1894 Availability ?

[yovinny]

Maybe I missed something, but thought I read here that 1894's were discontinued ?

I saw one this weekend that a local gun store, guy said they just got in a shipment of them in .357
Told me their waiting on the 44's, but expect them to hit at any time.

Guess Remmy plans on continuing production on the 94 ??

Cheers, YV

[Chihuahua Floyd]

Not sure what is going on. Some gun stores got a lettter on temp hold on production, most did not.
Rifle magazine did a story on Marlin firearms, did not mention production problems. Author was called to carpet on another forum.
I have not seen any new 1894 models in gun shops. No used ones recently either.
Since it is all run by corporations now I don't hold out much hope, bean counters and CEO's can't make good rifles. Look at Winchester in 1964.
Just my opinion.
CF

[adrians]

"Guess Remmy plans on continuing production on the 94 ??"

Remmy,,, :confused:

[Four Fingers of Death]

I think they run into significent difficulties in the new factory set up and there are delays. We still seem to be getting Marlins on the shelves at the shops here, but I haven't see an 1894 in the past 4-5 months. The stuff I have been seeing could have been distributors stock being sent out, if so they ahoufl dry up here soon. It is a market they pretty much have to themselves, I can't see them quitting production on the 1894. They are the only pistol cartridge lever guns that you can put a scope on. It would be rare to remove a product that is without competiton unless there were problems.

[Ed in North Texas]

It would be really good if Remington/Marlin would get out some information. So far there have been all sorts of stories floating around. Of those which weren't involved in the "grousing" over on Marlin Owners Forum, here's the three I've recently read (note, do not expect clarity or agreement between them - and pardon my summation, which may not be totally accurate as I'm going on memory, which gets worse with each year now):

1. Rifle Magazine article which relayed information the author was provided by a corporate source at Remington which stated production was ramping up (IIRC) with 336/1894/M7 current, limited calibers in the levers.

2. A post on this forum where the poster stated that he had cornered a Remington person at the SHOT show who stated that there is, and has not been, any production of Marlin lever guns. And the person did not expect any production of lever guns any time soon, IIRC.

3. A post, I believe on this forum also, where the poster stated a friend worked on a Remington Marlin Levergun line and there is current production of some leverguns. I'm not sure this was at the Ilion plant, but think it was.

Obviously I haven't a clue which, if any, of these is true. Numbers 1 and 3 mostly agree, but #2 totally contradicts both. I'm sure none of these people is deceiving us, they are reporting information given them by others. The problem is what is the true information, for it can't be that all, or even any two of the three, can be correct. Although, at any one point in time, each of them could be correct.

It seems reasonable to believe that if/when production resumes, it will start with the models and calibers with the greatest # of sales previously. I'd guess that will be .30-30 and (maybe) .35 Remington in the 336, .44 and .357 Magnum in the 1894 and the .45-70 1895 variants (does the Guide Gun outsell the regular 1895 by a bunch?).

Sufficiently confused yet?


Ed

[yovinny]

FWIW, I also saw the local Wally World has 336's in 30-30 in the case.
Should have asked to see one and checked the barrel proof and rifling, but did'nt think of it at the time.

My Remmy proofed 1895 has a .457 bore and shoots clover leaves :)
I gave up on cast in a micro groove 30-30 years ago, but if the new ones have a good, tight Remmy barrel, I might just have to pick one up.
But what I really want is a 1894 in 44mag. Hope they make it in soon.

Cheers, YV

[runfiverun]

my understanding is that only the pistol caliber guns have stopped production.
they couldn't get things right.
so they stopped making them,maybe they will do like ruger and revamp what they have for the better.
knowing how things usually work, they will revamp them for the bigger profit.

[markinalpine]

Remmy,,, :confused:

Yeah...just like everybody calls John Moses Browning "Brownie!"

Oh, well.
Mark :coffeecom

[adrians]

so Paul mauser would be mousey :bigsmyl2:.

[ReloaderFred]

I did in fact ask the question of a REMINGTON rep at the SHOT Show in January. He told me there was a temporary interruption in production so they could get everything into CAD systems, since they had lost all their experienced help when they moved production to the REMINGTON plant and closed the old Marlin plant. He said Marlin had done everything from drawings and blueprints prior to the sale, and that it was just an attempt by REMINGTON to modernize their production.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[LUCKYDAWG13]

my L G S has a new marlin in 44 mag $ 825. or they did last week

[truckboss]

my L G S has a new marlin in 44 mag $ 825. or they did last week

Dang,my local store has them for 619.00 for the .44 and I didn't see what they wanted for the .357.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

ya there NUTS

[runfiverun]

825.00 :shock:
i got some engraved and inlaid commemorative 94's that didn't cost that much...

[9.3X62AL]

I have a bit of a hankering for a levergun 45-70. If the 94s are going to go for $825, I can only assume the 95s will be priced as high. I'll go Winchester/Miroku and an 1886 repro, if the prices are going to be in the same ballpark. Goodness knows the "WinOku" Model 92 in 44 Mag I bought in November is a GORGEOUS example, and cost about the same as the Marlin 94 listed above--$849.

I do hope that Marlin gets their act wired tight, and soon.

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have a bit of a hankering for a levergun 45-70. If the 94s are going to go for $825, I can only assume the 95s will be priced as high. I'll go Winchester/Miroku and an 1886 repro, if the prices are going to be in the same ballpark. Goodness knows the "WinOku" Model 92 in 44 Mag I bought in November is a GORGEOUS example, and cost about the same as the Marlin 94 listed above--$849.

I do hope that Marlin gets their act wired tight, and soon.

The 1894s are a bit dearer than the standard 1895s here and the Winchester 1892s are cheaper again (not by much, but a bit cheaper). The Marlins are as rough as guts and the Winchester is as smooth as silk and well finished. The only advantage with the MAlrins is that they can take a scope sight.

[GRid.1569]

Dang,my local store has them for 619.00 for the .44 and I didn't see what they wanted for the .357.

So how would you like a 1894C (.357) for £679 (GBP) that's over 1060 USD...

[yovinny]

my L G S has a new marlin in 44 mag $ 825. or they did last week

WOW, I wouldent pay that. The 357 I saw was $529. IIRC

FWIW, With Obummer printing boatloads of dollars and their value droping, everything is going up.
When did you last go to the grocery store ? Gun stores are no different.
My trip to the gunshop this weekend showed price increases of $50-100. on everything since the last time I was there, 5 months ago.
I paid $479. for my new 1895 in Sept, Saturday they were up to $569. Thats $90. or over 20% in 5 months.

Were in a world of hurt, and it hasent even started to catch up to us yet.

[Mumblypeg]

WOW, I wouldent pay that. The 357 I saw was $529. IIRC

FWIW, With Obummer printing boatloads of dollars and their value droping, everything is going up.
When did you last go to the grocery store ? Gun stores are no different.
My trip to the gunshop this weekend showed price increases of $50-100. on everything since the last time I was there, 5 months ago.
I paid $479. for my new 1895 in Sept, Saturday they were up to $569. Thats $90. or over 20% in 5 months.

Were in a world of hurt, and it hasent even started to catch up to us yet.

You got that right!!!!

[9.3X62AL]

So how would you like a 1894C (.357) for £679 (GBP) that's over 1060 USD...

That may be the shape of things to come in the States, and sooner rather than later. Hope not, though.

[yovinny]

FWIW; Went back to Wally World last night with thoughts of getting one of the 336 30-30's I mentioned earlier.
Too late, they were completely sold out, I should have jumped on it when I saw them. Salesman told me they sold out the bunch they recieved, in just over a week.

[Four Fingers of Death]

FWIW; Went back to Wally World last night with thoughts of getting one of the 336 30-30's I mentioned earlier.
Too late, they were completely sold out, I should have jumped on it when I saw them. Salesman told me they sold out the bunch they recieved, in just over a week.

Saved you from yourself.

[Bret4207]

So how would you like a 1894C (.357) for £679 (GBP) that's over 1060 USD...

Scotland, the land of my ancestors! Hey, not to get way off track but did Scotland decide to go independent or not?

[koehlerrk]

Ungh, this makes me glad I broke down and bought my 1894C five years ago. Wanted something to have as a stepping stone for the kids, bigger than a 22, but smaller than, well, everything else I owned then. That little levergun with 38s is just the ticket for not so little kids.

[GRid.1569]

Scotland, the land of my ancestors! Hey, not to get way off track but did Scotland decide to go independent or not?

Thankfully... not yet... but I'm sure we'll get a vote on it, hopefully to put the issue to bed once and for all....

Given the Scot Nats Party are wanting to get hands on Air Gun legisation ( they've often said they should be banned) then it would be a bad thing for shooters over here.... Guess they've watch Braveheart a few times too many.....

[Bret4207]

Thx, I'm not up on the background at all. Time for some googling I suppose.