Is it worth lubing the nose portion of a Lyman 311299 with liquid allox?

[Dthunter]

I was thinking that the nose portion of this bore rider design would benefit from, and reduce potential for leading by lubing with liquid allox.

Doesnt This lube dry, and can be handled later without making a mess of your hands and chamber?

Is this a waste of time?

[rockrat]

Well, I have a mould for my 338wm. Shooting boolits that have a very thin coat of thinned LLA vs. plain lubed boolits, the boolits with the thinned coat of LLA shot groupls from 1/2 to 2/3rds the size of those boolits without the coating.

I will lube the boolits that way, with my 314299, once I get them cast, and test.

[Maven]

Dth, Although I've never lubed the noses of my #314299's, I have done so with a similar 205gr. Lee bore rider (8mm Mau. 6 cav.group buy mold). While I got a small amount of bore leading (near the muzzle) with the unlubed noses, a swipe of Lee Liq. Alox applied with my finger completely eliminated the problem. You may want to try your #311299's both ways, say 25 w/o "alox'ed" nosed v. 25 with. Btw, I use the Lee Liq. Alox undiluted and have never had a problem with it not drying, even in my unheated (53 deg. F) basement.

[Dthunter]

Excellent guys!
I will go forward with the test, once the weather/temp. Goes up above 5F.
My bullets require about 15lbs pressure to have the nose section slip into the bore(muzzle).
But upon taking a overall length measurement with my stoney point tool, the nose doesnt touch much of the bore. I will seat it out to slightly engrave the rifling on the first major diameter band.
That should give the bullet a straight start.

[Ben]

Coating the nose with LLA doesn't seem to do any harm at all.

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[Char-Gar]

Lubing the nose does no harm, but it also has never shown me any improvement either. Therefore, IMHO it is a waste of time.

[geargnasher]

I've done just the noses a lot, sometimes it improves things, sometimes not, but it never did hurt if you keep the lint off of them. The improvements came mostly with boolits that had bore-riding noses slightly smaller or right at bore diameter. Seemed to "shim up" the fit a bit.

Gear

[Reload3006]

how do you "Not" lube the boolit nose when tumble lubing?

[Ben]

Reload3006

It is a bit slow, but I take thinned LLA and a " Q Tip " and coat the nose AFTER the bullet is seated in the case.

[midnight]

The first cast boolits I shot in the 50BMG I pan lubed with a 2-1-1-mixture of Orange majic, Lyman Moly, & SPG. Just to be sure I painted them with thinned LLA. I got no leading at all & got 1 to 1.5 in groups. I painted the whole boolit but next time I think I will just paint the nose after seating like Ben suggests. A 1in group with the BMG is just one big hole.

Bob

[sundog]

how do you "Not" lube the boolit nose when tumble lubing?

Dip loob ala Ranch Dog.