What will get me close to Lyman "Orange Magic"?

[SquirrelHollow]

I need a bullet lube that will work at rifle velocities (2,400 fps, possibly hitting 2,500 fps with .444 Marlin and .35 Whelen), and will not melt out of loaded ammunition.
I live in Utah. That means I spend a lot of time in the desert, and my ammunition can reach temperatures of 160 degrees F (or more) during the summer.

Lyman's Orange Magic seems pretty decent, and hasn't let me down yet, but I don't want to pay $5-6 per stick.

Does anyone here have any advice on a way to duplicate it?

I'm a complete newbie to lube formulation, so please provide details.

[stubshaft]

I would order some BAC from Lars. I have driven it up to 2700fps with no problems. I am not associated with them but do recommend their lube.

www.lsstuff.com/lube/

[SquirrelHollow]

I'll check it out.

Any other suggestions?

[runfiverun]

the melt temp of bees wax is @170.
white labels carnuba red has a very high melt temp, compared to most other lubes i have melted.

[DLCTEX]

You need to keep your ammo in the shade! LOL

[SquirrelHollow]

You need to keep your ammo in the shade! LOL
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41262&stc=1&d=1330025160

Find me a tree, and I'll gladly store my ammo under it. ;)
Depending on what I'm wearing, even my clothing can exceed the melting temperature of some lubes.


I ordered some Carnuba Red from White Label, for myself; as well as a sample of BAC for my father to try.
(He's too cheap to buy a heater... but always overheats his luber/sizer with a clothing iron, and/or tries forcing RCBS lube sticks through it without any heat. :confused:)

(That's actually Wyoming.)

[sundog]

I've used Orange Magic and like it, other than the price, which is why I do not use it any more..., 'ceptin' than the few sticks I have left. When it's gone, it' gone forever. Then it's one more loob/sizer converted to FWFL.

[DLCTEX]

I can run Carnuba Red in my RCBS sizer by using a hair dryer for heat.

[runfiverun]

thats too green and has too much grass for wyoming.
looks like the mesa though.

[SquirrelHollow]

thats too green and has too much grass for wyoming.
looks like the mesa though.
Last year was really wet.
That photo was taken outside Farson, looking south, just across the Dry Sandy River from the "Parting of the Ways (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.257571,+-109.227962&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=0&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A)" marker, on September 10th.

[pdawg_shooter]

+1 on the BAC. Thats the reason I dont make my own.

[runfiverun]

i know the area very,very well.
i have worked in the jonah and on the mesa quite a bit over the last 7 years.
went through farson and eden 1,000+ times.
i would stop for ice cream in farson every chance i got.

[rockrat]

I would either try Caranuba Red or Voodoo lube. the voodoo has the higher melting temp IIRC