32 Remington

[Harter66]

I'm posting this because there just ain't a lot of info on the 32 Remington . Web searches, well you just don't get much of anything and forget actual correct load data or acurrate drawings or details .

Mine is in a cute little model 14 Remington pump w/a spiral fluted magizine tube that ideally should allow spire point bullets,if there were any available. Seems .321 is not a real high demand dia.

Enter the Lee 323-170 plainbased for a gross dia..325 and a nominal wt of 175gr. and the .323 push through sizer. While as of yet its not a sub min gopher slayer it will deliver enough to be a 100yd game getter when an 8mm expander ball is used rather than the 32 Win expander. I'm currently out pacing the bullet data by almost 300 fps w/ the PB boolit too.

Brass well now there's an issue all its own w/its own learning curve. Its available ,sometimes and there are a few pieces here and there. I'd read that the little Rem and the Win shared load data because the Rem was just a rimless version. Well its close . The same artical suggested turning the rim off the 30-30 or 32 Win special and cutting an extractor groove . Ok ,how hard can that be? Let's say its a good thing 30-30 is common. The 32 Rem and 30-30/32 win spcl are abou as close as the 7 and 8x57 are.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_123384f33392006a0b.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=3865)

[frnkeore]

I have a Mod 14 in 32 Remington. I like the Mod 14 a lot. I have 4 of them if you include the 141.

I'm not quite understanding what your asking here. Are you looking for load data or just saying how much you like your 32 Rem?

I have one jacketed load that I use. It is a warm one, 33.0 gr RL7 with a Speer, Remington or Hornaday 170 gr bullet. Start at 31.0 gr. I'm of the opinion that the 14 is a stronger action than the rear locking lever guns but, thats as far as I would push it. i've not chronograph that load but expect it to be 2300+ in a 22" barrel.

One thing you might check on your 32 is the groove diameter, if you haven't already. They are suppose to be about .319 - .320. Mine is .323, so, my pressures might well be lower for that 33 gr load than a rifle with a .319 groove. My barrel is in excellect condition with a .312 bore diameter and no pitting. Remington 30 Rems run on the small side (I have two with .306 grooves. a 14 and a mod 30) So, I'd be very interested in your groove diameter.

I've found (in the 30 and 32) that the longer spitzer bullet is the limiting factor for using them in the magazine. The OAL becomes to long to feed up into the action. The other thing is it's very hard to get the spitzers into the loading gate. I can use the Speer 8mm simi spitzer in my 32 but, the ogive is part way into the case neck when short enough to feed.

The 14 in 32 Rem has a slight advantage over the 32 Win Spec (and 30/30 for that matter), in speed, power and especially take down.

Frank

[excess650]

I think I have some new 30 Remington brass. If its of interst to you, PM me and I'll look for it.

I had a Stevens 425 High Power in 32 Remington some years back. IIRC, it slugged around .318-.319".

[Harter66]

Actually I'm taking the ol'gal hoggin' next month.

No real question,advise and war stories cheerfully taken in however.

When I aquired it 7yr ago there was just no info availible unless you knew to read the whole intro in the loading manuals for the Win. About a yr after I picked it up there was an artical in Handloader but it omitted things.like a comparitive look at the cousin cases.

Although I have not actually slugged the bore the as cast won't chamber . My sizer finishes at .3230 which coupled w/the expander ball from the 8x57 die set has allowed me to shoot some pretty hot plainbased loads compairitively. I'm currently shooting re-formed Rem 30-30 cases w/WLR primers and fine tuning w/loads from 33.7-34.2 gr of IMR 4350 that's giving me right at 2100 fps w/the Lee boolit having had the check groove reamed out.

I have actually come to really like the whole package,although that may be influanced by an OCD like passion for forged steel and actions that just fall open and closed by gravity .

Now if someone were to dump an actual correct FL die on me I'd be happier than a pig in a puddle.

[excess650]

Someone talked me out of the Stevens 425HP, but I do have a pair of M14s and a 141, but all in .35. The 14s and 141 are classic eastern deer rifles. My 141 is a particularly good shooter and has a receiver sight on it. At least one of my 14s has a tang sight.

[Harter66]

That's a 32 Win spcl w/the rim, next to it in the picture. In case anyone was confused.

[mroliver77]

I did not realize that a 170gr could be pushed 2300+ in the 32 Rem. Thats quite a thump!

I also didn't know the shoulder was so different between the Rem and Win versions. I can see where the Rem would hold a couple more gr of powder.
J

[Harter66]

I thought it looked kind of AI'd too. Solidly 2100 w/this load . IIRC the Win data says about 2250 max w/jackets ,it also calls for 33-37 gr to get there .

Once again the soft lead monolithic solid proves its supiority over those silly copper thingys.

[TXGunNut]

Nothing to add, other than it seems a shame that this cartridge didn't make it. Seems to be an improvement over the 32 Win Special that apparently beat it out, head and shoulders above the 30-30 that crowded both of them out. Interesting.

[punk427]

It was all more so of a familiar kind of thing I think...The win 94 is probably the most common hunting rifle in the US...Been around a lot longer in both 30-30 and 32 win...and both were proven..kind of a if its not broke don't fix it kind of thing? Ive personally never seen a win 94 chambered in any of the old rem cartridges. Even the 35 rem which is still popular today I believe was never offered in the m94. Marlins are chambered in 35. Remington was just to late to compete with the 30-30 an 32 win. I think the 35 survived because its a little more intermediate between some of the Winchester cartridges over 32 cal offered in common rifles.

[2152hq]

The 8mm Nambu pistol bullet (106gr cast lead) in the 32 Remington over 5gr of Red Dot makes a nice plinker in a Remington Model 8 rifle.
It won't function the action.
A non-issue in a 14/141.
They feed perfectly in the model 8 and capturing the precious brass is easy.
I used to shoot a Model 14 in 35 Remington using 158gr LSWC and the same load. They would sometimes balk in chambering, not as smooth as the Model 8 but would go with a bit of 'help'. Maybe the rifle design and/or the flat nose of the LSWC as opposed to the RN of the little Nambu bullet.
They print easily into an 1 1/2" at 50M . They do print a bit low but one notch on the elevator seems to take care of the difference between them and the 170gr jktd reloads.

I stumbled upon a few hundred of the Nambu cast bullets sometime back and had been using them in 8mmMauser loads too.

Great rifles, very easy to load calibers.

[texassako]

I use Leverevolution and a copy of the Lyman 321317 from Accurate in mine. Open sights are not my forte and I was looking for a hunting load, but I can keep them in 1" at 50 yards with my Model 8. I have not chronoed it yet, but it is near the max FTX/Leverevolution load listed by Hodgdons for the .32 WS. Probably 2200 fps or a bit more. I pushed it even faster, but groups started to open up. I found a 31950 mold in the S&S subforum one day that makes a good low speed plinking bullet with Unique, but not faster powders for some reason. I also use a LSWC in the .35 Rem(358156), and can push it fast enough to operate the 81's action. I never understood why they went to the trouble of trying to make the 14/141 work with pointier bullets, but never loaded them that way. Especially when the 8/81 and 30 could use them. People wanted pointy bullets, especially after WWII, and these cartridges disappeared.