NEI PP Design

[Good Cheer]

Anyone tried out the old NEI paper patch design with the front of the bullet a little bigger in diameter than the patching area of the body of the bullet? Results?

[powderburnerr]

there was a writeup about them way back in the early 80s. they are a fix on a non problem , .
some fellow in nome wrote them up , the artical was in an old black powder magazine published in montana. now defunct

[Lead pot]

I have a old Montana mould with this bullet. It's actually a good shooting bullet but it had a tendency to smear a little after several shot fired.
Never figured out why the very shallow grooves unless they thought it would hold the patch better.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/940Leadpot/IMG_0198.jpg

[kokomokid]

Looks like what some of the long range muzzleloader boys are useing with only three groves.

[RMulhern]

Real ugly sumbeech they are!! Almost as ugly as my 2nd grade school teacher!!

[Chill Wills]

I'm not sure that is the bullet Good Cheer was talking about.
Good Cheer, can you tell use which one you are talking about? Which mould number? I have the one John King sent me to try because he had no use for it. Turns out Neither do I.
If I can find it I will post a Pic. Odd bullet for sure.

[Good Cheer]

It's the NEI .45-410-PP #278.

[Chill Wills]

NOPE, different one.
I was thinking of the #274. Mine casts 0.443" and patches up to 0.449" With #8 Selth Cole paper.
It's only OK. Like Powder Burner said. "they are a fix on a non problem"

The mould was given to me to try by a gunsmith friend that did not want it back. I don't use it either. Might make for a OK hunting bullet.

[Chill Wills]

This is the NEI with the step up to the nose so that the paper is not larger in diameter than the nose. Odd design.

[Lead pot]

That is for a magazine feed so the patch dont snag when it is run up the loading ramp into the chamber.

[Chill Wills]

That is for a magazine feed so the patch dont snag when it is run up the loading ramp into the chamber.

Yeah, I agree. hence the crimp groove. I shot them in the 1886 you see in my avatar. Their OK.

[montana_charlie]

Just waiting for somebody to say the number.

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/45-410-pp.jpg

.450" nose and .443" in the body

[Good Cheer]

It's in a double cavity with the old .351 Win slug. Maybe I should include it tomorrow for recut in the package to NEI.