by 1000 psi or so

madsenshooter
03-04-2012, 01:46 AM
I just shot some experimental duplex loads in my Garand the other day. NOE 311284 over 5gr Blue Dot, 40gr of WC860, 1cc of BPI filler. Full function, no sooty necks, cases sealed well. I fired them quick, it was cold and I'd been playing with a Krag for awhile previously. All shots were on an 8.5x11 sheet at 100yds with the sight on my usual 200 yd j-word zero. Barrel was clean after the shooting, nice and C-Red shiney with no unburnt powder visible. That 311284 fills the throat better than most other bullets I've tried.

Just Duke
04-30-2012, 02:51 PM
Still needs more cleaning as it still has some cosmo but cleaned up well.
1955 SA
I have had it awhile now and still have not fired it did get a mould so i can cast for it down the line.
but will start out with some M2 ball
http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/Garand/?albumview=slideshow

Very nice! :D

Bullet Caster
04-30-2012, 07:14 PM
Very nice Garand. Don't ya just love yer Garand? I love mine. Here's a pic.http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_211414efe109f97ebe.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=3178)
I use the Lee 200 gn. GC in my Garand with 35 gn. of IMR 4895. Now I've got to get me a mould.

Mine was made in May 1942. BC

Just Duke
05-07-2012, 06:44 AM
Very nice Garand. Don't ya just love yer Garand? I love mine. Here's a pic.http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_211414efe109f97ebe.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=3178)
I use the Lee 200 gn. GC in my Garand with 35 gn. of IMR 4895. Now I've got to get me a mould.

Mine was made in May 1942. BC

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