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Blacksmith
02-01-2012, 11:20 PM
It seems, to someone in a state where you can't carry, that many places allow people to carry but put in a lot of places you can't carry. I understand a private party excluding carry on their private property, It's their ground they make the rules. But government ground should be open to carry.

I happened to ask my brother in Texas about carrying down there and this is his reply:

If you have a CHL you can carry concealed in the Texas Capital in Austin. There are two security lines as you enter the Capital, one for CHL holders and the other for those who don't have one. CHL holders just have to show their license and are admitted. The rest go through an airport style security check. When this was first implemented there was a big surge in Texas legislators (including the anti-gun liberals) obtaining a CHL because it was easier and much quicker to enter the Capital with a CHL.

You couldn't get in our local court house with a pair of nail clippers.

Good Job Texas!

archmaker
02-01-2012, 11:39 PM
And a CHL is not considered valid photo ID for the purpose of boarding a plane per the TSA.

I had to have a quick background check and fingerprints to get it, but the DL, which is accepted, I just provided documents that I lived in Texas and my old DL.

Go figure.

Jim Flinchbaugh
02-02-2012, 02:15 AM
Here in Mt, you can carry concealed anywhere outside city limits without a permit
In city limits, you can carry concealed (with permit) anywhere except banks, bars, and government buildings. The coolest part is, you can carry open anywhere except banks bars & gov buildings.

missionary5155
02-02-2012, 05:32 AM
Good morning
Here in Arequipa I can carry anywhere but I have never been into the criminal courthouse so I am not sure if there is any kind of restriction. The officer at the door would inform me at the door. At the airport at the carry on check I would have to surrrender my revolver unloaded to the officer in a locked case and receive it back at my destination from the aircrew.
Mike in Peru

ErikO
02-02-2012, 10:30 AM
I can drive to work with a gun in my car but without a state licensed ID showing that I am also aremed security I can't carry on the train/bus...

GREENCOUNTYPETE
02-02-2012, 10:41 AM
in Wisconsin the basic rules are

No, court houses, police stations ,schools/ school grounds , prisons , jails or mental wards.
in addition no building or part of a building that the owner or lease holder has posted with 5x7 inch signs or larger at every entrance.

yes to any where else , as long as you are not drinking you may even carry into taverns
you may even carry into both the state senate , state assembly and the governors office , just not the state supreme court portion of the state capital or individual representatives offices that are posted..

when you find a store that is posted , you find a new one that would rather have your money, maybe disarm and ask for the managers info then call or write them a letter explaining this

you can carry any where open you can concealed if you have a License, however if you do not have a license you may not carry within 1000ft of a school

and without a license you must keep your gun either unloaded and cased , or in the open in your car (they are actually trying this one i the court currently Milwaukee PD picked up a lady for a holstered open gun in her car a few weeks into our new laws.

if your employer posts you can still keep your gun locked in your car , in your employers parking lot and they can do nothing about it. this way you can be armed to and from work.

each municipality makes decisions on their own city owned buildings , and public transportation

but basically other than school grounds , if you can't go there it will have a sign.

I should add that anyone in Wisconsin who posts , takes on the liability for your safety, and if they choose not to post they are immune from any liability.

to get a Wisconsin Conceal Carry License CCL , you fill out your forms your address and all info must mach your Drivers license or state issued ID , they run a back ground check on you the same one they run when you purchase a handgun from a dealer. you must have certificate of your proof of training, Honorable discharge , proof of basic training in the armed services , a Wisconsin or similar hunters safety education program , police or DOJ training , NRA basic pistol , or one of the others that meets the 4 hour requirement, or CCWP from another state. and check or money order for 50 dollars they are valid for 5 years.

it will however be interesting to see how this incident plays out , this last week we had our first case that i am aware of , of a CCL holder stopping a robbery at a Aldi's grocery , but the store had small inadequate signage saying that it was no guns allowed. so far is sounds like the man was thanked , made aware of the sign and it doesn't sound like he will be charged with trespassing.

Echo
02-02-2012, 11:36 AM
In AZ we have been able to carry openly w/no restrictions, save where the shop/store/whatever owners post a 'No Weapons' sign. And we just recently passed a law allowing CC with no license.

GRUMPA
02-02-2012, 11:52 AM
+1 ECHO, Around here N.E. AZ It's almost more common to see folk with one than without one strapped to there waist. Nobody gives it a thought around here, it's almost like someone turned the calendar back a few decades, and I rarely if ever leave my house without one. Even at the local Wallyworld it's OK to carry it in. And around here almost everyone I run into is always pleasant and will almost bend over backwards to give a person a helping hand even though they have no clue who you are.

Hamish
02-02-2012, 12:08 PM
I can carry anywhere in this state that I want to risk jail, monetary loss, and loss of ownership, here under the jackbooted heel of the Mafia Socialist thugs of Chicago.

pdawg_shooter
02-02-2012, 02:37 PM
I can carry anywhere I feel the NEED to be armed, and no, I don't have a permit.

oldgeezershooter
02-03-2012, 01:11 AM
I love the local swap meet, everyone is packing, even the women!

nicholst55
02-03-2012, 09:37 AM
I can carry anywhere in this state that I want to risk jail, monetary loss, and loss of ownership, here under the jackbooted heel of the Mafia Socialist thugs of Chicago.

I can carry anywhere in Maryland that I want to risk jail, monetary loss, and loss of ownership, here under the jackbooted heel of the Mafia Socialist thugs of Annapolis.

That's why I'm planning to move to Arizona in a month or so. 8-)

pdawg_shooter
02-03-2012, 11:49 AM
I can carry anywhere in Maryland that I want to risk jail, monetary loss, and loss of ownership, here under the jackbooted heel of the Mafia Socialist thugs of Annapolis.

That's why I'm planning to move to Arizona in a month or so. 8-)

I carry wherever and whenever I feel the NEED to carry. I have no permit or license because I do not believe the state has the authority to license or charge a person to exercise a RIGHT.

felix
02-03-2012, 12:13 PM
Agree 1000 percent!!!!! ... felix

shooter93
02-03-2012, 08:04 PM
I'm with you 1000 % pdawg. It is not and never was a states right issue. The lady from Tennessee caught in NYC didn't break the law, her RIGHT was infringed.

milsurp mike
02-03-2012, 11:34 PM
I have a saying It is like the Slogan for American Express.Dont leave home without it.Our permits are issued by the Sheriff.$30 a few questions and 2 minute NCIC check and the lady says look at the Camera.Within 10 seconds your are out the door with your new photo ID Pistol Carry permit.We have to renew yearly.Only Concealed Carry here in Alabama but thats not a problem.Mike

Harter66
02-04-2012, 12:05 AM
W/the exception of Clark co I may carry openly everywhere except, federal bldgs,school properties(acroos the street is ok),any bldg section w/metal detectors, and if posted clearly at all public entrances. There's another 1 but it escapes me. If hunting we may carry conceled also . Cocked and locked is ok too. Long guns must be unloaded ,meaning w/o a live round in the immediate firing chamber. CCW is $70 bi-annually,requalify. If you carry both revolvers and semis you have to pay twice to qualify,a recent change allows you to carry any revolver or any semi IF you are qualified w/each ,ie you may qualify w/1911 but carry a PPKS or qualify w/a Tracker that little plastic Ruger 5 shooter. Your permit specifies auto or revolver.. while you may carry open if you CCW it must be fully conceled,no out lines. All LE asks is that you let them know upon 1st contact.

GREENCOUNTYPETE
02-04-2012, 09:32 PM
We are required to tell law enforcement IF THEY ASK but are not obligated to tell them if they do not ask.

you will never see any official stats on who has a carry license in Wisconsin , It is illegal for any DOJ employee to keep any stats or for the data base to be accessed by any one else only the total number of licenses issued may be told to the public

supposedly LE can not tell from your drivers license when they pull you up in the computer if you have or do not have a CCL , but if they have your CCL they can verify it is real and valid

LAcaster
02-04-2012, 09:49 PM
I have a saying It is like the Slogan for American Express.Dont leave home without it.Our permits are issued by the Sheriff.$30 a few questions and 2 minute NCIC check and the lady says look at the Camera.Within 10 seconds your are out the door with your new photo ID Pistol Carry permit.We have to renew yearly.Only Concealed Carry here in Alabama but thats not a problem.Mike

Really it is a problem. I have a cary "License". which amounts to a tax to exercise a right. Also it is a pistol carry permit, what if you prefer a rifle? They restrict your ability to carry a wepon "pistol" in your vehicle without a permit. This is nothing more than a slap of our Bill of Rights. I do by force and to limit my loss of freedom comply but I really don't agree with this policy. We all have this RIGHT, its not granted by someone, its God given. "shall not be infringed". Not trying to rattle anybodys chain, just my view.

Houndog
02-04-2012, 10:47 PM
In Tennessee with a CCW, we can carry about anywhere but a school, a courthouse, or where a building's owner posts a no weapons sign. It's OK to carry in a park or where Alcohol is sold, as long as you are not drinking. Our legislature is about to exempt CCW licencees from ANY TBI background checks for firearm purchases. We'll still have to fill out federal paperwork, but TBI checks won't be required or done.

alleyoop
02-04-2012, 10:49 PM
For the two guys from bama check out this site for info on where and how you can carry http://alabamaopencarry.com/forum/index.php . I and several others open carry all over the state. The law is some what confusing and it can be an issue in some areas but around the Capital region it's not a problem.

BOOM BOOM
02-05-2012, 01:20 AM
HI,
In the good old days, 1967-1977 I could open carry most anywhere here in UT.
Wouldn't dare to now. Times have changed, for the worse.:Fire::Fire:

GREENCOUNTYPETE
02-05-2012, 11:17 PM
I also agree it is a right, we should be free to carry as we wish , we were pushing hard for constitutional carry , however what we got was CCL 50 dollars 13 of which is for the back ground check so 37 dollars goes to DOJ yes it is a tax.

but it is a huge leap forward for us , we have always had open carry , so long as you weren't in a school zone you could open carry with no license , you still can

but the car restriction was that you had to unload , case and secure your gun in the trunk or other location where it could not be reached from the passenger compartment of the vehicle

now without a CCL the restrictions on car carry have been made better but CLL makes it so you can carry most any way you want in a car or truck

maybe nov 1 2016 we will have constitutional carry but we needed a stepping stone to get there as did most states.

Many when they think of CCL license holders think , suburban middle age white guy , that is poor thinking , a friend who is very active at as a political organizer was in a meeting recently with some inner city Milwaukee men heavily tied in with predominately African American churches in Milwakee, the subject came up , and he was a bit surprised when they pull out their CCL's and laid them on the table. they had recently lost a friend whom they dropped off after a meeting so he could check on his store , their friend was robbed coming out of his store , they said he had complied with the robbers demands handed over his valuables , but was shot and died anyway. they are scared of the new leave no witnesses brand of criminal.

last week Milwaukee after 3 months of CCL actually more like 2 1/2 or less as it took a while to get licenses printed and such, had it's first known of robbery stopped by CCL holder , it wasn't the middle aged suburban white guy that the media was all ready to condemn for being a vigilante, no it was a young , black Muslim man who feared for the life of his wife, they had just stopped in to get a few items from the grocery for dinner, also to the medias dismay he didn't rush in guns blazing , he waited got others to move , and when the robbery started looking like it was going bad , with the robber getting angry and changing demands , and waiving his shot gun around , then he shot at the robber till the robber dropped the shot gun and fled , he hit the robber in the leg and grazed him in the head from the account of it.
he will be getting more practice , he had only had his CCL less than a month.


it was surprising to many that the very state assembly and senators that cross party lines to support our new CCL were from the most liberal Milwaukee districts , what did they say , they said that they had spoken with their constituents and this is what they wanted.

now you can see why.

milsurp mike
02-05-2012, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the Link alleyoop.I still prefer Concealed Carry over open carry.I have thought about both.I see people open carry and I prefer to Conceal my Carry Piece.To each his own I guess.Thank God we still have the right to Carry at all.Mike

WD2A7X3
02-06-2012, 10:47 AM
Here it's no carry in the post office(federal though so that's every state) cop shops and schools. Not sure about the courthouse since I've never been there. Anywhere else is fair game. The bank thing is always debated since they aren't federally owned but federally insured. All I'm gonna say is concealed means concealed.

pdawg_shooter
02-06-2012, 02:32 PM
Every time you apply for or renew a CCW license you are confirming that the state has the authority to license a RIGHT and charge you to exercise that God given and constitutionally affirmed RIGHT. What next? Paying for a license to attend the church of your choice? How about a license NOT to attend a church?

DrNick
02-06-2012, 02:48 PM
Hold on to your Rights and Freedoms Fellas! Up here in the Great White North there is virtually NO carry, concealed or open and you get charged with a crime if you point a firearm at someone, loaded or otherwise, even if they are intruders in your own home in the middle of the night....

Hey....are you guys accepting refugees? Where do I declare?

MtGun44
02-08-2012, 02:07 AM
KS Attny General just gave an opinion that cities cannot restrict open carry in public buildings
or public areas. Our County Sheriff has announced that they will not arrest people that
do it.

The local city administrators are flipping out, trying to figure out how to "STOP IT".

It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

Bill

pdawg_shooter
02-08-2012, 08:52 AM
KS Attny General just gave an opinion that cities cannot restrict open carry in public buildings
or public areas. Our County Sheriff has announced that they will not arrest people that
do it.

The local city administrators are flipping out, trying to figure out how to "STOP IT".

It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

Bill

I missed that. Link please?

MtGun44
02-08-2012, 02:05 PM
It was in the Feb. 3rd KC Star, saw it in the real paper copy, you can probably find it
with a search online.

Bill

GREENCOUNTYPETE
02-08-2012, 03:49 PM
KS Attny General just gave an opinion that cities cannot restrict open carry in public buildings
or public areas. Our County Sheriff has announced that they will not arrest people that
do it.

The local city administrators are flipping out, trying to figure out how to "STOP IT".

It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

Bill

nothing will come of it , if people were the murderous scum the city leaders seem to think every one is , they wouldn't let some silly law get in their way.
if some one was carrying for crime they weren't displaying it openly

they were hiding it the best they could and breaking as many laws as the felt like.

why can't people understand this , criminals don't care about laws or they wouldn't be criminals , what they do care about is the length of detention and probability of being caught. if you start killing people the police use lots of resources to bring you in , and you spend a long time put away
they do what is self serving , they want to continue to enjoy the outside their drugs and other vises as long as they can.

and if they are addicts then they care about getting high again

Max Brand
02-09-2012, 07:09 AM
I carry anytime I leave the house for any reason. Indiana issues a "license to carry handgun" your choice open or concealed carry, comes in 2 flavors, 4 year or lifetime and I have the latter and prefer concealed carry.

MtGun44
02-09-2012, 12:04 PM
As to the KS Attny Gen opinion; here is a link.

Basically, it says that CCW permit holders may open carry in public places, and this may
not be regulated by local government. They are going to go nuts, I would expect. Open
carry in public buildings in KS will make many antigun folks heads explode.

http://ksag.washburnlaw.edu/opinions/2011/2011-006.pdf

Bill

palmettosunshine
02-09-2012, 06:53 PM
Here is the link from the SC State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) website:
http://www.sled.sc.gov/SCStateGunLaws1.aspx?MenuID=CWP

Most businesses here don't have to proper signage, and under our law, you may ignore it if it doesn't meet the state requirements.

DK1911
02-11-2012, 12:28 AM
Utah is pretty enlightened about carry. With a CFP, you can carry anywhere but "secure" areas and federal property unless the organization has posted with the BCI and published on line. At last check, there was only the LDS church that had posted this preference.

Private property can post signs, but, I believe it is a trespass not a firearms violation if you enter.

Federal property and airports of course are covered under federal rules.

One city in Southern Utah moved a few years ago to legislate that all allowed people in the town own a gun. Thankfully, it didn't pass. We don't need to make people own a gun if they don't appreciate, respect or understand them.
The State Legislature made clear that carry was acceptible at educational institutions (University of Utah).

I believe one can carry open if the weapon is 2 actions away from firing (SA revolver, 1911 locked and loaded). I wouldn't want to do it in SLC just because I could, but, it's not uncommon to see in smaller towns and in businesses.

As I was reading these posts, I was pleasantly surprised by the other enlightened states around, then realized that the Utah CFP is recognized (reciprocally) by something like 38 other states. Nearly 3/4 of the states in America are enlightened! It's a real testiment to the responsibility, determination and honor of the people in this country.

DK1911
02-11-2012, 12:29 AM
Utah is pretty enlightened about carry. With a CFP, you can carry anywhere but "secure" areas and federal property unless the organization has posted with the BCI and published on line. At last check, there was only the LDS church that had posted this preference.

Private property can post signs, but, I believe it is a trespass not a firearms violation if you enter.

Federal property and airports of course are covered under federal rules.

One city in Southern Utah moved a few years ago to legislate that all allowed people in the town own a gun. Thankfully, it didn't pass. We don't need to make people own a gun if they don't appreciate, respect or understand them.
The State Legislature made clear that carry was acceptible at educational institutions (University of Utah).

I believe one can carry open if the weapon is 2 actions away from firing (SA revolver, 1911 locked and loaded). I wouldn't want to do it in SLC just because I could, but, it's not uncommon to see in smaller towns and in businesses.

As I was reading these posts, I was pleasantly surprised by the other enlightened states around, then realized that the Utah CFP is recognized (reciprocally) by something like 38 other states. Nearly 3/4 of the states in America are enlightened! It's a real testiment to the responsibility, determination and honor of the people in this country.

DK1911
02-11-2012, 12:43 AM
Utah is pretty enlightened about carry. With a CFP, you can carry anywhere but "secure" areas and federal property unless the organization has posted with the BCI and published on line. At last check, there was only the LDS church that had posted this preference.

Private property can post signs, but, I believe it is a trespass not a firearms violation if you enter.

Federal property and airports of course are covered under federal rules.

One city in Southern Utah moved a few years ago to legislate that all allowed people in the town own a gun. Thankfully, it didn't pass. We don't need to make people own a gun if they don't appreciate, respect or understand them.
The State Legislature made clear that carry was acceptible at educational institutions (University of Utah).

I believe one can carry open if the weapon is 2 actions away from firing (SA revolver, 1911 locked and loaded). I wouldn't want to do it in SLC just because I could, but, it's not uncommon to see in smaller towns and in businesses.

As I was reading these posts, I was pleasantly surprised by the other enlightened states around, then realized that the Utah CFP is recognized (reciprocally) by something like 38 other states. Nearly 3/4 of the states in America are enlightened! It's a real testiment to the responsibility, determination and honor of the people in this country.

a.squibload
02-11-2012, 01:39 AM
I CAN carry concealed anywhere.
I MAY carry concealed ALMOST anywhere.

CCW is $150 / 5years.
I disagree with licensing a right but it's like insurance, for the moment.
Does make me feel special, been checked out, I'm a good guy, right?

CO legislature battles back and forth about Vermont-style no-license concealed carry.
In the car concealed is OK without permit.

If visiting a school our CCW law overrides "school zone" restriction, however,
when visiting a school, weapon must be "secured in a compartment in a locked vehicle".

In a business with appropriate signage, concealed carry is a violation of the
concealed carry law, which I would interpret as a firearm violation; never heard of
anyone getting snared by it.
No mention of banks or other specific businesses.
Concealed in bar or restaurant not mentioned.
Concealed while "under the influence" is a no-no. Do you feel "under the influence"?

Open carry is OK without permit, but risky in some socialist totalitarian enclaves
(Boulder, Denver), even though state law trumps local.
Open carry is NOT OK with a CCW, in other words, if you're concealed,
you may NOT let it show. Not sure whether the permit precludes open carry
for the permit holder?

I was told by an airline representative (dubious source of legal advice) that
concealed carry is OK in DIA airport up to the search point entering the
concourse, HOWEVER there are signs at the entrances from the outside which
purport to prohibit "unauthorized" weapons.
Also I remember something about public transportation and related buildings,
but I don't ride the bus. Will have to look that up again.

Did I miss anything?