.358 Winchester

[offshore44]

Doing a little thinking on putting a .358 Winchester barrel on a Parker - Hale rifle that I have and was looking into the .358 Winchester round.

It looks like it would be pretty good for cast boolits. I have read here that some folks have been having pretty good luck with it.

I also got to thinking that single #000 buckshot may make a pretty good plinking load.

That would give quit a range of loads available...plain base, gas checked, paper patched and something to pop paper / varmints / tin cans with.

What'cha all think?

[waksupi]

I don't have to think about it, the .358 Win is probably the best cast bullet round you can use.

[MT Gianni]

Waksupi said it all.

[offshore44]

True that...

Think I could get away with the buckshot for tin can loads? I guess that they are called gallery loads, aren't they. I was also looking at some .357 / 9mm pistol molds for light boolits...

[nanuk]

I have been on the lookout for a .350/.358 barrel up here.......

so far, no luck

[bruce drake]

A 160gr Plainbase Roundnose (Lyman 358311) under 11gr of Unique is an awesome Bunny-roller.

[Ben]

Here is a fun load for the 358 Win :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=51960

[white eagle]

I have used Unique and pistol boolits from 180 gr to 200 gr
a fun and accurate load to heavy serious hunting boolits
between 200 gr and 280 gr so as you see it versatile
it seems to have all the ingredients to preform well with cast
and it does but sometime you have to work for it

[offshore44]

Thanks for all of the reply's...interesting stuff.

Sooo, here's a question for the 358 clan, What do you think is the "ideal" twist rate? This rifle, if I get to build it, will probably never see a j-word bullet. It will see a bunch of different cast though. It seems that most folks have 1 in 14 or 1 in 16" twist rates.

[waksupi]

I have a 1-12, and a 1-14. Both shoot well.

[white eagle]

I have a custom Pac-nor barrel in 1/12 on
my Model 70 compact that shoots cast real well
and Hornady 25o's in the same hole

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I don't think you can do much better than a 1:12" twist barrel and good old 368009.

[edward hogan]

Have been looking for a mold to use with a .35 Gibbs win 70 barrel I got some years ago with a switchbarrel gun. Never mounted the barrel, but would make a great combo set with 8-3/8" M27.... Have the sizing die so really considering giving it a go.

Is RCBS the only source for a new .358 rifle mold?

[starmac]

Has anybody on here ever used the m 99 in 358, if so how did you like or dislike it.

[MT Gianni]

Is RCBS the only source for a new .358 rifle mold?

The Saeco 352 is a 245 gr 358 mold that works well in a 358 Win.

[RugerFan]

The Saeco 352 is a 245 gr 358 mold that works well in a 358 Win.

Ditto. This is the most accurate boolit out of my M77 at hunting velocities.

[offshore44]

I love this place...just sayin.

Thanks for all of the input so far... Keep it coming!

[Beerd]

Has anybody on here ever used the m 99 in 358, if so how did you like or dislike it.

Seems like someone listed one in the "Swappin & Sellin" area a year or three ago. Set a record for listing to sold time. Me, I've never even touched one. Maybe someday.
..

[offshore44]

OK, another question has popped into my head.

How long a barrel would be optimum for the 358Win?

[Nobade]

Anything over 22 inches doesn't add much. Less than 20 and it starts to slow down and get loud.

Or I could say 24 inches, that's how long the one on my Rem 700 is.

[offshore44]

So. A 22" long heavy sporter barrel with a 1:12 twist then.

[white eagle]

depends on what you are looking for
my model 70 started out as a compact version
I like the handiness of it and the ease of carry
sooo..I put a 21" match grade on mine

[white eagle]

as far as molds Tom @ Accurate Molds is always adding
to his catalog and has quite an assortment of molds in that cal
some real dandies too...I have 2 or 3 myself

[PWS]

Very first trip to the range with a new .358 and I'm about ready to give up....

Out of four test loads with visually sorted, gas checked, White Label C-Red, .358", RCBS 35-200 at 18Bhn, two five shot groups averaged right at one inch at 50, one sub 3/4" and one squeeked under 1/2". !!:mrgreen:!!

Best load is 24gr IMR4227, sub MOA at 1900fps
2nd best, 24gr SR4759, 1.5MOA at 1850fps
3rd best, 40gr IMR3031, just under 2moa at 2150fps
4th best, 15gr Universal, right at 2moa at 1650fps

[waksupi]

Very first trip to the range with a new .358 and I'm about ready to give up....

Out of four test loads with visually sorted, gas checked, White Label C-Red, .358", RCBS 35-200 at 18Bhn, two five shot groups averaged right at one inch at 50, one sub 3/4" and one squeeked under 1/2". !!:mrgreen:!!

Best load is 24gr IMR4227, sub MOA at 1900fps
2nd best, 24gr SR4759, 1.5MOA at 1850fps
3rd best, 40gr IMR3031, just under 2moa at 2150fps
4th best, 15gr Universal, right at 2moa at 1650fps

Darn things just won't shoot. I don't know why people bother with them!

[NLS1]

Great thread, bump for good info!

[MT Chambers]

Nanuk: Does Ted Gaillard of Sask. make .358" barrels?

[nanuk]

Ben, I don't think so, last I read on his web site, his max size was .338

I'm thinking I'll rechamber one of my 357Mag handis, but I have a couple bolt actions that are looking for 35cal barrels.

if you keep an eye on CGN, you'll see I'm not alone... often there are WTB 35Cal barrels, and seldom any WTS.