Buffalo Classic

[giz189]

I asked a similar question on this same rifle earlier, but was using a pp boolit. I have measured the bore and grove of this rifle several times. Bore equals .450 and groove equals .454. I had no trouble shooting .440 or .450 bullets patched with 9lb onionskin paper. Do you think it will lead the barrel with a .458 gg boolit? I have some loaded, just haven't got to shoot them yet. What do you guys think about the leading?

[dualsport]

Those measurements don't sound right. Did you slug the barrel? Do the .458 loads chamber ok?

[giz189]

Those measurements don't sound right. Did you slug the barrel? Do the .458 loads chamber ok? Yep they are right. Slugged chamber 4 times. got the same readings each time. Yes they chamber fine, as they should. When I measure the inside of a fired case mouth from this rifle, it measures .460.

[wgr]

Those measurements don't sound right. Did you slug the barrel? Do the .458 loads chamber ok?

never heard of one being that small. i shoot cast boolets sized to .460 in mine

[giz189]

never heard of one being that small. i shoot cast boolets sized to .460 in mine This is the first grease groove boolits I have tried. However, I can load a .460 in mine as the throat will accept a boolit this size. Only the groove dia of the barrel is that small.

[nanuk]

I wonder if it has 45 colt barrel dimensions?

[dualsport]

Ditto on the .460 in my H&R 45-70. It's not a BC. Anything smaller than .460 leads it up.

[Old Goat Keeper]

The Buffalo Classic IS chambered in 45 Long Colt and NOT 45-70. I know cause I have one.

T-o-m

[geargnasher]

Buffalo Classic, or Classic Carbine? Never heard of a BC in .45 Colt. My CC is .45 Colt with a 20-inch barrel and the fancy stock/faux-case hardened receiver finish.

Gear

[giz189]

The Buffalo Classic IS chambered in 45 Long Colt and NOT 45-70. I know cause I have one.

T-o-m Okay. I guess they stamped the caliber wrong on the barrel.

[wgr]

Okay. I guess they stamped the caliber wrong on the barrel.

the bc was chambered in 45-70 with 32in barrel, the classic carbine was chambered in 45colt with 20in barrel. and not to insult you they have stamped the wrong caliber befor

[geargnasher]

the bc was chambered in 45-70 with 32in barrel, the classic carbine was chambered in 45colt with 20in barrel. and not to insult you they have stamped the wrong caliber befor

That's what I was thinking.

Gear

[giz189]

No, it is a .45-70. I was being sarcastic. Sorry.

[Old Goat Keeper]

OOPS! Mine is a Classic Carbine in 45 Colt. Sorry guys.

T-o-m

[cajun shooter]

I owned two Buffalo Classic rifles and they both were in 45-70 with the 32" barrel with the Lyman front site.
They also make as has been posted a 45 Colt rifle but it has a 20-22 inch barrel and is not known as the Buffalo Classic.
There was one in 38-55 but it was discontinued.
They are very fine shooting rifles although they are on the light side when firing the big boys with compressed 45-70 loads with 535 grain bullets.
Mine was a tack driver with Goex Cartridge or Swiss 1 1/2 and the Saeco 745 mould bullet.

[Chicken Thief]

Have shot BP for the past 20+ yrs and as long as i have been south of 1500fps and hold plenty of lube then down/throat sizing .004-.01 is no problem, and with good groups to boot.

[Greg B.]

I have a Marlin 1895 and measured with dial calipers it slugs .457. With unsized Lee boolits that measure .456 on one side and .457 on the other I get hunting accuracy using trapdoor loads at 100 yds. This is with wheel weights or 1& 20. My other mold, using the same load, which is made by a different company and allows sizing to .459 gets 6" or 8" groups. Using the old NRA lube I get no leading with either. If you keep velocities moderate there will probably be no leading but you might have to experiment to get accuracy.

Greg B.