9.5x52

[Good Cheer]

Anyone know who may have built this rifle? There is no smith identified.
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/95x52.jpg

[Good Cheer]

Obviously a war liberated piece. Uses Mauser "A" base brass.

[Good Cheer]

Has four groove rifling, .375 bore and .391 groove.
Here's what the chamber looks like.
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/chambercasting.jpg

[Mk42gunner]

It looks a lot like an 1871 Mauser type action. As to who made it, I have no idea.

Mauser wasn't the only one to make actions like this, I have a small Husqvarna No.26 in .25-20 WCF that uses the same design.

Robert

[Kraschenbirn]

A few months back, I saw (almost) the twin to your gun but it was chambered for 8.15x41R. Looked like a scaled down 1871 Mauser action with a full octagon barrel but carried no maker's marks or cartouche. The (current) owner said he'd bought it from a second-hand shop in southern Indiana.

Bill

[Good Cheer]

Thank you for the input. Mine also is with a full octagonal barrel.
Also, no maker's mark.

[skeettx]

Hello
Have you shot it yet?
Are you using .379 or .382 cast bullets like the old 38-55?
I think that you could either use the Mauser A base or the 348 win for case brass depending on which one is a better base fit.
Mike

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Hey Mike.
Haven't shot it in many years.
These are the molds I've used. The 230 grain doesn't like to stabilize.
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/375248.jpg
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/SNARGLEFLERK/molds.jpg

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I should paper patch that 230 grain and try it in the .40 muzzle loader.

[skeettx]

If you would shoot it again. I may have a good bullet that casts at .382 and is 275 grain

LBT 382 275 LFN

Mike

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Thanks Skeettx for the offer. I'm gonna stay with lighter wheel weight boolits. They let me out do a 38-40 and that's plenty with the 26" twist. Dug through the card file and found the IMR-4198 load with the NEI .388-198. Weighs 205 with wheel weights and just almost cleans up in the .391" sizer. Made a new front sight for it because the original shot way high. Shot an inch and a half just like I did in '83 when the card was filled out.
The original fixed rear sight is really, really low.
Can't help but wonder how FFg slightly compressed with some lube cards would do.
Another adventure begins!

[mdevlin53]

I have several of these old German Bolt actions and i love shooting them. Attached is my version of you rifle picked it up at an auction several years ago and have been looking for a bolt for it ever since. It might even be a twin. No makers mark but plentu of proof marks under the barrell. These are a small niche in the world of shooting but i love them.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_237434fb590d891520.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=5280)

[Haggway]

Is this an old guild gun?

[Good Cheer]

About mine I don't know.
The rifle is wonderfully proportioned for off hand shooting. American companies would do well to pay attention to what was common way back when. Very nice design.

[mdevlin53]

If you are asking about mine it has a stamp under the barrel that makes me think it is from 1986. it would be about righr for the pattern. Here is the brace of rifles i currently shoot. They are great to shoot and load for. I am not an expert but these rifles will give you hours of enjoyment both in the basement and at the range.http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_237434fb97a2f3a316.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=5314)http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_237434fb97a442c32e.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=5315)

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Droolamundo!

[nanuk]

If you are asking about mine it has a stamp under the barrel that makes me think it is from 1986. it would be about righr for the pattern.........


do you mean 1886??

[mdevlin53]

Sorry about that yes 1886. the newest of mine is 1925, sufice to say the design of these rifles is after the 1871 pattern mauser or the 1888 commision rifle. Seems because by the turn of the century the stronger mausers had surpassed these designs and the addition of magazines made the production run somewhat short. There are still quite a few of them around. One thing is clear though they look like they could have been sporterized M71s or 88s they were purpose built for the hunting and target shooting sports.

[Chicken Thief]

Boatloads of these "oddballs" were made/converted after WWI. No military calibers in civilians hands (Versailles treaty!). So 8x57 was rechambered to 8x60 (wich in a pinch could fire the 8x57 with no ill effects), many rebarreled to 8.15x46R and other civilian shooting calibers.

The German army was to contain no more than 100,000 men at any given time so they educated them all as officers. All men was encouraged to partisipate in civilian shooting clubs in order to learn simple military training and marksmanship.

[the other DWS]

they frequently predate postwar events. The German/Swiss/Austrian shooting clubs (schuetzenvereins) have a history that goes back to the late Middle ages and bows and crossbows. They progressed through archery to flintlocks and percussion rifles to early single shot cartridge arms and as bolt actions developed they were quickly adapted to target sport for the shooting clubs. There were several specific target cartridges developed that started as low power, low recoil but accurate black powder rounds (most of the shooting was done at 200 yards or less so long range and high power were not needed) As smokeless powder evolved smaller cases and bores came to the fore resulting in the 8.15x46R cartridge, the equivalent of our .32-40 and also a metric version of our .38-55.
Some of these arms also developed into precision light close range hunting rifles known as "stalking rifles"
I own and shoot a few of the "single shot" versions based on martini actions in ASSRA target matches and have acquired a few in the stalking rifle format.
The ones you guys are posting appear to be the slightly later types based on the very early bolt action designs. Most date from roughly the 1890s through the beginning of WW I. In the aftermath of the Great War a number were relined and altered to handle the 22 rf target ammunition which became popular in the "de-militarized" areas.

[Good Cheer]

9.5mm with a case capacity to the base of the neck of 56 grains, excellent balance and handling, sling swivels... yes, plenty good enough for the hunt.