35 cal pointy aka 358365 NOE

[Blammer]

I will be running the GB and we well be using Night Owl Enterprise (NOE) to make the moulds.

A minimum of 5 orders for moulds is required to waive the tooling cost and be placed on the production schedule. This is a small group buy based on a 311365 that NOE has already produced.

Post your order on this thread. I will keep the post below this updated with the orders. When the 5th order has been placed (doesn't have to be paid for) we will then be put on NOE's production schedule.

You may order any number of cavities available. You will just need to pay the appropriate price.

1 cavity moulds are $68 ea.
2 cavity moulds are $72 ea.
3 cavity moulds are $79 ea.
4 cavity moulds are $85 ea.
5 cavity moulds are $92 ea.

The hollow point option for one cavity will be the standard $35.
Blank Hollow point pins will be an extra $1.50 each.

Shipping to you with insurance will be $10

A Lyman, RCBS type top punch is included along with a sample of Bull Plate sprue lube.

I'm the honcho

Darrell Steenwyk
112 Old Lime Kiln Rd
Arden, NC 28704

What you must do:
Send me a letter with your handle, your shipping address, what you ordered, and the money. (check or MO is fine)

The buy will remain open until one month prior to production. ONE MONTH PRIOR TO PRODUCTION I WILL CALL FOR PAYMENT. You do not need to pay prior to this, but you can if you want.
When I call for payment I will need all payments in within the week or you will miss out.

For those out of country please PM me for details on payment options and shipping costs.

NOE will ship them all to me and I’ll test cast with a few of them and then if all is well, send out the moulds.

Here's a picture
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=432&pictureid=5038

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=31&pictureid=5627

[Blammer]

Who want's what
All will be GC unless otherwise stated.

1. Blammer 4C + HP; drill for probePAID
2. midnight 4C; drill for probePAID
3. bearcove 2C; drill for probePAID
4. hicard 4C +HP + 2 extra pins;drill for probePAID
5. crawfobj 4C + HPPAID
6. 94doug 3CPAID
7. doc stihl 5CPAID
8. chuck4570 5C + HPPAID
9. idahoshooter 4C drill for probe
10. 35nut 3C
11. 35nut 3C
12. greywuuf 2C HP
13. chuditch 3C + HP + extra pin cancelled
14. nanuk 1C GC + HP + extra pin plus extra GC's to CanadaPAIDPP 10/24/12
15. plinkster 2C + HP + 2 extra pinsPAID
16. leftiye 1C + HPPAID
17. leftiye 1C + HPPAID
18. flycutter 5C + HP;drill for probePAID
19. james.358 3C + HP + 2 extra blank pinspaid
20. MDF99 4C + HP
21. 2ndamendmentnut 4C all PBPAID

[midnight]

I'm in for a 4 cavity GC.

Bob

[bearcove]

3 cav GC, Please.

Drilled for probe.

[hicard]

I'll sign up for a 4 cavity w/hp option and 2 extra pins, drilled for temp probe.

[Blammer]

updated post #12

[midnight]

How could I forget? Have Swede drill mine for the temp probe.

Bob

[Blammer]

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[crawfobj]

You guys are killing me. This is just what my .35 whelen needs.

4 cavity all gc, w/ 1 HP please.

[94Doug]

Man.......who's idea was this. 3 cavity please.

Doug

[bearcove]

Mine. But it wasn't entirely original just an enlargement of an enlargement.

[Blammer]

updated post #16

[no34570]

I'll take a 3 cavity + Hp please.
And drill for probe please.

[Blammer]

updated.

[Doc_Stihl]

I'll take a 5c

[Blammer]

updated post #28

[chuck4570]

I will take a 5 cav.

[MDF99]

Will a 1:16 twist barrel cut the mustard with this one?

[Blammer]

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not sure on the 16T brl, it's a fairly long and heavy boolit, someone else may be able to chime in better than me.

[nanuk]

What is the diameter, as cast, expected to be on this one??



how hard is it for NOE to alter the size? I have have seen NOE make multi diameter designs.

If there were requests for 0.368-0.369, could NOE add that easily?

or would it require another thread?

just curious.....

[midnight]

Swede's schedule runs through Feb 2013 and this buy isn't on it yet. I'll have my next SS raise in plenty of time although 2013 isn't an election year so they may wait til 2014 to bribe us geezers. My Whelen will be well fed with 358315,358318,358009,358365 & a Hoch 360285.

Bob

[Slam'n Salmon]

Might we see a drawing of the HP option?

[Slam'n Salmon]

Same question

[Blammer]

Yep, let me get NOE to put one up.

[SwedeNelson]

HP Pic.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/1111-193-360270grHP.jpg

Swede Nelson

[hicard]

Wow, now I can't wait after seeing the hp drawing. Could you add 2 extra pins on my order #4 on the list?

[Otto]

Please put me in for a 3 cavity GC with 1 hollow point cavity, 2 pins, drilled for probe.

[Blammer]

updated post #32

[chuck4570]

Add the HP feature to my mold please.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I don't own a rifle in 358 caliber, but this sure looks like an excuse to build one on a VZ24, doesn't it?

Pencil me in for a four cavity, drilled for a probe.


Rich

[no34570]

Blammer
Sorry,but could you please take me off this one?
I was going to use it for a PP for my 9.3x62mm,but will be getting a proper PP bullet for it,sorry!

[Blammer]

Who want's what
All will be GC unless otherwise stated.

1. Blammer 4C + HP; drill for probe
2. midnight 4C; drill for probe
3. bearcove 3C; drill for probe
4. hicard 4C +HP + 2 extra pins;drill for probe
5. crawfobj 4C + HP
6. 94doug 3C
7. doc stihl 5C
8. chuck4570 5C + HP
9. idahoshooter 4C drill for probe
10.

[94Doug]

Bump.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Is this big enough to allow for an RG-4?

that would be the perfect solution to the option list.

Rich

[bearcove]

I think its too long, but defer to those who know for sure. Leaning towards a HP myself.

[35nut]

I want two three cavity with pointed nose 358 cal 270gr as pictured.call me at 702-346-7843 or e-mail kind1@mesquiteweb.com

[Blammer]

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[crawfobj]

Surprised there's not more interest in this one.

[Blammer]

yea, me too, but don't give up hope!

[bearcove]

Blammer, Put me down for a second mold: 1 Cav HP drilled for probe.

[Blammer]

updated

[Elkins45]

What are the chances of getting this one in a RG2 option?

[greywuuf]

I'm in for a 2C HP
Greywuuf@gciDOTnet

[Blammer]

Elkins45, probably slim to none, sorry

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[Chuditch]

Please put me down for,

1 by 3C + HP extra pin please.

[Blammer]

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[Artful]

Will a 1:16 twist barrel cut the mustard with this one?

As long as you keep velocity up it would be marginally stable.
1200 fps to 2000 fps showed yellow
anything faster was good to go...
used this to compute
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi


Stability
Input Data
Caliber: 0.360 in Bullet Weight: 280.0 gr
Bullet Length: 1.400 in
Muzzle Velocity: 2000.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 16.0 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.299

[greywuuf]

Can we mix gc and pb in one mold?

homeland defense begins at home.

[Blammer]

yes you can, no charge

[nanuk]

put me down for one, just not sure what I want yet

Probably a 1C with a HP GC + extra pin to make a FN

[Blammer]

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[Plinkster]

2 cavity with a hollow point and 2 pins please sir.

[Plinkster]

Next year the elk shall fall mightily!

[Blammer]

updated

[leftiye]

Single cavity, gas check, hollow point. If this isn't closed yet that is. Thanks, Ted

[Blammer]

updated

[crawfobj]

Any idea when this might get on the schedule?

[2ndAmendmentNut]

If I where to use this in a 357Max what would be the needed barrel twist?

[bearcove]

I heard a rumor that it might be on a run of molds that have existing tooling once NOE have the new mills running

[wlc]

If I where to use this in a 357Max what would be the needed barrel twist?

I'd probably go with a 12, 14 at the fastest. Use this link to calculate it yourself for your loads/speed.



http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

[FLYCUTTER]

Blammer, put me down for a 5 cavity, hp one cavity,& drill for probe. Thank You

[Blammer]

updated

[James.358]

Hi there Blammer

I'd like to order a 3 cavity mold (2 pointy Madonna types and 1 HP)
with 2 Blank Hollow point pins

Cheers James

[Blammer]

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[nanuk]

thanks Blammer

I have a bit of extra $$$ right now, figured I'd better get this one financed!

thanks for the GC's also.

I am really looking forward to this one

[bearcove]

Blammer change mine to one mold 2cav GC only

[Blammer]

updated

[nanuk]

I notice this one isn't on NOE's schedule at all

is that an oversight? or is this one really so far down as to be not even on the radar yet?

[Blammer]

This one and a few others all use the same tooling to make the mould, just diff sizes. I suspect when one gets run they all may get ran. :)

[nanuk]

that would be GREAT!!!!

Tthat would put the pointys at the top of the list!!!!

[MDF99]

Please add me to the list:

1 mold, 4 Cavity GC, with HP option

Thanks!

[Blammer]

updated

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Please put me down for a 4-Cavity all plain base.

[Blammer]

updated

[Blammer]

This GB will close shortly and a call for payment will go out! Yeehaw!

[hicard]

I have been waiting for this one to go to print.

[bearcove]

Me too! Now I just need to decide if I "need" a HP.

I know I want one.

[nanuk]

This GB will close shortly and a call for payment will go out! Yeehaw!


[smilie=w:[smilie=p::drinks::happy dance::2 drunk buddies::awesome::bigsmyl2:

[Blammer]

if you don't get the HP you'll wish you had. :)

[bearcove]

You're not helping!

[hicard]

Payment sent.

[Blammer]

This buy is closed!

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Payment sent.

[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

Friday is the last day! NOE will start cutting moulds. If you said you'd pay but haven't you better get to it!

If you don't see one of these next to your name * your mould will NOT get made, and you'll have to get one directly from NOE and what he keeps in inventory.

Typically he doesn't keep moulds with mix and match plain base an gas check cavities on the inventory shelf.

[bearcove]

Mail is slow cause of Tday they're coming.

[midnight]

Mailed payment to Blammer Monday. My Whelen will never forgive the post office if we miss this one. Between deer season and Thanksgiving, didn't get home til Sun night. Had a great week, all the kids and all the grandkids together in one place. I was especially thankful when one of my sons took an old man (me) duck hunting a couple of times. I think we got 11 or 12 birds. Even at age 44 he can still learn. Planted those seeds a long time ago.

Bob

[94Doug]

PMT Sent today.

Doug

[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

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[Blammer]

Mould blocks are cut, awaiting cavities, assembly and delivery

[hicard]

mouds are cut awaiting assembly and delivery Any idea when these are going to start showing up in our mail Blammer?

[Blammer]

I wish I knew, just waiting on them myself.

[Blammer]

Mould blocks are cut, awaiting cavities, assembly and delivery

[Chuditch]

Just checked my messages and found out how late I am in payment. Thanks to the site upgrade, my profile setting were changed and I did not get an email notification :cry:

Hope I can still get a payment in. PM sent as I am overseas in Australia.

[Just Duke]

Let me know if there is any extras. I'm working on a 35 Whelen project.

[bearcove]

Looks like they are coming! The 8mm are sent!

[MJR007]

Also, please put me on the extra list.

[Plinkster]

As I understand it there is not an extras list. All the extra molds are listed for sale on the NOE website and sold on a first come first served basis. I'd keep an eye on his sight as soon as word hits this post that they have shipped.

[MJR007]

Al said they are on the mill right now and may have a few over runs. They will be posted on his web page when the build is done.

[nanuk]

any updates?

[hicard]

+1 Any updates?

[Blammer]

Allegedly the 338's are done and so are the 358's too.

I "hear" that they are being assembled now. So I just have to wait for them to ship to me, then out they go!

[Plinkster]

Any news on this front? My Ruger is gettin hungry!

[Blammer]

JUST got the box in the mail today! I will look them over and try to get them out on Monday!

[Plinkster]

Great! Can we look forward to some pics as we wait?

[Blammer]

yep let me get a few.

[hicard]

This is what I have been waiting for.

[94Doug]

Photos to hold us through the weekend will be great!!

Doug

[nanuk]

I have some rudikillus plans for this one....

too many options, not enough time!
Hope I live to be 125 so I can shoot everything I'm planning... at least once!

[Blammer]

Photo time: here is the box after I've checked and labled a few. (yes that's a light saber to the right of the boxes)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/35%20Cal/DSCN8835.jpg

Me in the mess of my office
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/35%20Cal/DSCN8839.jpg

Here are two samples of a mould I test cast with.
My alloy
280gr Spitzer
260gr HP
Dimensions are good and Gator check GC's fit very nicely!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/35%20Cal/DSCN8840.jpg

[Plinkster]

Oh man those look awesome!

[Blammer]

Here's what I've been doing all day instead of boxing up your moulds. :)
My 35 Whelen has a new best friend!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/35%20Cal/DSCN8845.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/35%20Cal/DSCN8842.jpg

actually those are my dummy rounds, I water dropped my boolits I cast today so I'll have to wait a week or so till they are ready to load.

[Blammer]

maybe I can make a gummy tip for those HP's? hmmmm

[Plinkster]

Oh that looks nice. Can't wait to get em into a few of my cases and then down range, I'm hoping this big boolit helps realize my gun's potential with cast. Hopefully I can't push it past cast accuracy velocities. I guess time will tell.

[94Doug]

I think that's mine front row center!!!

Doug

[Blammer]

Shipped 1/26/13

1. Blammer 4C + HP; drill for probePAIDShipped 1/22/13:)
2. midnight 4C; drill for probePAIDShipped 1/22/13
3. bearcove 2C; drill for probePAIDShipped 1/22/13
4. hicard 4C +HP + 2 extra pins;drill for probePAIDShipped 1/26/13
5. crawfobj 4C + HPPAIDShipped 1/22/13
6. 94doug 3CPAIDShipped 1/22/13
7. doc stihl 5CPAIDShipped 1/22/13
8. chuck4570 5C + HPPAIDShipped 1/22/13
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. nanuk 1C GC + HP + extra pin plus extra GC's to CanadaPAIDPP 10/24/12Shipped 1/26/13
15. plinkster 2C + HP + 2 extra pinsPAIDShipped 1/22/13
16. leftiye 1C + HPPAIDShipped 1/22/13
17. leftiye 1C + HPPAIDShipped 1/22/13
18. flycutter 5C + HP;drill for probePAIDShipped 1/25/13
19. james.358 3C + HP + 2 extra blank pinspaidShipped 1/22/13
20.
21. 2ndamendmentnut 4C all PBPAIDShipped 1/25/13

[hicard]

I wish that the top punch wouldn't leave a ring arount the ogive of the boolits. Anyone have a solution to that problem. I guess I could take a dremel grinder to the bottom of the top punch to see if it would help.

[Blammer]

Hicard yes I had that problem. take a piece of sandpaper, fine say 200grit or finer, put it around the nose of a boolit for that top punch, then spin the top punch by hand on the sandpaper boolit, It will take that "edge" off of the Top punch that is causing the ring. 3-4 turns and done.

[hicard]

I'll try that blammer, thanks.

[nanuk]

Blammer, the pics show a W I D E nose.

were those cast with a RG?

My order was with a standard mould HP'd.... would it have the same wide nose with the HP?

if FP'd, on one like mine, will the meplat also huge like the one in the picture?

[Blammer]

nanuk, those were cast with my 4C and one cavity was HP'ed. So you're mould would cast the same. If you just fill in the HP, that is what the FP will look like.

if you want some specific dimensions on them before I ship your mould, PM me I'll get them for you. I'd hate for you to get a mould you really don't want.

[FLYCUTTER]

Blammer we need a update on the few molds that were not sent out.

[Plinkster]

They appear to be unpaid...

[nanuk]

Blammer

no, they will work just fine for what I have planned.

I was not looking for a long range target boolit

I was looking for a medium range hunter.

I think these will fill that niche just fine!

it was just they looked to have a wider nose than the spec'd pic. and I was wondering if the RG's would be different than the single HP's.

I'm getting a couple Whelens, and have a 9.3x62 to PP in... it should work just fine as it is. In fact, it may work a bit better at a reasonable speed. After all, I was looking for a MOOSE boolit in 35cal. I think I found it!

[FLYCUTTER]

check again Pinkster, they are paid.

[Plinkster]

Ah, didn't see there were two listed as paid and not shipped, my focus was elsewhere.

[hicard]

Are we still waiting on 8mm GC's ?

[Blammer]

yes still waiting on GC's. :(

[chuck4570]

Got mine in the mail today. Thanks Blammer!

[midnight]

Looks like they're arriving in Wisconsin. Got mine today. Swede remembered to drill it for the probe.

Bob

[Blammer]

GC's arrived today! I will have all moulds shipped out Saturday!

[Plinkster]

Got mine and the pot is plugged in!

[Blammer]

updated all shipped this buy is DONE!